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Thagomizer Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:30am
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Uhhh... why is the Preacher a Communist?
I just heard the line (paraphrasing from memory) "who is the true sinner, the one who steals or the one who prevents the worker from enjoying the fruits of their labour?"

It makes no sense for him to be spouting commie lines as a preacher of the Empire. Totally out of character and feels like FS just wanted to cram some commie BS in there for no reason.
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Red_Theory Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:34am 
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Ever heard of the bible?
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Emilia Tempest Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:35am 
You do steal from the cultists, like information, ammo, and some other stuff sin several missions.
Yet they are who prevent the workers in the sector to enjoy the fruits of their labour. Because the workers cant work with cultists being around in those areas.

So, in the case of those missions, it is in character to say that. Because he steals from the "sinners" to give back to the workers which are "holy".
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DeportedFetus Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:38am 
Some of the voicelines are pretty bad such as the "please stop being mean to the ogryn uwu" comments the characters will go through when lore wise they all hate em.
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Riepah Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:39am 
Just about every class in the game comments at some point about how poor and downtrodden the masses are and how awful it is that there are nobles and rich people. I found it somewhat out of character at times.
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Calv Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:41am 
Originally posted by Riepah:
Just about every class in the game comments at some point about how poor and downtrodden the masses are and how awful it is that there are nobles and rich people. I found it somewhat out of character at times.

Yeah, really weird that the poor downtrodden prisoners, that were likely convicted by rich, nobles with little to no evidence, would be anti-rich people.
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Thagomizer Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:43am 
Originally posted by Emilia Tempest:
You do steal from the cultists, like information, ammo, and some other stuff sin several missions.
Yet they are who prevent the workers in the sector to enjoy the fruits of their labour. Because the workers cant work with cultists being around in those areas.

So, in the case of those missions, it is in character to say that. Because he steals from the "sinners" to give back to the workers which are "holy".
that is a humongous stretch
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Mephistopheles Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:44am 
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Now that you mention it, that Jesus guy was a commie too. Remember when he said "give everything you have to the poor, and follow me?" Crazy that he's still allowed in the bible.
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Red_Theory Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Riepah:
Just about every class in the game comments at some point about how poor and downtrodden the masses are and how awful it is that there are nobles and rich people. I found it somewhat out of character at times.

It's literally one of the character creation options for why you're a prisoner. Calling out the extravagance and opulence of some high ranking church member and yeah in general life really sucks for the vast majority of humans in 40k
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Thagomizer Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Mephistopheles:
Now that you mention it, that Jesus guy was a commie too. Remember when he said "give everything you have to the poor, and follow me?" Crazy that he's still allowed in the bible.
you do realise that the preacher is a preacher of the GOD EMPEROR, and not Christianity... right?
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Riepah Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by Red_Theory:
It's literally one of the character creation options for why you're a prisoner. Calling out the extravagance and opulence of some high ranking church member and yeah in general life really sucks for the vast majority of humans in 40k

And it would make sense for characters with that background to feel that way. I don't think it makes sense for literally everyone else to be in agreement about it, however.
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raμza84 Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:48am 
Maybe the options you selected when creating your character made him a communist.
Mine Preacher isn't one
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Red_Theory Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Riepah:
Originally posted by Red_Theory:
It's literally one of the character creation options for why you're a prisoner. Calling out the extravagance and opulence of some high ranking church member and yeah in general life really sucks for the vast majority of humans in 40k

And it would make sense for characters with that background to feel that way. I don't think it makes sense for literally everyone else to be in agreement about it, however.

Why not? They all come from similar backgrounds of being lowborn citizens.
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Mephistopheles Dec 29, 2022 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Thagomizer:
Originally posted by Mephistopheles:
Now that you mention it, that Jesus guy was a commie too. Remember when he said "give everything you have to the poor, and follow me?" Crazy that he's still allowed in the bible.
you do realise that the preacher is a preacher of the GOD EMPEROR, and not Christianity... right?

Yes I was making a lame joke.
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DeusEstMachina Dec 29, 2022 @ 10:13am 
Jesus wasn't a communist. He also said those who do not work should not eat.
And there is nothing wrong with the preacher lamenting the fact that fab workers slave away their whole life while the rich have wealth unimaginable even by today's standards. The Imperial Creed is not a libertarian's wet dream either.

Every man and woman have their duty to the Emperor, whether through fighting the enemies of the Imperium, or through work. And those who do honest work deserve dignity.
That said, planetary nobles are often corrupt, and don't care about the living conditions of the working population. Disliking that fact doesn't make you a commie.

In fact, if you wanna point out a faction with paralels to subversive commie revolutionaries, that would be the genestealer cults.
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Mephistopheles Dec 29, 2022 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by DeusEstMachina:
Jesus wasn't a communist. He also said those who do not work should not eat.
And there is nothing wrong with the preacher lamenting the fact that fab workers slave away their whole life while the rich have wealth unimaginable even by today's standards. The Imperial Creed is not a libertarian's wet dream either.

Every man and woman have their duty to the Emperor, whether through fighting the enemies of the Imperium, or through work. And those who do honest work deserve dignity.
That said, planetary nobles are often corrupt, and don't care about the living conditions of the working population. Disliking that fact doesn't make you a commie.

In fact, if you wanna point out a faction with paralels to subversive commie revolutionaries, that would be the genestealer cults.

That wasn't Jesus. That was Paul the former Pharisee who wrote that.
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