This or Nioh 2

[Rodrick]

Hey, They are both on sale. I know this is kinda a NIoh FF mashup. If I have time for one. Which one?

[Hanzo]

Both are actually good. If you like online I would pick Nioh2, because it seems more alive. If you are ok with solo game this one good. I've enjoyed Nioh2 more than this, but if you FF fan and like job system, this game also gives good worth for your money.

[Hel Spites]

That depends what you're looking for. They have similarities, but they're not really interchangeable. In nioh, You can have 2 melee weapons equipped at a time with customizable movesets. Each weapon gets 3 stances each of which plays very differently and have different uses, and you're expected to swap between them in combat as needed. The actual flow of combat is based on carefully managing your stamina in order to be able to attack, defend and dodge. Obviously, this'll bring up souls comparisons but I don't think it feels like souls much at all, and a big part of that is the stamina regen system. Basically, if you press a button with the right timing after you finish a combo, your character takes a breath, which restores most of the stamnia they used to attack, meaning that the game encourages you to be really aggressive, once you get into the flow of things.

Nioh's progression is a pretty free form, since you're mostly just putting points into stats to meet breakpoints for gear that you want to use. There's a diablo style gear grind, (which I personally don't like) with really REALLY ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ granular stats, so if you're into storting through loot piles to tweak your build, it's got plenty of that.

I've only got about 10-ish hours in SoP so take everything I say with a grain of salt, but SoP doesn't have stamnia. Instead its combat is focused on managing your MP and your break bar. You have customizble movesets in SoP just like in nioh, but your combo enders all take MP instead of stamina. Your break bar meanwhile, is your defensive gauge. It goes down every time you guard, parry or soul guard an enemy's attack. Unlike stamnia, MP doesn't regen on its own, it only regens if you attack an enemy. The MP bar is also pretty weird. It's not a fixed value. Your mp bar's max value goes up every time you soul guard an enemy's attack. Think of a soul guard as a higher stakes block. It takes more of your meter to pull off, and if you ♥♥♥♥ it up, you eat ♥♥♥♥ and die, but if you succeed, you restore your mp and your bar goes up temporarily.

This all comes together to give the game an almost turn based rhythm. You can't be on the offensive all the time or you'll run out of mp. You need to stop and soul guard some attacks. Enemies in SoP also don't stagger nearly as much as they do in nioh 2. When they're going to attack, they're GOING to attack, so you need to be more on the ball with your defensive moves.

Progression in SoP has the same hyper granular diablo style gear, but instead of putting points into stats, you're leveling discrete classes. You can use 2 classes at once, and each class has access to certain weapons and abilities, which means that leveling is a bit more restrictive, but since each class has unique abilities, you have more of a distinct identity than in Nioh. If you're playing the game as a pugilist, you're going to be playing very differently than you would as a warrior or a mage, while in nioh, those differences are a lot more murky.

Both are pretty great games, so go for whichever one of those sounds more appealing to you.

[Lu2]

both are good if you look for good action gameplay and mechanics . animations top notch .
everthing else is low budget . nioh 2 got sligtly bigger budget on enviroment

[Dregora]

While everything others have said is true, I do want to urge you to be aware that Stranger of Paradise has some finnicky optimization issues. While not as bad as on release, Nioh 2 is (now) the better optimized game.

So make sure you take note of that at least. Wo Long (another team ninja game made by the b team/not nioh team) had the same issues, sadly. But Wo Long is an inferior game overall, tbh.

Aside from the optimization issues, SoP is quite fantastic and does it's combat justice and they did the job system and what not very, very well. Combat is satisfying.

[F.U.D.F.]

Nioh 2 IMO

[Lu2]

Originally posted by Dregora:

While everything others have said is true, I do want to urge you to be aware that Stranger of Paradise has some finnicky optimization issues. While not as bad as on release, Nioh 2 is (now) the better optimized game.

So make sure you take note of that at least. Wo Long (another team ninja game made by the b team/not nioh team) had the same issues, sadly. But Wo Long is an inferior game overall, tbh.

Aside from the optimization issues, SoP is quite fantastic and does it's combat justice and they did the job system and what not very, very well. Combat is satisfying.

quite honestly this is best combat from latest ff. ff15 is bad , ff16 looks better but casual . dont me even get started on ff 13 . all these games tried real time hybrid combat and failed a lot . compared to dragon dogma or dark souls like

but team ninja combat is always great and super polished . i like how they aplying dmc-mgr revengence -ninja gaiden like super polished combat on rpg mechanics

this game have insane build varriety while combat always will look great if you know what are you doing

wish they spend more budget on enviroment and level layouts . it feels like 3d jrpg from ps 2 visualy sometimes . but nioh suffers from same thing . nioh 2 got bigger budget on this

[F.U.D.F.]

