Will Space Marines make an appearance in the game?

[Auditore]

IDK if it was ever mentioned or talked about but I was wondering if space marines will make a cameo or be apart of certain missions in the game?

[Mr_Pennywise]

Not as a playable one no
But as for a cameo i am not shore but don't think so

[Casper]

I hope we get chaos space marines as minibosses or something, like the chaos warriors in Vermintide 2

[Evilus Bootimus]

Originally posted by ArtificialCutie69:

There is a mission in Vermintide that involves us pushing a payload escorting a mine cart. Another mission has us reinforcing a fort and manning a cannon.

I hope that Darktide will have similar unique segments that has us working with a Leman Russ or a Space Marine. I'd be cool to experience fighting alongside all these massive powerhouses as a common foot soldier

I love this idea, maybe the space marine can be THE PAYLOAD we can help escort(?) to a rendezvous point after they get separated from like a main unit and gets trapped until we free them?

Lots of what ifs I know but would be a fun mission haha

[Nightmarian]

Space marines don't normally work alone and it'd be hard to imagine a space marine presence not taking over as the spearhead against the nurgle infestation.

As for chaos space marines, it's possible but unlikely. Even one chaos space marine can cause ridiculous amounts of destruction. There have been stories were entire guardsmen forces pretty much sacrificed themselves through some crazy plan just to kill a few chaos marines and their own traitor forces knowing they had no chance of fighting the chaos space marines head on.

So who knows. Maybe a mission where we're trying to avoid the chaos marines or have to escape from them would work.

Originally posted by Santuckcasper:

I hope we get chaos space marines as minibosses or something, like the chaos warriors in Vermintide 2

A chaos space marine wouldn't be a miniboss to a normal human. Wouldn't even work as a major boss, to be honest, unless something else besides us actually does most of the fighting and killing.

[Khryst]

Originally posted by Santuckcasper:

I hope we get chaos space marines as minibosses or something, like the chaos warriors in Vermintide 2

a chaos space marine would ♥♥♥♥ up a group of characters we play as with little to no issue. they are far more dangerous then a chaos warrior of warhammer fantasy.

with that said, I wouldn't mind helping out a Leman Russ, but it'd be doubtful (even though I love my Dark Angels ♥♥♥♥ YOU SPACE PUPPIES) even a loyal astartes would be on planet and not actively ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up a group of cultists that a group of normal imperials (by that I mean physically and yes even ogryn are not on their level) can fight. Astartes (loyal or traitor) are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 9ft. tall SUPERHUMANS and actually quite rare in the imperium, as few have actually fought along side them in the guard or inquistion and even fewer have even SEEN one. They also aren't even the biggest baddest anymore with the introduction of the Primarus who are even taller/bigger/stronger/faster/so on and so on.

Astartes aren't a case of Captain America vs normal human, it's a case of Hulk vs nomral human.

[Casper]

Originally posted by kblaze13:

Originally posted by Santuckcasper:

I hope we get chaos space marines as minibosses or something, like the chaos warriors in Vermintide 2

a chaos space marine would ♥♥♥♥ up a group of characters we play as with little to no issue. they are far more dangerous then a chaos warrior of warhammer fantasy.

with that said, I wouldn't mind helping out a Leman Russ, but it'd be doubtful (even though I love my Dark Angels ♥♥♥♥ YOU SPACE PUPPIES) even a loyal astartes would be on planet and not actively ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up a group of cultists that a group of normal imperials (by that I mean physically and yes even ogryn are not on their level) can fight. Astartes (loyal or traitor) are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 9ft. tall SUPERHUMANS and actually quite rare in the imperium, as few have actually fought along side them in the guard or inquistion and even fewer have even SEEN one. They also aren't even the biggest baddest anymore with the introduction of the Primarus who are even taller/bigger/stronger/faster/so on and so on.

Astartes aren't a case of Captain America vs normal human, it's a case of Hulk vs nomral human.

