Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

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Lore?
Is this game going strickly on it's own canon? Is there any reading material available? Any plans on adding known character NPC's from Abnett novel's to expand on the games story? Tie into, and spinning off from the Bequin novels would be interesting. Enemy's Chaos Marines & Terminators would be great.
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Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah lähetti viestin:

Except none of that happened and the ad hoc force held off the 6th until the smurfs arrived and won the day as the smurfs always do.

Everyone then moved over to the other city where the Purple Limo Boys promptly spanked the ♥♥♥♥ out of the 6th and the three supporting space marine chapters by infiltrating the admin council until the smurfs blew them up and declared martial law.

Meanwhile in the rich people spire they invited the Drukhari over for help and that went about as well as you'd expect, and Nurgle started to send actual competent forces (aka actual plague marines) since the remnants of 6th were too busy getting turned into puree by the Purple Limo Boys.

How that all sorts out will depend on Kill Team boxed sets.
Considering Matt Ward is basically the writer for Darktide this is probably going to be accurate.
Ive read somewhere that on Atome the inquisition and the territorial defence force contain the infection untill the Ultramarines arrive and finish the job
Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah lähetti viestin:
Except none of that happened

All of that happened and is happening. Play the game, listen to the voice chatter among the operatives. AzZotik summery as to what we glean from the vox transmissions we overhear on the Morning Star as well as mid mission banter is accurate.

What we don't know, thanks to the delivery, is the timeline and if its really Morrow. A large part of the "Morrow is the traiter" theory stems from the fact that Morrow was barely giving out missions in the early weeks of the game. When they added the new voice lines Morrow as mission giver became more prelevant. IIRC he even can be a mission giver for the mission where you send the off-site broadcast to the other Inquisitorial forces.

Also the amount of Morrow was present for <important event X> is pretty much just soldiers talking about how Morrow is such a bad A and not to be messed with.

But other than that its all there in the vox messages. Unlike your story, which i am reading/hearing for the first time. Where did you get that from?

Strayed lähetti viestin:
Considering Matt Ward is basically the writer for Darktide this is probably going to be accurate.

Source? Best i find, much like Dan Abnett, is that he is a creative consultant.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Ishan451; 9.6.2023 klo 3.01
Ishan451 lähetti viestin:
KingSoloMane lähetti viestin:
Is this game going strickly on it's own canon? Is there any reading material available? Any plans on adding known character NPC's from Abnett novel's to expand on the games story? Tie into, and spinning off from the Bequin novels would be interesting. Enemy's Chaos Marines & Terminators would be great.

Abnett has nothing to do with Darktide. He merely consulted and gave them some pointers. There is an interview out there about his involvement with the game and it makes it very clear just how hands off it was.

And when you played the game, you will understand that its writers room likely hasn't even seen a Warhammer 40k Novel in their lives.

So no, don't expect tie-ins.

Matthew Ward was one of the writers, Abnett was more of a lore consultant enduring the details and stuff were accurate to 40k.

https://twitter.com/thetowerofstars/status/1512480226651295744
Captain Worthy lähetti viestin:
Matthew Ward
Can we expect Kaldor Draigo jumping out of portals then? And warp dust. Lots of warp dust.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Harukage; 9.6.2023 klo 3.50
Harukage lähetti viestin:
Captain Worthy lähetti viestin:
Matthew Ward
Can we expect Kaldor Draigo jumping out of portals then? And warp dust. Lots of warp dust.

Most likely not, but it does explain some things about the way the story unfolds.

Note that we have not seen the entire story yet, it is going to grow along with the game as the new missions already showed. I'm also sure that they'll eventually add more character levels, with at least one new cinematic cutscene if the new levels end at 35 like in Vermintide 2.
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Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah lähetti viestin:
Except none of that happened

All of that happened and is happening. Play the game, listen to the voice chatter among the operatives. AzZotik summery as to what we glean from the vox transmissions we overhear on the Morning Star as well as mid mission banter is accurate.

What we don't know, thanks to the delivery, is the timeline and if its really Morrow. A large part of the "Morrow is the traiter" theory stems from the fact that Morrow was barely giving out missions in the early weeks of the game. When they added the new voice lines Morrow as mission giver became more prelevant. IIRC he even can be a mission giver for the mission where you send the off-site broadcast to the other Inquisitorial forces.

