Hellgun

[TricksterDex]

Adding hellgun would be nice.
It might require subclass Kasrkin for the veteran

[Medicles]

Kasrkin will never be a sub-class, that i can guarantee you right now. Its way too specific. Same as a Catachan junglefighter will never be a sub-class. Storm Trooper could be one, but its arguably the same as Sharpshooter.

Its bad that they made Sharpshooter so generic, instead of making it a focused sniper class with Long-Las as weapon.

[Bovril Brigadier]

Kasrkin are Canadian exclusive.

[Sketch. ✅]

Originally posted by Strayed:

Kasrkin are Canadian exclusive.

Only in Canada they can have Kasrkin sub-class.

Damn Canadians

[PwnyHipster]

You'll get your Hellgun after I get my 2-handed force sword!

Also as Strayed said. Kasrkin is Cadian exclusive. You would get a Storm Trooper/Tempestus Scion subclass.

[FreezeZ]

Long las makes no sense in this game. Number of situations ot will be usefull is close to zero.

You can easily make storm trooper more CQB oriented class. With bonus to suppresion, nades or something.

[Booh]

The Hellgun is already in the game.
It's the weapon Scab Gunners use already.

Would be really powerful in a vet's hands.

[FilthyPeasant]

Originally posted by Bsx:

The Hellgun is already in the game.
It's the weapon Scab Gunners use already.

Would be really powerful in a vet's hands.

That's not a hellgun it's just a lasgun with a back mounted power pack so he can go pew pew indefinitely. A hellgun would wreck you in just a few shots. Hellguns generally have backpack power packs because they use so much charge in a shot. They make even Astartes go 'hang on a minute'

[Medicles]

Originally posted by FreezeZ:

Long las makes no sense in this game. Number of situations ot will be usefull is close to zero.

You can easily make storm trooper more CQB oriented class. With bonus to suppresion, nades or something.

Tell that to the MG XII, which is one of the best weapons in the game for long range encounters and is literally just a poor mans Long-Las.

[FreezeZ]

Originally posted by Medicles:

Originally posted by FreezeZ:

Long las makes no sense in this game. Number of situations ot will be usefull is close to zero.

You can easily make storm trooper more CQB oriented class. With bonus to suppresion, nades or something.

Tell that to the MG XII, which is one of the best weapons in the game for long range encounters and is literally just a poor mans Long-Las.

Thats why slow, cumbersome long las would make no sense. MGXII has decent rate of fire and high dmg so you can clear shooter blobs.

Now imagine long las. High dmg, slow rate of fire, low ammo. Useless aside from killing specials. And MGXII already does that. And for havier armour we have bolter and Hellbore. Plus any scope is just pointless as there are no places where you would need one. 90% we fight in close range and on longer firefights scope would only limit your view.

[PwnyHipster]

Originally posted by Medicles:

Originally posted by FreezeZ:

Long las makes no sense in this game. Number of situations ot will be usefull is close to zero.

You can easily make storm trooper more CQB oriented class. With bonus to suppresion, nades or something.

Tell that to the MG XII, which is the best weapon in the game for long range encounters

ftfy

[Medicles]

Originally posted by FreezeZ:

Thats why slow, cumbersome long las would make no sense. MGXII has decent rate of fire and high dmg so you can clear shooter blobs.

Now imagine long las. High dmg, slow rate of fire, low ammo. Useless aside from killing specials. And MGXII already does that. And for havier armour we have bolter and Hellbore. Plus any scope is just pointless as there are no places where you would need one. 90% we fight in close range and on longer firefights scope would only limit your view.

The emphasis is on high damage. It would be somewhat the same as comparing the longbow to the handgun in Vermintide. The Long-Las would obviously be stronger against armored enemies than the MG XII. Bolter and Plasma wouldnt matter in that regard, same as the existence of the revolver. It would be just a las weapon with another focus on threats. It could also have a higher hidden bonus on headshot damage.

[Bovril Brigadier]

Originally posted by Sketch. ✅:

Only in Canada they can have Kasrkin sub-class.

Damn Canadians

The Canadian Gate was stuck together with maple syrup!
Hilarious steam autocorrect from Cadian to Canadian but guess it works

Originally posted by FreezeZ:

Long las makes no sense in this game. Number of situations ot will be usefull is close to zero.

You can easily make storm trooper more CQB oriented class. With bonus to suppresion, nades or something.

Giving them Thunder Hammers as a hilarious nod to 3rd Edition would be funny.

[Gaan Cathal]

Originally posted by FilthyPeasentλROR:

That's not a hellgun it's just a lasgun with a back mounted power pack so he can go pew pew indefinitely. A hellgun would wreck you in just a few shots.

It's absolutely a hellgun, it looks like a hellgun, has a backpack power source like a hellgun and hits harder per shot - like a hellgun. On difficulties 4&5 (where enemies are doing comparable damage to players) they absolutely will wreck you in short order if you let them.

[PwnyHipster]

Originally posted by FilthyPeasentλROR:

Originally posted by Bsx:

The Hellgun is already in the game.
It's the weapon Scab Gunners use already.

Would be really powerful in a vet's hands.

That's not a hellgun it's just a lasgun with a back mounted power pack so he can go pew pew indefinitely.'

Dude its absolutely a hellgun

[Bovril Brigadier]

Technically the Scab Gunner uses a Volleygun not a Hellgun.
What's the difference you may ask?
People been asking Games Workshop forever.
All that's certain it causes a lot of screeching when brought up.