best thunder hammer and what blessings am i looking for

[lElysiuM]

best thunder hammer and what blessings am i looking for

[H4NS]

This weapon is just mediocre with 0 unique blessings. I'd pick Crucis Mk II Thunder Hammer (heavy attack is great against hordes) with Headtaker, Momentum, Slaughterer and maybe Thrust. Any combination will be good. At least they are practical and straightforward blessings, not some bs like +X impact if already staggered.

[lElysiuM]

Originally posted by Hans ✙:

This weapon is just mediocre with 0 unique blessings. I'd pick Crucis Mk II Thunder Hammer (heavy attack is great against hordes) with Headtaker, Momentum, Slaughterer and maybe Thrust. Any combination will be good. At least they are practical and straightforward blessings, not some bs like +X impact if already staggered.

i am looking for a hammer that can two shot demonhosts

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by lElysiuM:

what blessings am i looking for

Slaughterer and Headtaker or Momentum.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by lElysiuM:

i am looking for a hammer that can two shot demonhosts

There is no weapon in this game that does 16000 damage, even on a weakspot hit.

[lElysiuM]

Originally posted by Ishan451:

Originally posted by lElysiuM:

i am looking for a hammer that can two shot demonhosts

There is no weapon in this game that does 16000 damage, even on a weakspot hit.

i saw people one or two shotting hosts on damnation with a hammer

[H4NS]

Originally posted by lElysiuM:

Originally posted by Ishan451:

There is no weapon in this game that does 16000 damage, even on a weakspot hit.

i saw people one or two shotting hosts on damnation with a hammer

Really? Thats interesting. Maybe theres some bugged blessings combos. But objectively you just cant 2 shot DH on Damnation. Can you provide a link or you just saw it in game?

[Kensei]

You are looking for Thrust first and foremost. all other blessings are optional and inferior. the one strength of the thunderhammer is the special hit to destroy monsters and 1 tap all elites sans crushers and t4 thrust allows you to do this with the least effort.

blunt weapons have garbage cleave which is a real issue that needs to get addressed soon. You will only kill 1 maybe 2 enemies per heavy swing. The rest get either very little or no damage while being thrown around.

Crucis does more dmg with special which matters most vs monstrosities. the ironhelm can reach most breakpoints for 1 taps as well on elites if properly rolled but will take 3-4 more swings on monsters. ofc with ironhelm you can hit big targets that are surrounded which is a big boon

[Invictus]

Best imo would be Crucis with carapace/unyielding as perks and Thrust4/Slaughtere4
I'm running one w Thrust4/Momentum3 and is fun and cruisey

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by lElysiuM:

saw people one or two shotting hosts on damnation with a hammer

Demonhost has 32000 HP on Damnation. You would have to have low HP, build for extra damage in your Talents, go into the fight with maximum Slaughterer and Headtacker stacks.... and land a charged hammer swing on the head, preferably with the Charge... and then you might get to 50% HP loss on the Demonhost. But that is not a 2 hit build.

That is "kill 5 horde enemies, and run around with a 60%ish lost health already, before i charge the Demonhost" build. And the 2nd swing would still depend on someone else having done damage to the Demonhost or you to bring 2 charges of your charge.

(Crucis would be the hammer to do this... as near to max Damage and First Target stat)

And i am not sure that is the metric to go by when you want a good hammer build. Momentum to make up for your lack of mobility might be the better route to take.

Edit: Forgot it has Thrust as a possible Blessing. That might help getting to that 16k damage threshold. You wouldn't need level 4 slaughterer in theory. Thrust 3 and Slaughterer 3 might be enough, provided you can guarantee that weakspot crit.

[luZk]

Confirming I've seen zealots 2 hit kill demon hosts.

[Armoth]

Originally posted by lElysiuM:

Originally posted by Ishan451:

There is no weapon in this game that does 16000 damage, even on a weakspot hit.

i saw people one or two shotting hosts on damnation with a hammer

Slaughter t4 full stacks with Thrust t4 on crucius mk2 thunder hammer is your best bet for that.

Personally I prefer ironhelm as it still deals respectable boss damage while being much more useful in hordes or when you need to go on the defence. Not to mention it's special attack doesn't stop at the first trash mob that sacrifices itself for the elite you are trying to annihilate.

[Okronar]

gently reminder that there are psykers running the feat that makes enemies take 25% more damage when Brain Bursted. May be one of the reasons

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

Originally posted by Hans ✙:

Really? Thats interesting. Maybe theres some bugged blessings combos. But objectively you just cant 2 shot DH on Damnation. Can you provide a link or you just saw it in game?

I've seen 2 shots a few times but ~3 hits is way more common. Both hammers can do it when rolled for +Unyielding% but the attack pattern on the Ironhelm makes it much easier.

The ideal situation is to have all class powers on coupled with Headtaker and Slaughterer stacks but Thrust also works since apparently it's broken and deals multiple times more damage than intended.

Bosses in general are silly with how the damage and health calculations work in this game which means that certain weapons deal way more damage than expected like a MK II Helbore being able to chunk a Beast of Nurgle for ~20-25% per charged shot to the back.

[The Gunsmith]

Originally posted by Ishan451:

Originally posted by lElysiuM:

saw people one or two shotting hosts on damnation with a hammer

Demonhost has 32000 HP on Damnation.

didnt they adjust this last patch? 250% down from 300% whatever the hell thats meant to mean in english

edit: no its worse now, 300% UP from 250% :S

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

Originally posted by The Russian:

didnt they adjust this last patch? 250% down from 300% whatever the hell thats meant to mean in english

Yes.

Rebalanced monstrosity hitpoint pools over difficulties:

Sedition: decrease to 60% from 65%
Uprising: decrease to 75% from 80%
Damnation: increase to 300% from 250%.