We already gun down thousands of cultists like they are nothing. having a chaos marine be a miniboss isn't a far stretch. Sure they are strong and dangerous way beyond a normal man, yes, but they aren't invincible, chaos space marines have died to a stray lucky shot of a guardsman before, its not hard to imagine an Inquisition hit team could kill one if they were skilled and got lucky.

[Viconia DeVir]

Originally posted by Palaiologos:

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

A chaos space marine wouldn't be a miniboss to a normal human. Wouldn't even work as a major boss, to be honest, unless something else besides us actually does most of the fighting and killing.

I am pretty sure a normal human couldn't mow down hundreds of Chaos cultists either.

Don't forget plague ogryns either. Four normal humans shouldn't be able to accomplish half the things people do in this game do. You'll need a regiment or more to even fight the horde that the game throws at you.

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by Palaiologos:

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

A chaos space marine wouldn't be a miniboss to a normal human. Wouldn't even work as a major boss, to be honest, unless something else besides us actually does most of the fighting and killing.

I am pretty sure a normal human couldn't mow down hundreds of Chaos cultists either.

They actually could. There's some messiness here because A) it's warhammer, it's lore is always a mess and B) it's a game, so things are fun before they're realistic, but a normal person being turned into an effectual zombie doesn't mean they're suddenly a god. A good strike team could definitely take down hordes of chaff. The traitor guardsmen were supposed to be the cream of the crop for the system though, so that's a bit of a different story, but the game makes it sound like our convicts all had plenty of combat experience too, and it doesn't look like the traitor guard is still operating in an organized military fashion. Not that this is nurgle's thing anyway.

But killing a chaos marine would be way beyond the hand-wavy range of believable unless, again, it's indirect like we bring down an entire section of the hive on him or something.

Originally posted by Viconia DeVir:

Originally posted by Palaiologos:

I am pretty sure a normal human couldn't mow down hundreds of Chaos cultists either.

Don't forget plague ogryns either. Four normal humans shouldn't be able to accomplish half the things people do in this game do. You'll need a regiment or more to even fight the horde that the game throws at you.

Ogryns aren't as great as people think they are. They're still basically a variation of normal human and also tend to be fairly stupid and easy to manipulate without someone constantly in control of them. Like, seriously, look them up. They have locks and timers on their weapons to prevent them from wasting ammo and most of their commanders don't bother giving them complicating orders or using them for manuevers.

A plague ogryn is a miniboss in this agme for a reason and it makes sense. It's a "oh ♥♥♥♥ oh god moment" for sure, but it's not like they're a greater demon of nurgle or a chaos marine lmao. It's just a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pairing of already tough to kill with the dark god known for making things tough to kill that makes them so dangerous.

A space marine could probably kill one alone without much trouble. Yes, they're strong enough to physically kill a space marine, but the likelihood of it is low, and from what I remember of the few times it happened in the stories, it was always a distracted (chaos I believe) marine, already wounded one, or damaged one that the ogryn got lucky with getting through the armor.

It's like saying well technically a normal human could kill a space marine with a bolter to the head. Yep, true, but the chances of that actually happening in a general combat scenario is next to none.

[Alcyonaria]

Ogryns have killed space marines. But the community manager has confirmed no space marines in gameplay or cameos. To focus more on the common imperial citizen/prisoner.

[Casper]

Originally posted by Alcyonaria:

Ogryns have killed space marines. But the community manager has confirmed no space marines in gameplay or cameos. To focus more on the common imperial citizen/prisoner.

Yeah I dont want any actual playable space marines, they are overdone in games and stories and take the light away from normal Humans which I find more interesting, but I still think a chaos space marine boss would be really cool, just some big tanky SOB.

[Khryst]

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

Originally posted by Palaiologos:

I am pretty sure a normal human couldn't mow down hundreds of Chaos cultists either.

