Best Veteran gun?

[Gman]

I am using the recon lasgun. Any better setups?

[LordAnubis]

The Kantael MG XII Infantry Lasgun is probably BIS for Veteran. It can handle practically every situation. Pair it with a powersword for horde clear and you're good to go.

[romeo]

I tried everything and the Bolter is definitly the best if you want to clean any elites and others in 3 seconds in heresy/damnation difficulty.

On my veteran since the release Im litteraly carrying every players with this weapon

If you have a good aim you can long shot as well, you can shot in auto you can do EVERYTHING you want once you are comfortable with this weapon. I wouldn't change for anything it's just op in my opinion

[Arani]

Publicado originalmente por LordAnubis:

The Kantael MG XII Infantry Lasgun is probably BIS for Veteran. It can handle practically every situation. Pair it with a powersword for horde clear and you're good to go.

This really. I'm running Kantrael XII with perks for 20% bonus against flak and carapace (didn't have a choice in that one) and I can confidently say in most runs I kill around 60-80% of all specials, elites and possibly ranged too. And probably over 50% of the hordes. The massive ammo capacity and clip size coupled with Counterfire perk lets you keep Volley Fire up almost indefinitely.

The rest of my perks are for grenadier really: Get 1 nade every 60 seconds, 5% chance to get nade when anyone kills an elite, and 8 stacks of bleed per nade. These combined with a PS with the Power Cycler blessing essentially means that with very low resource consumption I can just destroy all things ranged indefinitely, handle an entire horde on my own so long as I don't get swarmed by dogs and mutants, and the nades and PS also destroy ogryns fast enough.

I've tried all the other weapons but they just suck by comparison. Recon could be good if I could find one with both high dmg, ammo and the Infernus blessing, but RNG hasn't even given me 2/3 of those yet. I hate that while I love the psyker and play her just because I like the gameplay so much, the vet is just so much better in everything. She kills horde faster than a zealot, specials and ranged faster than anything else, with camo has extreme survivability, and can pull out amazing clutch saves even when everyone else is down.

[Trashbag]

If we're talking "best guns," most people agree that the Kantrael (tan, I believe) is the best for ammo efficiency and reliable damage - especially if you can hit heads. Boltgun is also meta as ♥♥♥♥ because the dps is insane and has almost full penetration from what I can tell. But they're both a little inflexible. You might want to swap to a green or blue kantrael variant, since the fire rate makes you a little better at dealing with hordes of shooters, and the Boltgun's long reload and deploy time - on top of its limited ammo - will punish you if you aren't thinking ahead and being economical.

Beyond that, I'd say none of his other guns are too far behind. Headhunter or maybe the Heavy Laspistol is probably the worst and it's still plenty usable.

[Imnuktam]

Publicado originalmente por Anaryl - Alexxander I King of Au:

Publicado originalmente por Imnuktam:

Perhaps we are talking about different weapons? Agripinaa Infantry Autogun mk I and Gaia mk VIII are the ones I am using currently, and they do everything I want from a sharpshooter. The only gun I can get higher dps with and drop enemies faster is the boltgun.

Those are far more accurate from range than the braced auto's I have tried which seemed horrible for picking off long range targets. They hit right where they should first 3-5 or so shots you just need to burst a bit instead of full auto and let bloom reset if target is at long range and still alive.

I have had multiple games playing with other sharpshooters that ask me what I am using or give me a hard time for hogging/dropping all the specials before they get them using those two guns.

It is a good weapon to start in the chest and let the recoil walk up to head shots. Once you get to 5th or so shot in salvo it is starting to walk side to side on you and you just need to reset bloom.

Bolter doesn't have good DPS, at least not realDPS. You're not counting the whole firecycle - practically every other weapon has better DPS than a bolter. The bolters very, very long reload cycle absolutely tanks its Damage per Second (for the uninitiated).

What the bolter has is very high alpha with AoE but with a very periodic fire cycle (which is round>round...>round> reload> round (and so forth) then averaging the damage across the cycle. Auto weapons, even las weapons have better DPS due to spending less time in the reload part of the cycle.

