What is the point of zealot?

[NPC]

I dont see how they are useful

[Replicant Six]

Zealots are good at finding an opening in a clump of ranged enemies and rushing in forcing them to go melee which makes any group of ranged enemies basically harmless.

[Cacomistle]

Its the best at closing into melee since its got the dash, good dodges, and some nice toughness damage resist. Then once ranged enemies stop shooting and pull their melee weapons out, zealot and their team are much safer.

And then if you run crit build Zealot's purpose is to be nearly immortal. If you can't die, you tend to win runs.

[NPC]

Publicado originalmente por ScubaSteve:

They are a front line soldier. They can tank INCREDIBLY well with over 90% toughness damage reduction and a class ability that restores their toughness. As a front liner they can also turn some of the enemies to expose weakspots to the rest of the team.

They also kill stuff perfectly fine. With an Axe or Thunder Hammer, you can absolutely delete specials within melee range.

but with so much ranged doesnt he become outclassed by other classes?

[Knavenformed]

Publicado originalmente por ÚwÚ:

but with so much ranged doesnt he become outclassed by other classes?

No, the other classes have synergy with him.
You can kit out a Veteran with long range threat deletion, and the Zealot gives synergy by horde clearing and deleting specials in close combat and gives Psykers free room to brain burst or obliterate, Ogryn opens enemies up for Thunder Hammer and Evicerator use.

[Cacomistle]

Publicado originalmente por ÚwÚ:

Publicado originalmente por ScubaSteve:

They are a front line soldier. They can tank INCREDIBLY well with over 90% toughness damage reduction and a class ability that restores their toughness. As a front liner they can also turn some of the enemies to expose weakspots to the rest of the team.

They also kill stuff perfectly fine. With an Axe or Thunder Hammer, you can absolutely delete specials within melee range.

but with so much ranged doesnt he become outclassed by other classes?

No, because you just melee them. Ranged enemies are tough to deal with when you don't have an ability to get in and they're aggrod from across the map by a trigger happy teammate (who isn't good enough to just kill them all).

When you have strong ways to regenerate toughness with very high damage resist and gap closers to get yourself in melee where you're safe, and no one is shooting the ranged enemies and causing them to turn around but not actually killing them, its not nearly as tough.

[Ancient Rylanor]

Zealot make sword go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr quicker.

[Vezon40k]

Publicado originalmente por Uncooked Toast:

Zealot make sword go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr quicker.

I think zealot should get a power sword

[Who trains thy hands for war?]

Publicado originalmente por GHOST:

-Crit bleed build zealot is the only one with a point. Build variety is just bad

Nah on Heresy you can use Eviscerator charge hordes with no fear. Spec the impact on 3 enemies hit talent and practice movesets. Heavy + light + light; block push attack + light are great against hordes

For Thunder Hammer, instead of slow swings all day, bring an Autogun. I recommend Braced Mark VIII. Now, enemies will be thinned and weaknesses covered, and more swings will be fun Power activated ones

[Greldinart]

like the ogryn, the zealot is melee oriented, the difference is that ogryn take less damage have more hp, and have a slower gameplay while the zealot get more mobility and tank better with thougness.
for elite/hord, both classe can handle them depending of weapon

[Tariel™]

There is no need when you have Ogren.

[Miles Mayhem]

Publicado originalmente por Buff Carnage:

Publicado originalmente por GHOST:

-Crit bleed build zealot is the only one with a point. Build variety is just bad

Nah on Heresy you can use Eviscerator charge hordes with no fear. Spec the impact on 3 enemies hit talent and practice movesets. Heavy + light + light; block push attack + light are great against hordes

For Thunder Hammer, instead of slow swings all day, bring an Autogun. I recommend Braced Mark VIII. Now, enemies will be thinned and weaknesses covered, and more swings will be fun Power activated ones

Sir, I see you are a conisseur in the art of onslought!

[Kaliwirta]

i dont see how veterans are useful

[Miles Mayhem]

Publicado originalmente por Vezon40k:

Publicado originalmente por Uncooked Toast:

Zealot make sword go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr quicker.

I think zealot should get a power sword

When using power sword with Psyker they feel really comparable in mechanic, especially charged special... guess the distinction is mostly for aesthetics

[Pickle Bath]

Zealot charges in to make ranged foes swap to melee. That's about it. Evis is nice, axe is good (but not class specific). Definitely some really dumb feats that they blindly brought across from VT2 without considering how they fit into DT

[The Roach]

The knife/bleed/crit Zealot with basically any decent gun is absolutely unstoppable. My toughness rarely, if ever, breaks. If it does and I take HP damage, I do more damage. The amount of crits I get with the knife means my ultimate cooldown is almost instantaneous. In higher difficulties I can ult charge, or slide charge, enemy gun lines and lock them in melee for the ranged to kill, if I don't erase them all first.