They actually could. There's some messiness here because A) it's warhammer, it's lore is always a mess and B) it's a game, so things are fun before they're realistic, but a normal person being turned into an effectual zombie doesn't mean they're suddenly a god. A good strike team could definitely take down hordes of chaff. The traitor guardsmen were supposed to be the cream of the crop for the system though, so that's a bit of a different story, but the game makes it sound like our convicts all had plenty of combat experience too, and it doesn't look like the traitor guard is still operating in an organized military fashion. Not that this is nurgle's thing anyway.

But killing a chaos marine would be way beyond the hand-wavy range of believable unless, again, it's indirect like we bring down an entire section of the hive on him or something.

Originally posted by Viconia DeVir:

Don't forget plague ogryns either. Four normal humans shouldn't be able to accomplish half the things people do in this game do. You'll need a regiment or more to even fight the horde that the game throws at you.

Ogryns aren't as great as people think they are. They're still basically a variation of normal human and also tend to be fairly stupid and easy to manipulate without someone constantly in control of them. Like, seriously, look them up. They have locks and timers on their weapons to prevent them from wasting ammo and most of their commanders don't bother giving them complicating orders or using them for manuevers.

A plague ogryn is a miniboss in this agme for a reason and it makes sense. It's a "oh ♥♥♥♥ oh god moment" for sure, but it's not like they're a greater demon of nurgle or a chaos marine lmao. It's just a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pairing of already tough to kill with the dark god known for making things tough to kill that makes them so dangerous.

A space marine could probably kill one alone without much trouble. Yes, they're strong enough to physically kill a space marine, but the likelihood of it is low, and from what I remember of the few times it happened in the stories, it was always a distracted (chaos I believe) marine, already wounded one, or damaged one that the ogryn got lucky with getting through the armor.

It's like saying well technically a normal human could kill a space marine with a bolter to the head. Yep, true, but the chances of that actually happening in a general combat scenario is next to none.

exactly there's an old meme that is very very true when it comes to IG, and while yes our convicts may be working for an inquisitor it's not they like are actually inquisitorial forces and decked out with all their toys...at least not for awhile.

I can't find the meme right now,, but it basically shows how IG (which is one of our characters are) in their codex are badass but in EVERY other forces codex they are nowhere near their power. and it's true The IG forces don't "win" by their infantry, they win with tanks and artillery raining hell continuously down on their enemy...even while their own infantry have fixed bayonets and engaged in melee combat which leads to many other jokes about Commissars and their kill counts.

A tide game is pushing the very limits of the lore to the extreme in 40k by being "normal" humans which is why and we shouldn't see many of the other units 40k has to offer simply because of the difference in power.

Don't get me wrong I would love to bring death to 'nids,Eldar (Dark or otherwise),Orks, Necron, Tau, and various spawn/servants of Chaos, ESPECIALLY the Tau...but without being space marines or some crazy powerful Psyker it WOULD be lorebreaking to the point it wouldn't be warhammer anymore, even if GW does tend to play fast and lose with it when it suits them. While it may be a video game, we've had so little 40k games that are good that I want one that is that does at least TRY to stay within the boundaries and not just throw it to the wind.

[Mr Roboto]

if they send in space marines then you are going up against S so bad you will wish they turned you into a servitor.

[Heretical_Cactus]

They have said multiple times that there won't be any SM, at all

As for could we kill one. Depend on the load out we have. 4 Vet with lasguns/Knife

Hardly any chance. Give them Plasma, Melta and Bolter. No real problem with a SM

[fester-adams]

Space marines are a rare sight in the Imperial hive-cities. It's not the front-line and not all-out chaos invaison. Just a small "usual" unrest. So IMHO no space marines.

[Casper]

Originally posted by fester-adams:

Space marines are a rare sight in the Imperial hive-cities. It's not the front-line and not all-out chaos invaison. Just a small "usual" unrest. So IMHO no space marines.

This is definitely not a 'small usual unrest', its a massive Nurgle cult uprising that's ripping the hive city apart, its not hard at all to imagine some Nurgle aligned space marines might be mucking about.