Loving the bolter but major lack of ammo

[~*|Reborn|*~]

So just played one mission as my lvl 23 Sharpshooter with a bolter. Loved the weapon, however even when majorly conserving, ammo sniping and only letting rip when surrounded by a horde or up close to a heavy I find 15 rounds ammo is just way too little let alone the 112 spare.

Sure I've read in several books that the capacity of bolters is around 30 rounds. Would say that both mags and back ammo needs to be 1.5-2x as much or give more ammo from pickups. Was playing with some low level people who just ate all the spare ammo and found myself down to the line a few times. Not had this issue to this extent with any other weapon.

[Die†rich Borks†ein]

its lightened bolter for human sized dudes. lets be honest bolter is fckin broken as hell it can even kill bastion in his shield with clip, crushers more than half mag.... if bolter will have more ammo clip it will me OP even more. Now his power balanced with clunkyness, recoil, low cap and slow combat readyness.

[Ranvork Var'see]

Found bolted to me more fitting for the Zealot. Love using the weapon but it used are for Anti large/Elite enemy. Use melee for everything else.

As for Veteran class, Best range weapons can differ depending on team needs. Bolter tend to fall off when you have Psy or Orgryns in your team. If you have a team mostly of Vets, and Zealots then one Vet with a Bolter be handy for the enemy Orgryns.

[Majestic]

The ammo capacity for patterned bolters for Astarties and the smaller variants for the sisters indeed around 30 rounds. However, They're wearing power armor, You are not. Bolt rounds are heavy.

Also, Bolter ammo is exceedingly rare for anyone outside of the proper circles to acquire it. The Mechanicum does not like giving bolters or bolt weapons really to anyone outside of the most protected or prestigious and deserving. (SM's, SoB, Various nobles/officers) It's a miracle your inquisitor was even able to 'requisition' enough bolters to hand out to a bunch of his reject agents to begin with.

It makes sense from a lore perspective that the ammo you'd find and mag capacity of your weapon would be low to compensate for this. And lastly, in my experience the Bolter is pretty strong damage wise. Just like the Stubpistol and Shotgun which are also ammo starved. If they gave you too much ammo it would trivialize alot of encounters from a gameplay perspective.

[~*|Reborn|*~]

Adeptus Astartes fire the .75m version, smaller 'human' version is a .6. Supposedly the size of a large thumb and are small explosives that embed first so I think how they fire and damage is about right. I should of mentioned that I'm using a high end purple bolter so appreciate the lower tier ones should still be lower. Is just my 2 cents :)

[HunApo]

Bolter is so stupidly overpowered that it has to be nerfed, especially on veteran.
The fact that you can melt EVERYTHING with it is just ridiculous.
And im talking about dif5 when you melt 2-3 elites in a single salvo

[~*|Reborn|*~]

Originally posted by ᅚPointless:

The ammo capacity for patterned bolters for Astarties and the smaller variants for the sisters indeed around 30 rounds. However, They're wearing power armor, You are not. Bolt rounds are heavy.

Also, Bolter ammo is exceedingly rare for anyone outside of the proper circles to acquire it. The Mechanicum does not like giving bolters or bolt weapons really to anyone outside of the most protected or prestigious and deserving. (SM's, SoB, Various nobles/officers) It's a miracle your inquisitor was even able to 'requisition' enough bolters to hand out to a bunch of his reject agents to begin with so it.

It makes sense from a lore perspective that the ammo you'd find and mag capacity of your weapon would be low to compensate for this. And lastly, in my experience the Bolter is pretty strong damage wise. Just like the Stubpistol and Shotgun which are also ammo starved. If they gave you too much ammo it would trivialize alot of encounters from a gameplay perspective.

Is why both the gun and ammo and both sized down. They're not 'Rare' for other branches, not standard just not given to line troops. Most commissars have bolt pistols, as do many officers. For the inquisition's limitless powers, who also have the Death Watch and Grey Knights I doubt bolter ammo is light on the ground.

[Sir Smite]

I rarely ever found myself very low on ammo with a bolter. Try not to use it that often with hordes, instead relying on grenades or the power sword since that thing CLEAVES like crazy when powered up. I only use my bolter against ranged enemies, specials, ogryns, and bosses.

Originally posted by HunApo:

Bolter is so stupidly overpowered that it has to be nerfed...

That sounds like heresy to me. Someone get the commissar!

[dian (・∆・)]

Originally posted by HunApo:

Bolter is so stupidly overpowered that it has to be nerfed, especially on veteran.
The fact that you can melt EVERYTHING with it is just ridiculous.
And im talking about dif5 when you melt 2-3 elites in a single salvo

its almost like its doing its job as a low reserve ammo weapon

[~*|Reborn|*~]

Originally posted by Sir Smite:

I rarely ever found myself very low on ammo with a bolter. Try not to use it that often with hordes, instead relying on grenades or the power sword since that thing CLEAVES like crazy when powered up. I only use my bolter against ranged enemies, specials, ogryns, and bosses.

Originally posted by HunApo:

Bolter is so stupidly overpowered that it has to be nerfed...

That sounds like heresy to me. Someone get the commissar!

Yeah was trying to conserve ammo, I think it's probably more that the people I was playing the match with at the time were eating all the ammo for most of the level.

Not paired it with my power sword yet and was thinking that may be a good try.

Thanks for the suggestion :)

[Sifer2]

That's just how the game is balanced in general. All the actually good ranged weapons besides Lasguns have almost no ammo. At least with the Bolter is actually makes sense. Because like others mention Bolter ammo is basically tiny rockets. So they are heavy if your not wearing power armor.

[angelrei]

Considering the bolter can penetrate through multiple enemies, has a small aoe, panics ranged enemies, penetrate armour can easily unleash into a crusher to murder em and same for a bastion unload away, knock their shield away and murder em. So I think the ammo rate is good for such a powerful weapon, tho I'n still waiting to get my hands on a plasma gun and meltagun to see how strongs those are too.

[Sir Smite]

Originally posted by angelrei:

Considering the bolter can penetrate through multiple enemies, has a small aoe, panics ranged enemies, penetrate armour can easily unleash into a crusher to murder em and same for a bastion unload away, knock their shield away and murder em. So I think the ammo rate is good for such a powerful weapon, tho I'n still waiting to get my hands on a plasma gun and meltagun to see how strongs those are too.

Plasma gun has been very underwhelming so far. Lower kill-time compared to a bolter and you have to worry about overheating and it ending up killing you. Maybe I've just been using it wrong, but I've had way more fun and a faster time with killing enemies with the bolter.

[dian (・∆・)]

Where my Lucius Lasgun gamers at?
-Pierces Carapace
-Extremely high charge shot damage + headshot + volley fire ability
-High ammo capacity
-Fast swap time
-Fast reload
-Can half-charge for flak instead of full charge for big bois.

Only fails at horde + shield, but hey you have a melee weapon right?

[Sad Yak]

If u are hurting for ammo as sharpshooter with bolter, you arent playing it right.

[HunApo]

Originally posted by Upper DeSadge:

Originally posted by HunApo:

Bolter is so stupidly overpowered that it has to be nerfed, especially on veteran.
The fact that you can melt EVERYTHING with it is just ridiculous.
And im talking about dif5 when you melt 2-3 elites in a single salvo

its almost like its doing its job as a low reserve ammo weapon

My complain is that the weapon is just soo strong that basically invalidates every other weapon.
Why gimp yourself with flashlight or pewpew guns when you can deliver rocket propelled doom on demand?