I think there's a miscommunication here also, Agripinaa and Graia VIII are not burst fire or braced. They are ADS automatic weapons - but your previous commentator is I believe referring (mistakenly) t o the Vraks -which is a burst fire autogun - and truly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in my opinion.

It can be a little confusing but different marks and models have different behaviours - e.g. burst fire versus precise, versatile versus high damage.

Alpha is a better way to say it. Going through big health enemies that boltgun can get up over 2500 dps, nothing else comes close. With the right build....

20% reload speed if not empty and 30% reload speed after killing an elite drops that reload down to around / under 3sec. With good timing you can fire 14 rounds, insta reload then fire 14 and 3 sec reload, 14 rounds insta and so on.

Yeah i felt we were discussing dif guns as well. Big fan of the full auto infantry auto guns. Close to boltgun dps with quicker reload and better range.

[JustSmile]

Publicado originalmente por Imnuktam:

20% reload speed if not empty and 30% reload speed after killing an elite drops that reload down to around / under 3sec. With good timing you can fire 14 rounds, insta reload then fire 14 and 3 sec reload, 14 rounds insta and so on.

Add the reload lvl 30 feat and you can two full mags of murder before needing to reload - and odds are you can take your time after that. That much death downstream will wipe a whole pack of elites on damnation.

[Trashbag]

If we're talking off-meta? I'm a big fan of the Braced Autogun and the Combat Shotgun. I think they might actually be a bit of a sleeper power pair.

A lot of people don't realize the shotgun fires slugs when ADS, making it a really flexible weapon. The Braced autogun has garbage spread, but if you can work around that the dps is TERRIFYING.

[Dragon]

the Atrigipinia (or w/e) braced autogun. You lose ranged precision for some of the highest dps in the game, knockdown on specials, with a respectable enough ammo pool that you dont have to just eat all the ammo like with a few of the other autoguns.

Autoguns are in a bad spot not because they arent fun to use, but because their ammo efficiency is *terrible* at high difficulty.

[Forblaze]

Playing mostly in pubs, I feel like the answer is an easy bolter. I all too frequently end up in situations where just nobody wants to/is able to deal with ogryns, and the bolter is just the best at dealing with them while still remaining versatile enough to deal with most other threats.

[Imnuktam]

Publicado originalmente por JustSmile:

Publicado originalmente por Imnuktam:

20% reload speed if not empty and 30% reload speed after killing an elite drops that reload down to around / under 3sec. With good timing you can fire 14 rounds, insta reload then fire 14 and 3 sec reload, 14 rounds insta and so on.

Add the reload lvl 30 feat and you can two full mags of murder before needing to reload - and odds are you can take your time after that. That much death downstream will wipe a whole pack of elites on damnation.

Cant remember name of that feat either lol. That is what I was talking about when I say insta reload though. Basically you fire the clip, hit that and fire that clip then if you need to reload its just 3sec if you killed any elites and saved one round. Then repeat if necessary.

[Bloodwest]

bolter is the best by a long shot. highest damage output and it doesn't fall off mid-long range (where vet is supposed to shine). auto hip-fire, semi-auto aimed. not too efficient against fodder but you can still mitigate that thnx to insane penetration this weap has or just switch to melee.
other options don't come near bolter with so apparent weaknesses and not nearly impressive strengths.

[JustSmile]

Publicado originalmente por Bloodwest:

bolter is the best by a long shot. highest damage output and it doesn't fall off mid-long range (where vet is supposed to shine). auto hip-fire, semi-auto aimed. not too efficient against fodder but you can still mitigate that thnx to insane penetration this weap has or just switch to melee.
other options don't come near bolter with so apparent weaknesses and not nearly impressive strengths.

Na, you'll change your mind once you go up from malice. The bolter is a niche weapon, not a mainstay. Would never take it as the only vet on the team.

[Snugcubus]

my vote is for bolter because kaboom

[Teehetki]

I got this:
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Not best, but i can handle heretic mobs easily.

[Narky]

Best weapon for the Sharpshooter?

Kantrael MG XII Infantry Lasgun for me, hand's down. A lot of weapons are down to preference, despite "meta". But the XII does everything you need as the Sharpshooter.