single player mode when?

[Daos]

so its been over 6 months, when are we going to be able to play without randoms and just with bots live vermintide 1 and 2?

[Daos]

as much as i want to play this game taking away the 1 of the only 2 things to play the game just makes it dead in a few hours. i want the devs to just release it. i mean its all there just add option play privet and make it 1 player not force 2 and more.

thanks for the info though of iron and gold

[Siphon2012]

Originally posted by Of Iron and Gold:

Originally posted by Of Iron and Gold:

There's a mod for it you can use right now. It also has additional mods you can download to do stuff like true solo (no bots) and the ability to change game mechanics like add in unused modifiers/blessings, spawn enemies, turn on god mode, all that jazz.

It has no progression though so no leveling, no brunt's, no melk's and no hadron.

Then there is no point to the mod. Single player was stated by the devs. If you go back to the very first patch/announcement of Darktide, you will see that they state there will be single player mode, created by Darktide to actually progress in leveling, brunt's, melk's and hardon's.

[Lokaror]

Originally posted by housersc:

Originally posted by Of Iron and Gold:

It has no progression though so no leveling, no brunt's, no melk's and no hadron.

Then there is no point to the mod. Single player was stated by the devs. If you go back to the very first patch/announcement of Darktide, you will see that they state there will be single player mode, created by Darktide to actually progress in leveling, brunt's, melk's and hardon's.

It has since been removed as a feature from the steam store.

[Calv]

When it is in a releasable state.
Considering the performance complaints people still have I can only imagine how bad it gets when hosting the game at the same time.

The devs can only work on so much stuff at once, and I would expect solo to be well down the list of priorities due to the simple fact that the vast majority of the player base doesn't care about that feature.

It sucks for the people that do want it, but this wasn't sold as a single player game, it wasn't advertised as a single player game, so, whilst it is great they're working on a feature that was never planned, you have to accept that it isn't gonna be the top of their list.

[sutekhbaal]

When the game is dying they will release the singleplayer mode. If they bring it out earlier, they will accelerate the death of the game, so you won't see it now.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Sop one of the other 1,000 exact same threads.

[Calv]

Originally posted by ArtificialCutie69:

Originally posted by Calv:

It sucks for the people that do want it, but this wasn't sold as a single player game, it wasn't advertised as a single player game, so, whilst it is great they're working on a feature that was never planned, you have to accept that it isn't gonna be the top of their list.

That is objectively false and a very common lie being spread to cover up Fatshark's fraudulent marketing.

The ability to play Solo was officially announced and advertised 10 days before launch, to be delivered by the end of December 2022.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1361210/announcements/detail/3467237196849592011

Originally posted by Fatshark:

We’ve been working on an option to play exclusively in Solo Mode, where you will be hosting locally your own instance with bots. Because you will be hosting the AI and other game systems locally, this will increase performance cost. However, we continue to monitor and improve the performance where we can. Solo play is in its final stages of testing as we fix the last issues that remain. We aim to release this at Launch. If not, a patch shortly after that in December.

It was in "final stages of testing" 10 days before launch. It failed to appear by the due date, and then we didn't hear anything about it until March when Fatshark admitted that the feature was actually "still in development, but not a priority".

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/community-comm-link-2nd-march-2023/76199/120

I do agree with you on the last bit though. Solo play & Private mode were never planned.

They began development of Solo play, a core feature, shortly after the CBT in October 2022. This kind of development typically takes about a year and typically wraps 1 full year before release. They tried to start and finish it 3 months before release. And this need to rush it occured because they never planned to ever include Solo nor Private mode for Darktide.

Private mode is a much easier task. A flag to tell the server to not matchmake your party slots, UI toggle to handle that flag. 3 months development is about right for the slapdash job Private mode turned out to be.

They knew that there was no way that Solo mode was going to be ready by December 2022. It was still roughly a year out. But they officially announced it 10 days before release, and used carefully selected words in their marketing to imply that they'd been working on it all along when in reality they were only 3 months into a 12 month long development task.

Fatshark are fraudsters and we got scammed.

We aim

Read that part again. Then really focus on understanding what it means.

Because if you read that as "This is going to happen, we guarantee that this game will have Solo play at launch, it is our highest priority!!". Then the problem is with you.

It is pretty clear from their statement that this wasn't a planned feature, but due to feedback during the closed beta they have started looking into it and progress so far indicates it may be ready at release or later in December.
But guess what? Development doesn't always go to plan, things go wrong, features don't always work the way you expect or other tasks are given priority,

They knew that there was no way that Solo mode was going to be ready by December 2022.

