ogryn is a terrible idea

[kigraa]

i cant wait to play with a melee ogryn in the team, 9.6 Ft tall, blocking the view in corridors, getting shoot in the back by 3 ranged. complaning and ragequiting while being the Host.... bad idea.

[sel]

wouldnt mind if Friendly fire just wasnt a thing. Its a minor annoyance in vermintide. It doesnt add anything to the gameplay. and you're probably right, the ogryn player will probably get kerillian'd.

[Zenkei88]

Originally posted by SilverWF:

Originally posted by Katitoff:

Everyone was an ogryn if you played Bardin.
It wasn't issue there, it won't be issue now.

Well, Bardin is alone vs 3 "ogryns", also, VT isn't range focused.
Here we will have 1 ogryn vs 3 "Bardins", so he will attract everyones attention.

After Engineer release, Bardin is compete in FF with Kerillian and Sienna, tbf...

you're assuming ogryn won't have tank abilities , also we don't know how the armor/accesory system will work

[Skearn]

Originally posted by Zenkei88:

Originally posted by SilverWF:

Well, Bardin is alone vs 3 "ogryns", also, VT isn't range focused.
Here we will have 1 ogryn vs 3 "Bardins", so he will attract everyones attention.

After Engineer release, Bardin is compete in FF with Kerillian and Sienna, tbf...

you're assuming ogryn won't have tank abilities , also we don't know how the armor/accesory system will work

he will most deff either have tank abilities to choose or build on, have it as part of his basic kit (being an ogryn) and most likely it will be both.

just my guess but it seems a reasonable guess at the least^^

also: I WANT OGRYN TOO!>:(

[Zenkei88]

Originally posted by Skearn:

Originally posted by Zenkei88:

you're assuming ogryn won't have tank abilities , also we don't know how the armor/accesory system will work

he will most deff either have tank abilities to choose or build on, have it as part of his basic kit (being an ogryn) and most likely it will be both.

just my guess but it seems a reasonable guess at the least^^

also: I WANT OGRYN TOO!>:(

possibly he will be unable to get stunned/pinned by specials , would make sense

[Skearn]

Originally posted by Zenkei88:

Originally posted by Skearn:

he will most deff either have tank abilities to choose or build on, have it as part of his basic kit (being an ogryn) and most likely it will be both.

just my guess but it seems a reasonable guess at the least^^

also: I WANT OGRYN TOO!>:(

possibly he will be unable to get stunned/pinned by specials , would make sense

yea^^ i also imagine an amount of damage reduc wich can be increased by whatever:D

[Licher.Rus]

Ogryn is ugly AF
Has low number of range options, both his weapons looks like toys in his hands.
Most likely I will leave game if the only option I will have to is ogryn.
And he is just ugly AF...
There is such ton of different choices to pick from all even just Imperial troops and they took ogryn.
Also, he is ugly AF... I think I said that already.

Also, for the balanse purposes, they will make that ugly monster do ~ same damage as others and this will be just most insanely dumb thing one can only imagine - this basically will FkUp the whole cration of ogryns idea.
Why they will equals them? Because of green circle cryers, who wouldn't be happy that ogryns would be MVP at any game.

Originally posted by Mr.Wiggles:

Originally posted by Gunslinger:

poorly worded but they have a point, if you issues is all that an ogryn is too big then the same logic works with any non Bardin characters

Thats exaxtly the opposite, there is only one big figure walking around and clogging your line of fire, as opposed in vermintide's 3 humans for the dwarf player.

This is exactly what I typed before, lol!
That huge monster (who is ugly as Ebby from TLOU2) will just block everyones LOS and gete all friendly hits to his back!
Isn't that obvious?

[Skearn]

Originally posted by SilverWF:

Ogryn is ugly AF
Has low number of range options, both his weapons looks like toys in his hands.
Most likely I will leave game if the only option I will have to is ogryn.
And he is just ugly AF...
There is such ton of different choices to pick from all even just Imperial troops and they took ogryn.
Also, he is ugly AF... I think I said that already.

Also, for the balanse purposes, they will make that ugly monster do ~ same damage as others and this will be just most insanely dumb thing one can only imagine - this basically will FkUp the whole cration of ogryns idea.
Why they will equals them? Because of green circle cryers, who wouldn't be happy that ogryns would be MVP at any game.

