Why do Psykers have the hardest penances in the game?

[PwnyHipster]

Like the other classes penances are easy mode compared to what we have to go through with Pick n Mix, Cliffhanger, Going Out With a Bang, and Malleus Monstronum.

[AzZotik]

good, let the mutants suffer for being nerdy space wizards.

[PwnyHipster]

Originally posted by AzZotik:

good, let the mutants suffer for being nerdy space wizards.

Filth Encrusted Veteran Main hands typed this. You wouldn't be so tough without your power sword.

[Qau'lthir]

I finished all of the Psyker Penances in the pre-order beta, before the nerfs made them easier.

If you're looking for instant gratification from the Penances then I'd suggest adjusting your mindset and just accept that some of them are up to RNG and your own skill.

[Kurtino]

Are you serious? Your best looking armour penance is to just spam brain burst on a boss while your team doesn't fight it. Cliffhanger used to be knock down 20 mobs but was nerfed to 7, and the only one actually hard is pick n mix, which requires a premade setup where you pre brain burst a pack of ragers or shotgunners to do it, but it's doable, especially with a shield ogryn.

Definitely not the hardest, comparable to the Ogryns and maybe the Zealots. The Veteran's are easy, yes, but they're uniquely easier/more OP than everyone else.

[rases]

Malleus Monstrorum is really easy since it counts every monstrosity.
Just ask a shield ogryn to join you in a game, have him tank a daemonhost while the other 2 randos clear the zone. At least you don't have to ragequit anymore if one accidentally shoots her. Unless they *accidentally* discharge a full bolter's mag into her back.

Pick n Mix is annoying since it's RNG. Exactly as annoying as other RNG penances that requires you to communicate with your team.
Cliffhanger requires specific maps and specific places. It will be easy once we get closed parties.
Going Out with a bang is the only one that i really dislike. I think that you need to ask on discord for help as it's not doable outside a close group, as the damage is really low.

[PwnyHipster]

Originally posted by Kurtino:

Are you serious? Your best looking armour penance is to just spam brain burst on a boss while your team doesn't fight it..

LMAO try doing it in solo queue! See how that works out for you

[PwnyHipster]

Originally posted by Qau'lthir:

I finished all of the Psyker Penances in the pre-order beta, before the nerfs made them easier.

If you're looking for instant gratification from the Penances then I'd suggest adjusting your mindset and just accept that some of them are up to RNG and your own skill.

Oh please I've completed every Psyker penance in the game before the adjustments aside from Pick n Mix. ALL in Solo Queue relying on randoms, and bots.

[Kurtino]

Originally posted by PoniBeatnik:

Originally posted by Kurtino:

Are you serious? Your best looking armour penance is to just spam brain burst on a boss while your team doesn't fight it..

LMAO try doing it in solo queue! See how that works out for you

Try doing any of the non-veteran penances in solo queue, did you even read them before you determined you have it the hardest?

Ogryn you have to charge over 100 enemies, which is borderline impossible unless you communicate with a full team that they must stand in a long corridor, not kill a single enemy, wait for a full horde to gather (because they spawn only just over 100 enemies typically). Even if your entire team died you'd have to slow kite and walk back as a shield ogryn and have lucky enough RNG that there aren't any specialists that either stun you, or use fire that will friendly fire their own enemies.

And that's just a malice challenge. Heresy it's kite 6 ogryns and charge them all at once, again, good luck solo. Zealot completing a match less than 25% health in 20 minutes, good luck. Basically, every malice or higher penance challenge requires a communicating team for every character except for Veteran. At least with Psyker's challenge it's so brain dead easy that you can jump into a match and type in chat/ask on voice chat, "hey guys, can you let me solo the boss?". You could even just get a shield ogryn to hold a daemon host so you can do it without thinking.

[Monarch]

Actually Ogryn does now.
Psyker's Heresy penance is very easily do-able with a coordinated team, which you can get one through the official discord LFG channel.

But even with a dedicated group, Ogryn's Heresy penance now requires a bit more than just a pre-made / communication. Since for some reason some 'genius' at FatShark decided to bump 4 enemy Ogryn bullrush to 6, meaning you'll have to string along 4~5 enemy Ogryn as you go through the map to hope to achieve it.

No other penance is as painful as this one yet.

[Kurtino]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Actually Ogryn does now.
Psyker's Heresy penance is very easily do-able with a coordinated team, which you can get one through the official discord LFG channel.

But even with a dedicated group, Ogryn's Heresy penance now requires a bit more than just a pre-made / communication. Since for some reason some 'genius' at FatShark decided to bump 4 enemy Ogryn bullrush to 6, meaning you'll have to string along 4~5 enemy Ogryn as you go through the map to hope to achieve it.

No other penance is as painful as this one yet.

