Thunder Hammer or Eviscerator ?

[S.P.A.S Mλdness]

So far the zealot if my favorite class and I'm hesitating between these two weapons for my main build. They both seem polyvalent and are tons of fun, so here's my questions for those used to it :

1. Which one is best for croud control ?
2. Which one is best for single target ?
3. Which one is best for numerous but scattered ennemies ?
4. Which one is best with a Bolter ?
5. Which one is best with a Flamer ?

Thank you for your feedback

[s0laris]

How about you try them both?

[Myta]

I think the Eviscerator is technically better but I enjoy the Power hammer more, mainly for the single target damage the Eviscerator doesn't have , but overall the Eviscerator is a better choice

[Efendi_]

1. Which one is best for croud control ? - Eviscerator
2. Which one is best for single target ? - Thunderhammer (Charged)
3. Which one is best for numerous but scattered ennemies ? - Eviscerator
4. Which one is best with a Bolter ? - Eviscerator
5. Which one is best with a Flamer ? - Eviscerator

[Zeek]

Slithy の投稿を引用：

1. Eviscerator
2. Eviscerator
3. Eviscerator
4. Eviscerator
5. Eviscerator

This.

The Hammer light attack just sucks all around.

Heavy attack you can sort of do light horde clearing but its still bad.

Alt attack is the only redeeming quality.

[Fulgen]

They're both pretty much equal. Hammer performs better but can be a pain in the ass to use, Evi is a lot more user friendly but doesn't do as well.

1 - Hammer
2 - Hammer
3 - Equal
4 - Equal
5 - Equal-ish ?

What it comes down to is dealing with elites while in a horde. With an Evi you can just rev your sword and cleave through while with the hammer you need to play some 5D positional chess to not waste your charge on trash in your way.

2 face of the same coin imo, hammer requires getting used to it. Play wichever you find the coolest.

[Gioke]

Efendi_ の投稿を引用：

1. Which one is best for croud control ? - Eviscerator
2. Which one is best for single target ? - Thunderhammer (Charged)
3. Which one is best for numerous but scattered ennemies ? - Eviscerator
4. Which one is best with a Bolter ? - Eviscerator
5. Which one is best with a Flamer ? - Eviscerator

For CC Thunder Hammer is miles better. Heavy cleave can hold a horde by itself. Surely you're not gonna kill everything you touch.

[Sentorian]

1. Eviscerator: They are both fine at it, but in my experience evisc is a little bit faster at actually clearing
2. Thunder Hammer: electrify is easier to use and crumps pretty much anything
3. Probably eviscerator? Not sure exactly what this scenario would look like.
4. Eviscerator, they complement each other pretty well, it's nice to not have to spend all your time revving and digging in
5. Thunder Hammer: clears hordes fast for the hammer, TH special for big guys

In my opinion, your mileage may vary and a lot of this depends on the stats of the weapon.

[[NZ] Vivi Strike]

I tried both, Eviscerator is far better at killing hordes with push attack into H1 L2 L3 and haas faster animation recovery.

Thunder Hammer has decent cleave and stagger but is noticeably slower at thinning out hordes and the push attack is bad. It can oneshot most heavies with a powered heavy attack (good counter for hounds and mutants).

it also seems like the hammer can 1/4 health a monstrosity in one powered heavy. i had 2 thunder hammers in a team kill a nurgle beast in under 10 seconds.

EDIT: It seems like Eviscerator isnt cleaving well when i tried today since i got a new one, i guess once you get the trait that increases cleaving by like 150% it becomes much better.

[Fulgen]

NZ Vivi Strike の投稿を引用：

I tried both, Eviscerator is far better at killing hordes with push attack into H1 L2 L3 and haas faster animation recovery.

Evi is faster but hammer is safer, it has extra range and a much wider cleaving arc.

[Clonedpickle]

Just get both so you can switch to either whenever you want?

[Zeromentor]

Cadian Assault Chainsword FTW

[Yagger]

both are good, using an eviscerator use a bolter, using a thunder hammer, use a flamer

[James Howlette]

Thunder Hammer is a bit ♥♥♥♥ compared to Eviscerator in general but's it's single target potential in terms of both damage and stagger is insane. The thing staggers everything that's not a boss and chunks down boss hp like no ones business. Where it falls off is actually being able to land the charged hit on anything but the basic poxwalkers perpetually running between your hammer and it's intended target (as it's charged hit is both horizontal and stops on the first target it hits).

[xDaunt]

S.P.A.S Madness の投稿を引用：

So far the zealot if my favorite class and I'm hesitating between these two weapons for my main build. They both seem polyvalent and are tons of fun, so here's my questions for those used to it :

1. Which one is best for croud control ?
2. Which one is best for single target ?
3. Which one is best for numerous but scattered ennemies ?
4. Which one is best with a Bolter ?
5. Which one is best with a Flamer ?

Thank you for your feedback :tsfmarine:

These answers are for Heresy level and above (Tier 4+):

1. Hammer, and by quite a bit. There's two things here that people miss. The first is the bonus stamina, which lets you block/push/counter far more than you can with the eviscerator. The second is that you can infinitely chain heavy sweeping strikes, so you can clear trash in about a 180 degree angle constantly. The hammer is a far safer weapon to use.

2. Hammer, but it's a closer call due to how finnicky the special attack can be in crowds. The eviscerator's special attack does not do as much damage against armor at the highest difficulty levels.

3. Eviscerator, just because it is a faster weapon.

4. Doesn't matter, but I use the bolter with a hammer for what it's worth.

5. Probably the hammer, just because you can use the flamer to clear trash, which makes landing your heavy special attacks easy. However, I don't recommend using the flamer if you're a solo queue zealot simply because you can't afford to be reliant upon your teammates to kill enemies at range. The bolter is the superior, all-purpose ranged weapon for this reason.

[Ghost]

sadly evis is the best of the two. I admit i only have a green of each around 250 but thunder hammer doesnt kill anything unless you power it up, then it only kills one thing before needing recharge. I can charge and swing the evis and slaughter hordes much easier and it also has an insta kill but it is slower.