Thinking of buying but worried about performance

[みさかりん]

I've seached topics about performance since most of the negative reviews are about it. If my pc specs are above the recommended, will I have a good time playing this performance wise or is this port related issue?

[⭕TheSodaman]

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Thinking of buying but worried about performance
I've seached topics about performance since most of the negative reviews are about it. If my pc specs are above the recommended, will I have a good time playing this performance wise or is this port related issue?

It'll depend on your expectations and the amount of troubleshooting you are willing to put in with the hardware.

For example, if you will not play unless you can get 120 FPS with everything maxed out, would recommend not buying the game regardless of hardware.

If you are willing to play the game at 60 FPS or if your hardware is a bit more recent, doing some subjectively light troubleshooting, then give it go for maybe up to an hour. There are some Steam guides looking into configuring your eCores (if applicable), a third party tool called Process Lasso, or a different third party tool called Special K that have yielded acceptable results for a number of players.

For testing it out, set the difficulty low, skip the story sequences, finish the tutorial, skip more story, fight through the first area, break the first purple wall, fight the enemies after it that spew fire, and see how the performance is.

If you need to take a break from testing and you close out of the game, check the Task Manager (or equivalent) for the Stranger of Paradise executable and if it's still there after a few seconds, kill it to avoid running up your playtime.

If you haven't found a configuration that is acceptable for you within an hour of playtime, scrap further troubleshooting, and refund.

I'm hoping you find a configuration that suits you. (For reference, I'm playing on a GTX 1070, Core i7 7700-something and found settings for 60 FPS for me. BUT I also don't care about graphics anywhere as much as someone that keeps their GPUs at N-1. That and I don't have the patience to troubleshoot the RTX series with Japanese PC games since it seems to be a recurring issue.)

[みさかりん]

Originally posted by ⭕TheSodaman:

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Thinking of buying but worried about performance
I've seached topics about performance since most of the negative reviews are about it. If my pc specs are above the recommended, will I have a good time playing this performance wise or is this port related issue?

It'll depend on your expectations and the amount of troubleshooting you are willing to put in with the hardware.

For example, if you will not play unless you can get 120 FPS with everything maxed out, would recommend not buying the game regardless of hardware.

If you are willing to play the game at 60 FPS or if your hardware is a bit more recent, doing some subjectively light troubleshooting, then give it go for maybe up to an hour. There are some Steam guides looking into configuring your eCores (if applicable), a third party tool called Process Lasso, or a different third party tool called Special K that have yielded acceptable results for a number of players.

For testing it out, set the difficulty low, skip the story sequences, finish the tutorial, skip more story, fight through the first area, break the first purple wall, fight the enemies after it that spew fire, and see how the performance is.

If you need to take a break from testing and you close out of the game, check the Task Manager (or equivalent) for the Stranger of Paradise executable and if it's still there after a few seconds, kill it to avoid running up your playtime.

If you haven't found a configuration that is acceptable for you within an hour of playtime, scrap further troubleshooting, and refund.

I'm hoping you find a configuration that suits you. (For reference, I'm playing on a GTX 1070, Core i7 7700-something and found settings for 60 FPS for me. BUT I also don't care about graphics anywhere as much as someone that keeps their GPUs at N-1. That and I don't have the patience to troubleshoot the RTX series with Japanese PC games since it seems to be a recurring issue.)

Thanks for replying. I saw how the 3rd party tool helped others and some are skeptical about the safety of the those 3rd party tools. As for me, I prefer not to use any 3rd party and just play the game as it is. 120fps would be really nice but if the game does not go below 60 then it will be good for me.

[Katitoff]

Buy the game, see how it runs and if it does not meet your expectations, refund.

For me it was running perfectly on highest settings, tho I had to limit FPS, soulbursting too much things at once caused slowdown.

[Engels78]

Has this game got fluent fps cap limit or just few levels (60/120/144 etc)???