Might want to be a little less quick to call others liars if you're going to be throwing around statements like that without proof.

But they officially announced it 10 days before release, and used carefully selected words in their marketing to imply that they'd been working on it all along

You lack of reading comprehension does not equal "carefully selected words...to imply".

At no point did they say when they started working on solo mode, but considering it had never been mentioned before the closed beta, a safe assumption is that the work began after that when people requested solo play.

[SirYaripon]

single player tomorrow, confirmed

[Siphon2012]

Originally posted by Lokaror:

Originally posted by housersc:

Then there is no point to the mod. Single player was stated by the devs. If you go back to the very first patch/announcement of Darktide, you will see that they state there will be single player mode, created by Darktide to actually progress in leveling, brunt's, melk's and hardon's.

It has since been removed as a feature from the steam store.

It does not make my point false or change the evidence that they stated this game would have solo mode. It just proves that they are a bunch of cons, frauds, liars.

[Siphon2012]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by ArtificialCutie69:

That is objectively false and a very common lie being spread to cover up Fatshark's fraudulent marketing.

The ability to play Solo was officially announced and advertised 10 days before launch, to be delivered by the end of December 2022.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1361210/announcements/detail/3467237196849592011



It was in "final stages of testing" 10 days before launch. It failed to appear by the due date, and then we didn't hear anything about it until March when Fatshark admitted that the feature was actually "still in development, but not a priority".

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/community-comm-link-2nd-march-2023/76199/120

I do agree with you on the last bit though. Solo play & Private mode were never planned.

They began development of Solo play, a core feature, shortly after the CBT in October 2022. This kind of development typically takes about a year and typically wraps 1 full year before release. They tried to start and finish it 3 months before release. And this need to rush it occured because they never planned to ever include Solo nor Private mode for Darktide.

Private mode is a much easier task. A flag to tell the server to not matchmake your party slots, UI toggle to handle that flag. 3 months development is about right for the slapdash job Private mode turned out to be.

They knew that there was no way that Solo mode was going to be ready by December 2022. It was still roughly a year out. But they officially announced it 10 days before release, and used carefully selected words in their marketing to imply that they'd been working on it all along when in reality they were only 3 months into a 12 month long development task.

Fatshark are fraudsters and we got scammed.

We aim

Read that part again. Then really focus on understanding what it means.

Because if you read that as "This is going to happen, we guarantee that this game will have Solo play at launch, it is our highest priority!!". Then the problem is with you.

It is pretty clear from their statement that this wasn't a planned feature, but due to feedback during the closed beta they have started looking into it and progress so far indicates it may be ready at release or later in December.
But guess what? Development doesn't always go to plan, things go wrong, features don't always work the way you expect or other tasks are given priority,

They knew that there was no way that Solo mode was going to be ready by December 2022.

Might want to be a little less quick to call others liars if you're going to be throwing around statements like that without proof.

But they officially announced it 10 days before release, and used carefully selected words in their marketing to imply that they'd been working on it all along

You lack of reading comprehension does not equal "carefully selected words...to imply".

At no point did they say when they started working on solo mode, but considering it had never been mentioned before the closed beta, a safe assumption is that the work began after that when people requested solo play.

Oh poor Calv. You still did not listen or tell the truth. You lost this argument. They stated that there will be solo mode. They stated they are working on it and it will come at the end of December 2022. Then nothing happened. What they did was then just backtrack and try their best to cover it all up, but the proof is in the pudding. They lied and committed fraud to get more people to buy their game.

Originally posted by steamcommunity.com/games/1361210/announcements/detail/3467237196849592011:
Now we are confident in our Dedicated Servers, we would like to take the time and answer those recurring couple of questions that remain; “Can I play Darktide solo?”, “Can I play a private game with one or two of my friends?”.

The answers will be Yes, and Yes.

We’ve been working on an option to play exclusively in Solo Mode, where you will be hosting locally your own instance with bots. Because you will be hosting the AI and other game systems locally, this will increase performance cost. However, we continue to monitor and improve the performance where we can. Solo play is in its final stages of testing as we fix the last issues that remain. We aim to release this at Launch. If not, a patch shortly after that in December.

[Calv]

Originally posted by ArtificialCutie69:

As I said, the kind of development that is required to make Solo play work as they described it, localhosting, takes about 1 full year of development.

There is no way that any competent dev would not know that there was no way they were going to be able to make it in 3 months. But, they went ahead and announced that the feature was "in its final stages of testing" and marketed that it would be in by the end of December 2022.

This wasn't a, "we planned to release it, but we didn't make it" situation.