Originally posted by Mr.Wiggles:

Thats exaxtly the opposite, there is only one big figure walking around and clogging your line of fire, as opposed in vermintide's 3 humans for the dwarf player.

This is exactly what I typed before, lol!
That huge monster (who is ugly as Ebby from TLOU2) will just block everyones LOS and gete all friendly hits to his back!
Isn't that obvious?

there will always be friendly fire, but yea the ogryn's size might make that happen a little more or a lot more depending on your teammates and how the ogryn positions himself.

ogryns are supposed to be ugly, there hasnt been any ogryn ever that has ever come close to looking as "handsome" for an ogryn as our playable ogryn boi imo^^

as for balance talk, there isnt much to talk about, i mean the amount of ranged options shouldnt be many because ogryns are known to be melee types and use ranged weapons or anything they can get their hands on really, as clubs and stuff.
even gunluggers (ogryn "marksman") have bad aim considering the other ranged units lorewise.

we cant speak of damage at all yet because the game isnt out, but i consider a difference in power of lets say a low health zealot vs merc kruber.
but really its a moot point untill we can actually play the game i think.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

For a very logic Reason this reminds me on Overwatch, sure there you do not really have narrow Corridors all the Time but yeah sometimes Hog or Rein can also block your Line of Fire and you have to relocate or simply wait. But it was never a Problem i thought longer about then a split Second, actually it was never a real Problem. But yeah its true the Map Design plays a big Role here. I personally dont think that the whole Team of Fatshark has forgotten about that. On the other Hand the Imagination that they really have forgotten about it is to funny ha ha ha xD

(John have you read this Post here? ... omg we have not taken that in Account ... OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)

EDIT: sorry i could not resist to make this dumb Joke ...

[Dreamy Autist]

It will be even worse than firethrowers

[Beravin]

In return, the Ogryn will probably have beastly defensive stats, a giant healthpool and will work as walking cover against ranged enemies. Plus, we know he has a grenade launcher and a shotgun. All he really needs is a shield and he'll be an ideal frontliner.

[Skearn]

Originally posted by evil#W40K/Darktide:

For a very logic Reason this reminds me on Overwatch, sure there you do not really have narrow Corridors all the Time but yeah sometimes Hog or Rein can also block your Line of Fire and you have to relocate or simply wait. But it was never a Problem i thought longer about then a split Second, actually it was never a real Problem. But yeah its true the Map Design plays a big Role here. I personally dont think that the whole Team of Fatshark has forgotten about that. On the other Hand the Imagination that they really have forgotten about it is to funny ha ha ha xD

(John have you read this Post here? ... omg we have not taken that in Account ... OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)

EDIT: sorry i could not resist to make this dumb Joke ...

no worries, i chuckled meself ;3

Originally posted by Beravin:

In return, the Ogryn will probably have beastly defensive stats, a giant healthpool and will work as walking cover against ranged enemies. Plus, we know he has a grenade launcher and a shotgun. All he really needs is a shield and he'll be an ideal frontliner.

bullgryn's have a shield and weapon combo, might be in darktide also:o

the mobile fortress strat revived xD

[darth.crevette]

Originally posted by Skearn:

bullgryn's have a shield and weapon combo, might be in darktide also:o

the mobile fortress strat revived xD

One-man shieldwall and bull of Ostland in one single package! Truly the bestest of bois.

[Skearn]

Originally posted by darth.crevette:

Originally posted by Skearn:

bullgryn's have a shield and weapon combo, might be in darktide also:o

the mobile fortress strat revived xD

One-man shieldwall and bull of Ostland in one single package! Truly the bestest of bois. :chug:

heall yea man!:D

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by Skearn:

Originally posted by darth.crevette:

One-man shieldwall and bull of Ostland in one single package! Truly the bestest of bois. :chug:

heall yea man!:D

Now i have a Picture in my Head of the Guys from "300" being replaced by Ogryns xD

"you shall not pass" oh wait that was another Movie ... doh. No no wait i have it "Give them Nothing, but take from them Everthing, for the Emperor !!!!!" xD

[Skearn]

Originally posted by evil#W40K/Darktide:

Originally posted by Skearn:

heall yea man!:D

Now i have a Picture in my Head of the Guys from "300" being replaced by Ogryns xD

"you shall not pass" oh wait that was another Movie ... doh. No no wait i have it "Give them Nothing, but take from them Everthing, for the Emperor !!!!!" xD

that would be so cool!:O

i would pay some serious cash for that ngl:D