Originally posted by Lu2:

Originally posted by Dregora:

While everything others have said is true, I do want to urge you to be aware that Stranger of Paradise has some finnicky optimization issues. While not as bad as on release, Nioh 2 is (now) the better optimized game.

So make sure you take note of that at least. Wo Long (another team ninja game made by the b team/not nioh team) had the same issues, sadly. But Wo Long is an inferior game overall, tbh.

Aside from the optimization issues, SoP is quite fantastic and does it's combat justice and they did the job system and what not very, very well. Combat is satisfying.

quite honestly this is best combat from latest ff. ff15 is bad , ff16 looks better but casual . dont me even get started on ff 13 . all these games tried real time hybrid combat and failed a lot . compared to dragon dogma or dark souls like

but team ninja combat is always great and super polished . i like how they aplying dmc-mgr revengence -ninja gaiden like super polished combat on rpg mechanics

this game have insane build varriety while combat always will look great if you know what are you doing

wish they spend more budget on enviroment and level layouts . it feels like 3d jrpg from ps 2 visualy sometimes . but nioh suffers from same thing . nioh 2 got bigger budget on this

Have you played Nioh 2 and if that is the bar for good combat will I enjoy this final fantasy game?

[Lu2]

Originally posted by trenches ancelotti:

Originally posted by Lu2:

quite honestly this is best combat from latest ff. ff15 is bad , ff16 looks better but casual . dont me even get started on ff 13 . all these games tried real time hybrid combat and failed a lot . compared to dragon dogma or dark souls like

but team ninja combat is always great and super polished . i like how they aplying dmc-mgr revengence -ninja gaiden like super polished combat on rpg mechanics

this game have insane build varriety while combat always will look great if you know what are you doing

wish they spend more budget on enviroment and level layouts . it feels like 3d jrpg from ps 2 visualy sometimes . but nioh suffers from same thing . nioh 2 got bigger budget on this

Have you played Nioh 2 and if that is the bar for good combat will I enjoy this final fantasy game?

i would say its on par . just as good as nioh but mechanicaly quite diferent. animation is top notch

build varriety is insane how can you link moves and comands ,R2 abilitties is breath taking

game will punish you if you are passive just like nioh .

[la_nague]

I think Nioh 2 first, its the safer bet.

[F.U.D.F.]

Started to play Nioh 2 again. Not NG+ or anything just a new char.

IT IS SO FUN. IT DOESNT GET OLD.

[DooG Is Eternal]

Nioh 2 if you only have time for one.

Get both eventually, as both are fun in their own ways.

[Fomin]

Originally posted by Rodrick:

Hey, They are both on sale. I know this is kinda a NIoh FF mashup. If I have time for one. Which one?

Don't get Nioh if you want coop because they ruined the coop for that title by forcing you to do everything in single-player before you are allowed to do it in coop... with someone else who has already completed the same content in single-player.

Coop in Nioh serves only to allow people to relieve what they already did in single-player. This game lets you do just about everything except the opening tutorial and the walk around and talk to NPCs stuff in coop.

[shade00]

nioh series would say has a higher chance of being supremely tough
this game all the gear, job system and everything else gives you various options
nioh series gives you options but its meant to be very tough
heck the game can literally kill you off by falling some areas have cliffsides and spook portions or falling into water
atleast one boss can push you off a platform into death

nioh series you may be stuck on a level for awhile on most
this game seems like you can beat it in quicker time with allies in tow to help you handle the bosses and regular enemy's

nioh is an awesome series but its diff makes it pretty tough for those not ready
this game you can so far from what ive seen do pretty well with diff system and all the goodies you can find, job swapping and everything a large job/skill system

the simple this might be far easier for some
nioh series cranks up the diff a bit if your not use to its type of game

[Rodrick]

summer sale is done and I bought battlebits. THanks for the info everyone

[Lu2]

Originally posted by Fomin:

Originally posted by Rodrick:

Hey, They are both on sale. I know this is kinda a NIoh FF mashup. If I have time for one. Which one?

Don't get Nioh if you want coop because they ruined the coop for that title by forcing you to do everything in single-player before you are allowed to do it in coop... with someone else who has already completed the same content in single-player.

Coop in Nioh serves only to allow people to relieve what they already did in single-player. This game lets you do just about everything except the opening tutorial and the walk around and talk to NPCs stuff in coop.

if i rember correctly helping others will give you precious rare items for forging . it was always worthy to help strangers . it comes handy when eternal gear starts droping