I have RTX 4070 and use 1440p screen, and I don't have anything running in background except MSI afterburner, so I am rather confident about performance, but it's good to know. Most games except FPS shooters, where I try to get 144 fps, I just cap to 60 fps to have lower fan speed on GPU 😉

[Goose Appreciator]

I am new to PC gaming with a fairly cheap rig. I have an i5, 16 gb VRAM, rtx 3060. With in-game graphics settings on the lowest possible preset - even customizing so that I can go lower than "min" with regard to shadow quality - I cannot achieve >30FPS. I loved the demo on ps4. I could achieve a stable 60fps on Armored Core 6 on this PC, so I am disappointed at the performance of this game...

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by Goose Appreciator:

I am new to PC gaming with a fairly cheap rig. I have an i5, 16 gb VRAM, rtx 3060. With in-game graphics settings on the lowest possible preset - even customizing so that I can go lower than "min" with regard to shadow quality - I cannot achieve >30FPS. I loved the demo on ps4. I could achieve a stable 60fps on Armored Core 6 on this PC, so I am disappointed at the performance of this game...

Did you check the drivers? I cannot believe 3060 (if you're speaking about desktop version) couldn't achieve 60 fps. My GPU is weaker than yours and with DLSS on performance I have no problems with 60 fps, with few exceptions, like multi soulburst

[Goose Appreciator]

Originally posted by Hanzo:

Originally posted by Goose Appreciator:

I am new to PC gaming with a fairly cheap rig. I have an i5, 16 gb VRAM, rtx 3060. With in-game graphics settings on the lowest possible preset - even customizing so that I can go lower than "min" with regard to shadow quality - I cannot achieve >30FPS. I loved the demo on ps4. I could achieve a stable 60fps on Armored Core 6 on this PC, so I am disappointed at the performance of this game...

Did you check the drivers? I cannot believe 3060 (if you're speaking about desktop version) couldn't achieve 60 fps. My GPU is weaker than yours and with DLSS on performance I have no problems with 60 fps, with few exceptions, like multi soulburst

Perhaps it is due to being new to PC gaming, but I have updated my graphics card drivers, to no avail. Are you referring to a potential problem where certain updated drivers give *worse* performance?

[Gnodab]

Originally posted by Goose Appreciator:

I am new to PC gaming with a fairly cheap rig. I have an i5, 16 gb VRAM, rtx 3060. With in-game graphics settings on the lowest possible preset - even customizing so that I can go lower than "min" with regard to shadow quality - I cannot achieve >30FPS. I loved the demo on ps4. I could achieve a stable 60fps on Armored Core 6 on this PC, so I am disappointed at the performance of this game...

My setup is similar, with i5 12600KF, 16GB RAM and RTX 3060, and I can get 60 FPS on Max, although I turned it down so my card isn't running at over 90%. I don't know how recent your processor is though, that may be contributing. Can you give more info on that?

[Goose Appreciator]

Originally posted by Gnodab:

Originally posted by Goose Appreciator:

I am new to PC gaming with a fairly cheap rig. I have an i5, 16 gb VRAM, rtx 3060. With in-game graphics settings on the lowest possible preset - even customizing so that I can go lower than "min" with regard to shadow quality - I cannot achieve >30FPS. I loved the demo on ps4. I could achieve a stable 60fps on Armored Core 6 on this PC, so I am disappointed at the performance of this game...

My setup is similar, with i5 12600KF, 16GB RAM and RTX 3060, and I can get 60 FPS on Max, although I turned it down so my card isn't running at over 90%. I don't know how recent your processor is though, that may be contributing. Can you give more info on that?

This is a question showing my lack of technical expertise, but by processor do you mean the "P" in CPU?
If so it is an intel i5-11500 @ 2.70 GHz.

HOWEVER I have figured out that if I turn VSYNC off, I am able to get my target FPS of 60. Makes it a little less pretty but I can live. If you can give me some tips on how to run at 60 FPS with VSYNCH I'd be incredibly grateful.

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by Goose Appreciator:

Originally posted by Gnodab:

My setup is similar, with i5 12600KF, 16GB RAM and RTX 3060, and I can get 60 FPS on Max, although I turned it down so my card isn't running at over 90%. I don't know how recent your processor is though, that may be contributing. Can you give more info on that?

This is a question showing my lack of technical expertise, but by processor do you mean the "P" in CPU?
If so it is an intel i5-11500 @ 2.70 GHz.

