What does "bleed" do?

[Oedipus's Stepdad]

Like the veteran's grenade ability that stacks 8 bleed; I don't seem to notice any difference when it doesn't have that ability. The enemies seem to be bleeding everywhere, but they still stay up the same time.

[CH13F]

damage over time. enemies slowly lose hp. it something useful against elites bosses and beasts. not trash mobs.

[Catteus Of Mars]

it has some utility for other classes with you like increased crit or smthing....

[Hex]

The meat grinder is there for this exact reason my guy. USE IT.

[Oedipus's Stepdad]

Originally posted by CH13F:

damage over time. enemies slowly lose hp. it something useful against elites bosses and beasts. not trash mobs.

So the 8 stack bleed bonus perk really makes the veteran's grenade more of a anti-boss weapon than an horde clearer?

[Pickle Bath]

Damage over time. Try it out in the meat grinder to specifically see the amount. It's not insane

[Oedipus's Stepdad]

Originally posted by Hex:

The meat grinder is there for this exact reason my guy. USE IT.

Meat grinder doesn't have hordes my dude

[Kalgert]

Originally posted by Hex:

The meat grinder is there for this exact reason my guy. USE IT.

Just to note on this: I went to the Meat Grinder to test my knife out with a bleed perk, but uhh... That place isn't registering the perk. So can't test it.

[CH13F]

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

Originally posted by CH13F:

damage over time. enemies slowly lose hp. it something useful against elites bosses and beasts. not trash mobs.

So the 8 stack bleed bonus perk really makes the veteran's grenade more of a anti-boss weapon than an horde clearer?

well ofc we d not use nades for non-trash mobs. its trash clear tool but yes, it has ability to be more than that. an option, up to you.

[Oedipus's Stepdad]

Originally posted by CH13F:

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

So the 8 stack bleed bonus perk really makes the veteran's grenade more of a anti-boss weapon than an horde clearer?

well ofc we d not use nades for non-trash mobs. its ofc trash clear tool but yes, it has ability to be more than that.

I meant to say that it actually damages bosses over-time instead of just stuns them briefly

[Hex]

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

Originally posted by Hex:

The meat grinder is there for this exact reason my guy. USE IT.

Meat grinder doesn't have hordes my dude

They die to the impact regardless so kinda doesn't matter at all?

[Hex]

Originally posted by Kalgert:

Originally posted by Hex:

The meat grinder is there for this exact reason my guy. USE IT.

Just to note on this: I went to the Meat Grinder to test my knife out with a bleed perk, but uhh... That place isn't registering the perk. So can't test it.

Or maybe the perk doesn't work?

[Kalgert]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by Kalgert:

Just to note on this: I went to the Meat Grinder to test my knife out with a bleed perk, but uhh... That place isn't registering the perk. So can't test it.

Or maybe the perk doesn't work?

I don't think so. I've seen enemies bleed all over the place in the regular missions, even had enemies fall over dead. I think it's specific to the Grinder.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Kalgert:

Originally posted by Hex:

Or maybe the perk doesn't work?

I don't think so. I've seen enemies bleed all over the place in the regular missions, even had enemies fall over dead. I think it's specific to the Grinder.

I've never had anything not work in grinder so kinda odd.

[Hunkthebear]

While I can't say for Veteran, my Ogryn's bleed shows in Meat Grinder. Damage seems low (about 6-8 damage per sec per stack of bleed) but the full effect is around 12 ticks to me that lowers damage as it reaches its end. Useful on Armored enemies like Maulers if you lack AP capacity, but chip damage will still take some time to kill.

Think of Bleed as bonus side damage to help with Elites and Bosses, Trash dies to fast for it to matter.

[Dou B Jin]

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

Like the veteran's grenade ability that stacks 8 bleed; I don't seem to notice any difference when it doesn't have that ability. The enemies seem to be bleeding everywhere, but they still stay up the same time.

Damage over time ability that stacks on hit.

So lets say each hit inflicts one stack of bleed then the first hit will be

30 damage per second for 8 ticks

hit it again and now its

60 second per second for 8 ticks, if it was only 4 ticks left then its refreshes with the higher damage.

It will eventually reach a cap which different based on the enemy type. The more HP a mob has the more damage they tend to take as a result of bleeding. This also It scales partly with your weapon meaning low damage weapon will have a lower bleeding cap. This is why they are particularly good on boss and I've seen zealot kill daemonhost with their bleed knife. The hit itself was only 50 damage but the bleed was like 400 per second.

I notice carapace armor like the crusher tend to have significantly reduced damage while bulwalk and reaper takes huge damage per second from bleed.

You can try it out by buying a knife with a bleed effect and hit mobs in the meat grinder.