Is it me or does Hard seem too easy?

[Zeek]

After the first boss, which seemed challenging.. The game became super easy, not sure what balance was considered, but I have not struggled at beating a boss on the first try since. Just beat the first servant of Chaos which you fight in the start and it's been underwhelming on Hard...

[Aria Athena]

Ditch the party and play solo, that's the actual difficulty setting. Bosses in my opinion are not very good overall, but on my own I found them hard enough.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Ditch the party and play solo, that's the actual difficulty setting. Bosses in my opinion are not very good overall, but on my own I found them hard enough.

I guess it doesn't help playing co-op either. There was no balancing put in for friends playing as well I guess. Just one other friend, and we are one hitting most mobs and putting bosses to shame in less than 1 minute. We bought it to play co-op, but wanted a challenge, maybe we expected a bit much after playing Dark Souls games and other FF games. We kinda wish there was a step above this, with near one hit moves to keep us on our toes and a beefy boss that needs you to hit them enough times for them to get through all their move sets.

[randomguy01542]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Ditch the party and play solo, that's the actual difficulty setting. Bosses in my opinion are not very good overall, but on my own I found them hard enough.

you can ditch npcs?

[vogelman198]

Originally posted by randomguy01542:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Ditch the party and play solo, that's the actual difficulty setting. Bosses in my opinion are not very good overall, but on my own I found them hard enough.

you can ditch npcs?

Ssst my son, its a secret we dont talk about. Just forget it

[⭕TheSodaman]

Originally posted by Zeek:

After the first boss, which seemed challenging.. The game became super easy, not sure what balance was considered, but I have not struggled at beating a boss on the first try since. Just beat the first servant of Chaos which you fight in the start and it's been underwhelming on Hard...

If two or three aggressive action veterans co-op, most of Hard likely will not be a challenge.

And you might not be remotely challenged until near the end of the first playthrough or the DLC difficulty depending on how you progressed the RPG side and/or how many trials (heat) you've turned on.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by randomguy01542:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Ditch the party and play solo, that's the actual difficulty setting. Bosses in my opinion are not very good overall, but on my own I found them hard enough.

you can ditch npcs?

Yep, 'twas my first order of business. At the cubes, during party selection you can deselect everyone.

Originally posted by Zeek:

I guess it doesn't help playing co-op either. There was no balancing put in for friends playing as well I guess. Just one other friend, and we are one hitting most mobs and putting bosses to shame in less than 1 minute. We bought it to play co-op, but wanted a challenge, maybe we expected a bit much after playing Dark Souls games and other FF games. We kinda wish there was a step above this, with near one hit moves to keep us on our toes and a beefy boss that needs you to hit them enough times for them to get through all their move sets.

Solo on hard I had a much harder time that in any souls games and especially Nioh, but it was not the good kind of hard most of the time. When you are alone, the nook and crannies of the combat become very obvious and a lot of the challenge comes from bs. If you finish the game though, you unlock another difficulty. It is a team ninja tradition to have to finish the game a few times before unlocking the real difficulty.

[Griever]

I have a question.
Are you playing with controller or M&KB?
Because on PS5, I'm finding the game ridiculously hard on controller.

[Lahoo Eckbert]

It's just you.
Game is pretty hard. I'd say harder than Nioh 2 or Wo Long, two games I've played recently.
I'm comparing NG playthroughs. Can't say anything about NG+.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Lahoo Eckbert:

It's just you.
Game is pretty hard. I'd say harder than Nioh 2 or Wo Long, two games I've played recently.
I'm comparing NG playthroughs. Can't say anything about NG+.

Lol by comparison NIOH 2 was a much harder game.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Griever:

I have a question.
Are you playing with controller or M&KB?
Because on PS5, I'm finding the game ridiculously hard on controller.

Using an xbox controller. I'm assuming I'm nearing the end of the game at the moment, stuff is level 100+

[Zeek]

Final boss beaten, maybe Ninja dodge and Gambler Gun Spec OP? Gonna check out Chaos difficulty, have hope for the DLC stuff.

[Atom]

I mean if you're using Ninja's free 30 hit damage negation then yes the game is easy lol. That + ranged and spellcasters are kinda the game's easy mode regardless of difficulty. Once you unlock sage you can just build MP spam spells and then ultima, rinse and repeat.

Ronin/duelist are fun for technical play. Paladin/Knight are safe options as well. Knight of Destiny lets you play basically purely defensively, and you'll quickly inflict enough holy damage to hit enemies with holy weakness too.

Anyway bosses on bahamut and above get new movesets and increased aggression. Chaos bosses in DLC2 are basically completely different fights versus normal variants (think Savage vs. normal raids in FFXIV maybe as a point of comparison). You also unlock additional difficulty modifiers to make the game as hard as you it to be.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Atom:

I mean if you're using Ninja's free 30 hit damage negation then yes the game is easy lol. That + ranged and spellcasters are kinda the game's easy mode regardless of difficulty. Once you unlock sage you can just build MP spam spells and then ultima, rinse and repeat.

Ronin/duelist are fun for technical play. Paladin/Knight are safe options as well. Knight of Destiny lets you play basically purely defensively, and you'll quickly inflict enough holy damage to hit enemies with holy weakness too.

Anyway bosses on bahamut and above get new movesets and increased aggression. Chaos bosses in DLC2 are basically completely different fights versus normal variants (think Savage vs. normal raids in FFXIV maybe as a point of comparison). You also unlock additional difficulty modifiers to make the game as hard as you it to be.

Chaos mode starts to be pretty fun, the difficulty ramp of have 3 back to back bosses who are much more tankier are proving to be good. Trying various classes almost have them all maxed.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Originally posted by Lahoo Eckbert:

It's just you.
Game is pretty hard. I'd say harder than Nioh 2 or Wo Long, two games I've played recently.
I'm comparing NG playthroughs. Can't say anything about NG+.

Lol by comparison NIOH 2 was a much harder game.

I found bosses in this to be way harder that in Nioh 2. Not necessarily more challenging, just harder. Even playing very aggressively, parrying and countering everything, some of them were still 10 min long fights, where you can always get one-shotted by "grab" attacks with very dubious hitboxes.

Even if the boss itself is pathetic, give it a ton of health, have it spawn adds, have it teleport away every 3 hits you land, give it attacks that force the player to run around for 10 seconds to avoid them and boom, you turned it into a marathon. Then you give it two attacks that 1-shot the player, you know, for good measure.

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Originally posted by Zeek:

Lol by comparison NIOH 2 was a much harder game.

I found bosses in this to be way harder that in Nioh 2. Not necessarily more challenging, just harder. Even playing very aggressively, parrying and countering everything, some of them were still 10 min long fights, where you can always get one-shotted by "grab" attacks with very dubious hitboxes.

Even if the boss itself is pathetic, give it a ton of health, have it spawn adds, have it teleport away every 3 hits you land, give it attacks that force the player to run around for 10 seconds to avoid them and boom, you turned it into a marathon. Then you give it two attacks that 1-shot the player, you know, for good measure.

*laughs in Monster Hunter experience* You don't know what long and hard fight is.
Each boss seems to have some exploitable weakness which when ignored will make the fight a chore. Black Knight being best examples, if you won't steal his whirlwind, you're up for a bad time and long fight.