HOWEVER I have figured out that if I turn VSYNC off, I am able to get my target FPS of 60. Makes it a little less pretty but I can live. If you can give me some tips on how to run at 60 FPS with VSYNCH I'd be incredibly grateful.

Is there a chance that you use integrated Intel graphics instead of dedicated Nvidia?

Run and minimize the game, press "ctrl + shift + esc" -> Check Performance tab and check what GPU game process (STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGINS) does use. If you don't have "GPU engine" column -> right click on any column -> "GPU engine". Then you'll see something like GPU 0 or GPU 1. Go to "Performance" tab, there at bottom left there would be text, like
"GPU 0 Intel(R) UHD Graphics" and "GPU 1 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060", so if game process uses GPU 0, then you know that you run it on integrated card and it would be a miracle to squeeze 30 fps from that. If you're using integrated (GPU0) read the Nvidia guide how to force game to run on your 3060

[Engels78]

Originally posted by Gnodab:

Originally posted by Goose Appreciator:

This is a question showing my lack of technical expertise, but by processor do you mean the "P" in CPU?
If so it is an intel i5-11500 @ 2.70 GHz.

Yeah that's it, and that should be able to handle this game pretty well.

HOWEVER I have figured out that if I turn VSYNC off, I am able to get my target FPS of 60. Makes it a little less pretty but I can live. If you can give me some tips on how to run at 60 FPS with VSYNCH I'd be incredibly grateful.

I'm not really an expert on this stuff either, but you can try turning off all the fancy visual effects in the Graphics tab and see which ones tank your performance. Stuff like Screen Space Reflections and Chromatic Aberration can eat a lot of resources and you probably won't even miss them.

Something else you can try is switching between Borderless and Full Screen display in the Graphics tab. Games usually run better in Full Screen mode.

One more thing. Go into Geforce Experience and pull down the menu next to the "Check for Updates" text in the top right corner. You can choose between Studio Drivers and Game Ready Drivers. If you aren't using Game Ready that could be an issue, especially for a graphics-intensive game like this.

First thing, UNINSTALL GeForce Experience! This eats resources! Better watch YouTube videos with people showing settings for his RTX 3060 for specific games, or ask here on Steam Forum!
Generally like above, disable those Chromatic Aberration and motion blur. And... Despite in 1080p it can be visible, antialiasing. Playing in 1080p also doesn't require high resolution textures in many cases, however it's more matter of VRam amount needed rather then performance/fps...

I play games for 38 years, and modify myself my PC for like 28 years... My 3 last GPU was RTX 2070 super, 3070 and 4070. Now I play in 1440p.

His 3060 if NOT laptop one, is quite good GPU for 1080p! He has DLSS so should be able to play medium/high details even in newer games.

I know as mine old 2070 super is quite similar to his 3060:

https://youtu.be/pZLbZMVPfT8?si=KXXBFGge5h2_-IxG

https://youtu.be/JHDcFabe-Hk?si=AaROEdofmY_zpi85

[Goose Appreciator]

Originally posted by Engels78:

Originally posted by Gnodab:

Yeah that's it, and that should be able to handle this game pretty well.



I'm not really an expert on this stuff either, but you can try turning off all the fancy visual effects in the Graphics tab and see which ones tank your performance. Stuff like Screen Space Reflections and Chromatic Aberration can eat a lot of resources and you probably won't even miss them.

Something else you can try is switching between Borderless and Full Screen display in the Graphics tab. Games usually run better in Full Screen mode.

One more thing. Go into Geforce Experience and pull down the menu next to the "Check for Updates" text in the top right corner. You can choose between Studio Drivers and Game Ready Drivers. If you aren't using Game Ready that could be an issue, especially for a graphics-intensive game like this.

First thing, UNINSTALL GeForce Experience! This eats resources! Better watch YouTube videos with people showing settings for his RTX 3060 for specific games, or ask here on Steam Forum!
Generally like above, disable those Chromatic Aberration and motion blur. And... Despite in 1080p it can be visible, antialiasing. Playing in 1080p also doesn't require high resolution textures in many cases, however it's more matter of VRam amount needed rather then performance/fps...