Also the amount of Morrow was present for <important event X> is pretty much just soldiers talking about how Morrow is such a bad A and not to be messed with.

But other than that its all there in the vox messages. Unlike your story, which i am reading/hearing for the first time. Where did you get that from?

Strayed lähetti viestin:
Considering Matt Ward is basically the writer for Darktide this is probably going to be accurate.

Source? Best i find, much like Dan Abnett, is that he is a creative consultant.

Ward wrote the story that dovetails into Abnett's story that dovetails into the current killteam mini campaign/box set hierarchy.

You expecting me to take any interest about what are literally now long past events in a city pacified by supersmurfs is a you problem, and current lore has quite literally moved along, never mind how hilariously bad this game's cutscenes are.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah; 9.6.2023 klo 4.17
Captain Worthy lähetti viestin:
Matthew Ward was one of the writers, Abnett was more of a lore consultant enduring the details and stuff were accurate to 40k.

https://twitter.com/thetowerofstars/status/1512480226651295744

Yeah, i was aware of that Tweet, but as you can read for yourself, he calls the postion: Creative Consultant.

That being said, the Credits in the game name him Lead Writer and mind you, i find it strange that Ward would call himself merely a consultant if and when he apparently was the lead writer.

A consultant usually is only in an advisory position and not in a leadership position.

Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah lähetti viestin:
Ward wrote the story that dovetails into Abnett's story that dovetails into the current killteam mini campaign/box set hierarchy.

Considering Abnett doesn't even get story credits in the Darktide Credits but is only listed as Principal writer for Worldbuilding and Narrative, and in interviews with Dan he makes it clear he only was passing notes as a creative consultant... i am wondering what story you are referencing.

And given that i do play Killteam, i am also wondering what campaign boxset you could be refering to. The current one is about Space Hulks. Octavius War was about Tyranids versus Orcs, Nachmund was about the Rift War. Moroch also is in the Nachmund Sector and tied into the Nachmund stuff. The Spacehulk is the Gallowdark hulk.

Meanwhile Atoma is in the Moebius Sector not part of either Octavius or Nachmund. So i am curious which mini campaign you could be referring to.

Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah lähetti viestin:
You expecting me to take any interest about what are literally now long past events in a city pacified by supersmurfs is a you problem

No, it is a "you" problem. Considering you came in here, with the claim that the summery posted by AzZotik is wrong and then proceeded to give an entirely fabricated story of the "true" events... and this is your reply when asked for a source. You try to obfuscate the fact by some vague claim that it ties into Killteam Campaigns, probably hoping that nobody here has any idea what they are or were, and then proceed to tell us that its a "done deal" long told story ended by some Space Marines.

Again... i shall ask you for your source, for a 2nd time now.

Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah lähetti viestin:
never mind how hilariously bad this game's cutscenes are.

Which is why AzZotik wasn't referencing the Cutscenes, but all the conversations and dibits of informations you get by playing the game, while waiting around on the Morning Star and throughout the mission dialogues.

Information you still seem to claim is false. So, please provide your source, when you are accusing other people of disinformation or retract/amend your claim.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Ishan451; 21.6.2023 klo 8.42
AzZotik lähetti viestin:
If you pay attention to details and conversations in missions, PA announcements and radio calls on the Mourningstar you can learn some pretty huge plot details.

Short Version: Tertium under attack > Player Characters in Prison Transport ship "Tancred Bastion get attacked by heretics breaking out their Captain > Inquisitorial Agent takes survivors to Tertium > They form convict battalion strike force > "strike force" deploys > ♥♥♥♥ going south, we sabotage heretics, repair stuff, help scan plague samples > there is a traitor among us > we must notify other agents about the traitor and Atoma status > we found traitor, he dead, no info was gathered from him, small fry > we must find out who supplies and supports heretics > Archivum Sycorax might have info, we raid it > Hallowette caught wind of Heretics buying crystals used in production of some las weaponry, we intercept and steal it for her, she shares part of it with Melk so he keeps his mouth shut, no new info but another hit dealt to heretics > We Are Here now.