It took me 4 hours of attempting this with a full pre-made penance group. Ironically it was a full group of 3 psykers and, while waiting to try and help me get this penance, they all finished their brain burst a monstrosity challenge and 1 of them managed to finish pick n mix as well as the blow up on 3 enemies one. Everyone I've tried this with post-patch has said unanimously that it's the hardest penance and the most annoying. The best way to do it is to re-roll the start of a damnation level and hope that you get 2 large pack of Ogryns and none of them are reapers.

[PwnyHipster]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Actually Ogryn does now.
Psyker's Heresy penance is very easily do-able with a coordinated team, which you can get one through the official discord LFG channel.

But even with a dedicated group, Ogryn's Heresy penance now requires a bit more than just a pre-made / communication. Since for some reason some 'genius' at FatShark decided to bump 4 enemy Ogryn bullrush to 6, meaning you'll have to string along 4~5 enemy Ogryn as you go through the map to hope to achieve it.

No other penance is as painful as this one yet.

Fair

[Monarch]

Originally posted by Kurtino:

The best way to do it is to re-roll the start of a damnation level and hope that you get 2 large pack of Ogryns and none of them are reapers.

I might as well invest in buying lottery tickets, will have a higher win chance than getting 2 packs of Ogryn without Reapers.

At this point I'm just hoping / waiting for FatShark to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tweak it to something reasonable again. Honestly would love to have a sit down with the person at FatShark who did this, and ask them face to face if they didn't get hugged enough as a child.

[PwnyHipster]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Originally posted by Kurtino:

The best way to do it is to re-roll the start of a damnation level and hope that you get 2 large pack of Ogryns and none of them are reapers.

I might as well invest in buying lottery tickets, will have a higher win chance than getting 2 packs of Ogryn without Reapers.

At this point I'm just hoping / waiting for FatShark to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tweak it to something reasonable again. Honestly would love to have a sit down with the person at FatShark who did this, and ask them face to face if they didn't get hugged enough as a child.

Hopefully fatshark finally LEARNS something and realize that penances that depend on RNG are a bad idea.

[Kurtino]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Originally posted by Kurtino:

The best way to do it is to re-roll the start of a damnation level and hope that you get 2 large pack of Ogryns and none of them are reapers.

I might as well invest in buying lottery tickets, will have a higher win chance than getting 2 packs of Ogryn without Reapers.

At this point I'm just hoping / waiting for FatShark to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tweak it to something reasonable again. Honestly would love to have a sit down with the person at FatShark who did this, and ask them face to face if they didn't get hugged enough as a child.

The funny thing is I held off from doing this challenge because 4 was completely reasonable. It was tough, but with lucky enough spawns you can get a pack of 4 Ogryns spawn at once and then it's just the waiting game of RNG, or even a pack of 3 + 1 stray. 6 though you cannot get naturally and I wasted most of a day trying to. I think I know why it was made harder, because the amount of people who had the chest piece penance vs the legs was horribly imbalanced as the legs challenge used to be nearly impossible with extreme RNG. Luckily they nerfed that down from 70 meters to 30 (who the hell thought of these numbers). Sadly they misfired in overtuning this one.

It only took me 3 damnation attempts to get it though after hours of trying it on Heresy, so I either got extremely lucky with damnation, or damnation seemed to have higher spawn chances for Ogryns. It was also that desert map if that helps, but I noticed the sewer map also seemed to spawn Ogryns more often.

[sergantuss]

Originally posted by Kurtino:

Are you serious? Your best looking armour penance is to just spam brain burst on a boss while your team doesn't fight it. Cliffhanger used to be knock down 20 mobs but was nerfed to 7, and the only one actually hard is pick n mix, which requires a premade setup where you pre brain burst a pack of ragers or shotgunners to do it, but it's doable, especially with a shield ogryn.

Definitely not the hardest, comparable to the Ogryns and maybe the Zealots. The Veteran's are easy, yes, but they're uniquely easier/more OP than everyone else.

psyker penances is the only penances that you have 0 chance to do with randoms.

he have the only penances that was created to play totaly VS your team and ♥♥♥♥ them as much as you can.

kill boss solo? ok...its mean that everybody need to play only around you.
blowing yourself with elites - here we go and pubs is slowly full of psykers that constantly killing themself
kill 5 uniq elites in 12 seconds? - well. just outspeed your team and prey for a lucky rng with all this no brain vets that need 1-2 bullets to kill elites.

the only penance that can be close to the bs that he have is Zealot one when you need to speedrun with low HP.

all other ones is clearly can be done with randoms without forcing them to play only around you.

the guy(or girl) who created this ♥♥♥♥ just hate humanity so much.

the fact that someone there told *YES* to this penances is clearly show that this is just another part of the game that was never tested.

veteran penances is hard. but this is how it should be.
its rly hard and anoying to do. but its possible.

same with ogryns.

psyker is just a big pile of ♥♥♥♥ that devs throw on the players heads and forcing players to throw this ♥♥♥♥ on the team as well.