I play games for 38 years, and modify myself my PC for like 28 years... My 3 last GPU was RTX 2070 super, 3070 and 4070. Now I play in 1440p.

His 3060 if NOT laptop one, is quite good GPU for 1080p! He has DLSS so should be able to play medium/high details even in newer games.

I know as mine old 2070 super is quite similar to his 3060:

https://youtu.be/pZLbZMVPfT8?si=KXXBFGge5h2_-IxG

https://youtu.be/JHDcFabe-Hk?si=AaROEdofmY_zpi85

I suppose this is a reply to both Engels and the-opposite-of-badong, but I have tried to have vsync on while EVERYTHING else was off and with the resolution dropped to 720p. FPS still stuck at 30.
It may be the fact I'm using a TV as a monitor: from my 5 minutes of googling what exactly vsync is, I think it caps the FPS at the refresh rate of the monitor. Since the TV is not a gaming monitor that could be the case...
That's the only reason I can think of for me to be able to get 60fps with vsync off, 1440p, and everything on "medium" settings and 30fps with vsync on, 720p, everything off.
The only thing that puts a wrench into this: how come I could get 60 fps with vsync on in AC6, Elden Ring, Clash: Artifacts of Chaos, and more?

[Engels78]

Originally posted by Goose Appreciator:

Originally posted by Engels78:

First thing, UNINSTALL GeForce Experience! This eats resources! Better watch YouTube videos with people showing settings for his RTX 3060 for specific games, or ask here on Steam Forum!
Generally like above, disable those Chromatic Aberration and motion blur. And... Despite in 1080p it can be visible, antialiasing. Playing in 1080p also doesn't require high resolution textures in many cases, however it's more matter of VRam amount needed rather then performance/fps...

I play games for 38 years, and modify myself my PC for like 28 years... My 3 last GPU was RTX 2070 super, 3070 and 4070. Now I play in 1440p.

His 3060 if NOT laptop one, is quite good GPU for 1080p! He has DLSS so should be able to play medium/high details even in newer games.

I know as mine old 2070 super is quite similar to his 3060:

https://youtu.be/pZLbZMVPfT8?si=KXXBFGge5h2_-IxG

https://youtu.be/JHDcFabe-Hk?si=AaROEdofmY_zpi85

I suppose this is a reply to both Engels and the-opposite-of-badong, but I have tried to have vsync on while EVERYTHING else was off and with the resolution dropped to 720p. FPS still stuck at 30.
It may be the fact I'm using a TV as a monitor: from my 5 minutes of googling what exactly vsync is, I think it caps the FPS at the refresh rate of the monitor. Since the TV is not a gaming monitor that could be the case...
That's the only reason I can think of for me to be able to get 60fps with vsync off, 1440p, and everything on "medium" settings and 30fps with vsync on, 720p, everything off.
The only thing that puts a wrench into this: how come I could get 60 fps with vsync on in AC6, Elden Ring, Clash: Artifacts of Chaos, and more?

Yes, VSync = matching fps with your screen Refresh Rate.

I don't know what TV you have, but most of LCD TV, has at least 60Hz refresh rate. Our 15 years TV has 60Hz. What I can think, it can be matter of cable/port you are using. I have connected wife PC to TV by HDMI cable.

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by Goose Appreciator:

That's the only reason I can think of for me to be able to get 60fps with vsync off, 1440p, and everything on "medium" settings and 30fps with vsync on, 720p, everything off.
The only thing that puts a wrench into this: how come I could get 60 fps with vsync on in AC6, Elden Ring, Clash: Artifacts of Chaos, and more?

If you set game to "Fullscreen" you may see 60 fps, depending on your tv

[Goose Appreciator]

It was fullscreen and was connected via an HDMI cable. However, I have solved the issue through a strange series of plugging and unplugging the HDMI cord. Nothing worked until...I decided to go to my computer's display settings, downscale from 4K to 1440p, and then back to 4K, which suddenly caused the refresh rate to be 60hz. I have no idea why. I didn't do anything. It was the equivalent of turning off and back on, but the issue is fixed. Those specs are capable of running at a nice 60fps in 1440p with settings on medium.
So if that helps anyone, that's great. Otherwise my portion of this saga is over. Back to killing Chaos!