The actual traitor is still on the ship and it's most likely Morrow. He's had tons of exposure to Chaos and the Warp and he has men under his direct command who Zola has noticed keep going into restricted areas. Hadron was also complaining, that Morrow's men withhold data/file incomplete reports. Player characters remark Morrow survived several encounters with Genestealers and is far older than he looks.

There is a Xenos presence in the lowest levels of Tertium, which by extension means that the lower hive city nobody is allowed to talk about was taken over.

The conspiracy goes far beyond the ship and our characters. Evidenced by the fact that the whole point of the Comms Plex mission is carried out to warn other groups of Inquisitor Grendyl's Warband, elsewhere in the galaxy, that something fishy is going on and either they are in danger or we are about to need some backup real fast. We have to send that signal directly and outside of normal channels because somebody (the traitors still on the Mourningstar) have access to and have been monitoring all comm traffic to and from the ship.

Not to say the way Darktide feeds you story is good, but to say it has none is to have eyes and ears up your ***.

to be honest this whole 'morrow is the 'real' traitor' is pure speculation/not solid enough evidence. All those things that he could be suspected off, could be anything else. + i'm certain that one mission with the complex dish on top of the archivum could easily be a mission before we the traitor is exposed in the cutscene at level 30.

Doubt Rannick is that foolish or he could kiss his promotion goodbye and become a servitor for his failure. yea yea morrow was lost in the warp but thats tough luck. + we dont even know which story is true or not because i'm getting more the impression that morrow has been in so many places that it's becoming a joke among the men/rejects.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Jubeithar; 21.6.2023 klo 11.01
There is one little problem. Morrow does not look like a genestealer hybrid of any generation at all. And if you think that he is just infected, then i can tell that infected people do not behave like that. They do not make any evil plans or create cults. Their prime drive is... procreation, for their offsprings to make cults and all the evil plans.
KingSoloMane lähetti viestin:
Is this game going strickly on it's own canon? Is there any reading material available? Any plans on adding known character NPC's from Abnett novel's to expand on the games story? Tie into, and spinning off from the Bequin novels would be interesting. Enemy's Chaos Marines & Terminators would be great.
Eisenhorn takes place around 222.M41, Darktide is set some where around 999.M41. Looking at a 700 year time gap roughly.
Harukage lähetti viestin:
There is one little problem. Morrow does not look like a genestealer hybrid of any generation at all. And if you think that he is just infected, then i can tell that infected people do not behave like that. They do not make any evil plans or create cults. Their prime drive is... procreation, for their offsprings to make cults and all the evil plans.
people also seem to forget that rejuvenation treatment exists and morrow is definitely a person who would receive it after all of his efforts
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Mr B. lähetti viestin:
Oh, and my vote goes towards the inquisitor themselves being the culprit.

yall need to learn to mystery novel better

1. 'grendyl' isnt even a real person and the actual "inquisitor grendyl" is almost certainly somebody aboard ship who is hiding behind another identity, far more likely an already familiar face than someone we haven't met yet. The custcene from the start of the game sets this up (I AM A WARRIOR) by demonstrating the only time grendyl is ever seen communicating to the convicts through a false identity. Inquisitors are incredibly powerful and influential, and don't normally have any reason to keep their identity a secret...

2. 90% chance explicator zola is the real "inquisitor grendyl". consider that saving her life is the only thing that actually explains all the preferential treatment you get afterwards. if she was really just an explicator, she would just be a low ranking inquisitorial trainee. on the other hand, if SHE was the actual "inquisitor grendyl", so much of your career path from convict to operative makes far more sense. Her comms also includes frequent orders she relays to somebody else while insisting "rannick needs this done" or "grendyl wants you to do this". Also explains why the inquisition is at Atoma in the first place, since she grew up there.

3. next most obvious 'inquisitor grendyl' is shipmistress brahams. The cutscene with the only time you hear the shipmistress' voice sounds a lot more like the inquisitor speaking than a 'rogue trader' who has been conscripted into service by order of the inquisitor.