This was a, "there's no way we can make it, but let's tell everyone we will and take their money anyway" situation.

That is how Fatshark defrauded us. By lying to our faces and telling us the feature would be ready by the end of December 2022, when any competent dev would know that there was no way it was going to be ready.

All of that is completely made up.

You are literally just pulling numbers out of thin air. What are you basing your 100% certain statement that it would take a year of development to add solo play on?

What are you basing your claims that they knew they weren't going to deliver it in December and were intentionally lying on?

It's beyond hypocritical that you accuse them of lying to our faces and are doing the exact same.

[Calv]

Originally posted by housersc:

Originally posted by Calv:

Read that part again. Then really focus on understanding what it means.

Because if you read that as "This is going to happen, we guarantee that this game will have Solo play at launch, it is our highest priority!!". Then the problem is with you.

It is pretty clear from their statement that this wasn't a planned feature, but due to feedback during the closed beta they have started looking into it and progress so far indicates it may be ready at release or later in December.
But guess what? Development doesn't always go to plan, things go wrong, features don't always work the way you expect or other tasks are given priority,




Might want to be a little less quick to call others liars if you're going to be throwing around statements like that without proof.



You lack of reading comprehension does not equal "carefully selected words...to imply".

At no point did they say when they started working on solo mode, but considering it had never been mentioned before the closed beta, a safe assumption is that the work began after that when people requested solo play.

Oh poor Calv. You still did not listen or tell the truth. You lost this argument. They stated that there will be solo mode. They stated they are working on it and it will come at the end of December 2022. Then nothing happened. What they did was then just backtrack and try their best to cover it all up, but the proof is in the pudding. They lied and committed fraud to get more people to buy their game.

Originally posted by steamcommunity.com/games/1361210/announcements/detail/3467237196849592011:
Now we are confident in our Dedicated Servers, we would like to take the time and answer those recurring couple of questions that remain; “Can I play Darktide solo?”, “Can I play a private game with one or two of my friends?”.

The answers will be Yes, and Yes.

We’ve been working on an option to play exclusively in Solo Mode, where you will be hosting locally your own instance with bots. Because you will be hosting the AI and other game systems locally, this will increase performance cost. However, we continue to monitor and improve the performance where we can. Solo play is in its final stages of testing as we fix the last issues that remain. We aim to release this at Launch. If not, a patch shortly after that in December.

They didn't lie, they didn't cover anything up. Priorities changed, something they made everyone aware of.

We aim

I honestly didn't think so many people struggled with the English language, but try comprehending that bit again.

[Siphon2012]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by housersc:

Oh poor Calv. You still did not listen or tell the truth. You lost this argument. They stated that there will be solo mode. They stated they are working on it and it will come at the end of December 2022. Then nothing happened. What they did was then just backtrack and try their best to cover it all up, but the proof is in the pudding. They lied and committed fraud to get more people to buy their game.

Originally posted by steamcommunity.com/games/1361210/announcements/detail/3467237196849592011:
Now we are confident in our Dedicated Servers, we would like to take the time and answer those recurring couple of questions that remain; “Can I play Darktide solo?”, “Can I play a private game with one or two of my friends?”.

The answers will be Yes, and Yes.

We’ve been working on an option to play exclusively in Solo Mode, where you will be hosting locally your own instance with bots. Because you will be hosting the AI and other game systems locally, this will increase performance cost. However, we continue to monitor and improve the performance where we can. Solo play is in its final stages of testing as we fix the last issues that remain. We aim to release this at Launch. If not, a patch shortly after that in December.

They didn't lie, they didn't cover anything up. Priorities changed, something they made everyone aware of.

We aim

I honestly didn't think so many people struggled with the English language, but try comprehending that bit again.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. They lied. When someone says that this will have that, and the game is not even out. Then comes out and months later tells people, that has already bought the game, that their priority has changed, that is a lie. They lied to people's faces. You know scammed people for money.

[Lokaror]

They lied about the game having solo mode on launch. When i purchased the game, it had the singleplayer tag. It didnt have that feature. It now is listed as multiplayer only. Its a scam plain and simple.

[Calv]

Originally posted by housersc:

Originally posted by Calv:

They didn't lie, they didn't cover anything up. Priorities changed, something they made everyone aware of.



I honestly didn't think so many people struggled with the English language, but try comprehending that bit again.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. They lied. When someone says that this will have that, and the game is not even out. Then comes out and months later tells people, that has already bought the game, that their priority has changed, that is a lie. They lied to people's faces. You know scammed people for money.

Got it, you don't understand the definition of the word "lie".