4. morrow is an obvious red herring that everybody is SUPPOSED to think is guilty when in reality all of the weird things he is doing could be explained just as easily by his own suspicions or his orders to operate around who the real traitor is

5. smart money says rannick is the real traitor since he is the only one with enough authority to actually compromise every security layer and protocol for protection against espionage the ordo hereticus normally operates with. Consider that Rannick is the one who gives the order not to retake regions that have been lost to the heretics (like the torrent). For 'strategic reasons' supposedly. Better to 'know where the heretics are?'... or better to keep your subordinates from being wiped out?

Also, if there is a traitor aboard ship, and if Rannick is supposedly an expert in 'interrogation', why on terra would he SHOOT THE TRAITOR as part of an elaborate spectacle INSTEAD OF INTERROGATING THEM? You know, to find out who they are working with and how they got on board in the first place?

A power struggle between the inquisitor and the traitorous 2nd-in-command is a classic spy trope that would 100% explain all of the things we aren't being told, not least of which is why everyone is EVENTUALLY willing to trust the convicts (who can be safely ruled out as traitors if sabotage was happening before you board the ship at the start of the game, or if Rannick keeps trying to get them killed) yet not the other members of the ship.

6. pskyer's beloved is a greater daemon of tzeentch (ok not related but i felt like throwing that in here again)
Viimeisin muokkaaja on DLCI; 21.6.2023 klo 14.00
Vimini lähetti viestin:
Harukage lähetti viestin:
There is one little problem. Morrow does not look like a genestealer hybrid of any generation at all. And if you think that he is just infected, then i can tell that infected people do not behave like that. They do not make any evil plans or create cults. Their prime drive is... procreation, for their offsprings to make cults and all the evil plans.
people also seem to forget that rejuvenation treatment exists and morrow is definitely a person who would receive it after all of his efforts

It is far more likely Morrow is just a "Shrouded in Myth" trope mixed with the "Sergeant Rock" Trope. Everyone telling tall tales about the Badass Sergeant.

DLCI lähetti viestin:
1. grendel isnt even a real person and the actual "inquisitor grendel" is almost certainly somebody aboard ship who is hiding behind another identity, far more likely an already familiar face than someone we haven't met yet

Most likely Rannick. He is the only one that doesn't seem to be giving missions directly and thus does not serve any purpose in the retinue.

DLCI lähetti viestin:
2. 90% chance explicator zola is the real "inquisitor grendyl". consider that saving her life is the only thing that actually explains all the preferential treatment you get afterwards. if she was really just an explicator, she would just be a low ranking inquisitorial trainee

I doubt it is Zola. Especially because she basically ♥♥♥♥♥ on you as soon as you are off the Prison Barge. The first or 2nd cutscene you see is with her basically doing a 180 and questioning why you are even on board. If she really was the Inquisitor she'd already know you aren't the traitor, given that you had ample opportunity to get rid of her and the only reason you are on the ship is because she took you.

DLCI lähetti viestin:
4. smart money says rannick is the real traitor since he is the only one with enough authority to actually compromise every security layer and protocol for protection against espionage the ordo hereticus normally operates with

Smart money says its Hadron. She is accused to listening in on all communication on several occasion. She is super old, has a disdain for people... and it would be easily explainable, given her age, why she would side with the Father of Pestilence, due to her meat components rotting away... and since she is with the Inquisitor she likely does not have access of all the neat Mechanicus tech that would help her stop her aging further.

There is also that "funny" moment when her "mask slips" and she goes all power crazy.

DLCI lähetti viestin:
5. pskyer's beloved is a greater daemon of tzeentch (ok not related but i felt like throwing that in here again)

Nah. The voice line about the purple lake makes it clear that the Tzeentch demon tempting him is different from the voice of the "beloved". The Psyker says quite clearly that he can tell the voice is fake and not the real "beloved", when it tries to impersonate the Beloved.

DLCI lähetti viestin:
Also, if there is a traitor aboard ship, and if Rannick is supposedly an expert in 'interrogation', why on terra would he SHOOT THE TRAITOR as part of an elaborate spectacle INSTEAD OF INTERROGATING THEM? You know, to find out who they are working with and how they got on board in the first place?

For the purpose of the Fakeout, making the Player believe their character is being shot. The whole scene is framed to make the Player doubt if they are now wrongfully accused or not. Which is why the cutscene is so abyssal when you play an Ogryn.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Ishan451; 21.6.2023 klo 14.05
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