Fertilizer overpowered?

[Guedez]

So far it seems the way you plant makes absolutely no difference. What you want is to pump out great fertilizer (at least 40~ all stats) and flood the rice, regardless of which state of growth it is. If it ends up causing a disease, just plop a anti-disease fertilizer.
It seems that with enough items, all rice farming techniques are useless and you should just focus on making the best fertilizer and maximize the rice fertilizer absorption (which seem to be about 66% water)

[phenir]

You need fertilizer to get stats from your rice but the way you grow your rice determines how much of those stats it absorbs. There is a reason there are scrolls dedicated to raising the rice in certain ways to maximize some stats. As an example, the aroma scroll says to leave the rice brown for max aroma. If you save before hulling the rice and check the difference between white rice and brown rice, it's 50% difference.

[Guedez]

What I mean is, changing how much water my rice got sure did change the stats it got the next day, but it was completely overshadowed by a mid tier 37~ across the board fertilizer I can put out most days. The bonuses from proper rice care seem to be completely overshadowed by fertilizers barely above 10 each stat.

Edit: I repeated the same day about 6~ times changing what and when i did things, and flooding the paddy with an below average fertilizer was better gains across the board than following any of the scrolls + the same fertilizer.

[Kamadecoco]

This post is making me feel like I've been playing the game wrong and wasting so much time stressing about parameters that didn't matter.

I gotta ask though, what's the maximum rice strength growth you've gotten from shirking the entire game's mechanics?

[Cat]

Does applying fertilizer each day give you more stat growth in the end or do you just apply it once and flood the field?

[Guedez]

Each day in the morning, put the best fertilizer you can. Save the game, and flood the paddy (my tests suggest 66% is the best 'fertilizer absorbing' water amount), test a couple of water levels and load back until you find the best one. I only ever did the test for the first stage and I saw great results, the other stages might have a different 'best water level for fertilizer absorbing'. (Edit: The save/load screen is great for measuring the effect of the fertilizer since it updates in real time, save a couple of test in different slots and just scroll through the results to check for the best one)

A fertilizer lasts 10 hours and you want the sun bright and shiny while the fertilizer is there. You should put the best fertilizer you can each morning for insane gains. I found it worth to pray every day for sun.

I am still unsure what/howmuch root/leaf/stem fertilizer matters and if there is a reason to not just pump as much as you can of all of it.

Following the scrolls do work and those tips actually do matter, but I feel that fertilizer is just way too OP and you can trivialize the farming through pumping great fertilizers. Never ever put more than 1 medicine base (that one that gives +25 all stats) per fertilizer, since you will run out of them eventually and it's more cost effective to use one for every single fertilizer than having just one good fertilizer, or so it seems so far.

[Wisefool]

I don't understand fertilizer. The game says only rice absorbs fertilizer.

So why do people say to dump fertilizer out over the winter? Does this not imply the fertilizer gains accumulate in the soil as it intuitively should?

[Guedez]

The root/leaf/stem part of the fertilizer should work during winter, although one can easily dump tons of it during the first fertilizer on the first day of spring, so I see no reason to bother fertilizing during winter.

[Quinn]

I actually did what you said about flooding the rice paddy and the stats for my rice in one day jumped an extra 200 points, I wasn't able to fully repeat it the following days as I suspect that after the seedling and first offshoots stage that technique starts playing a larger role. For example my aesthetic went up the highest out of all my stats while I was keeping the water level above 60% for most of it.

[Quinn]

Alright, so I found out the best way to do this is to fill you rice paddy up to 65% and not worry about water levels until you need to dehydrate for the third offshoots, this seems to offer the best fertilizer absorption. After that I'm not sure what the best water level is but technique at that point seems to be the most important step for what you want.

[VideoJones]

Maybe a stupid question, but where do you see the water level percentage? I feel like I'm completely missing it somehow.

Edit: Nevermind, I just got the skill.

[Sang]

wait, almost max out stat and I never know that water lv. relative to fertilizer absorb.
thank you

[Link117]

water level to how you plant may not effect the stats the same way as the fertilizer but platning not to close or far and keeping the water in check makes you get more seeds so its a need as more seeds more rice plants and if you get a tone just dump the whole pot of mud in when sorting to get better crops

idk but i keep my water in the spring at 15 and in summer at 25 geting good stats

[Azraile]

yah but what about the big stat gains at the end of the year?

You do a test to see how flooding at 65% do vs keeping it at 20%ish adgusting for heat overall.

Counting up your daily gains AND the end of the year gain on white rice?

[Azraile]

trying following this https://furudbat.github.io/sakuna_fertilizer_helper/#nav-spacing-circle-balanced one year going HEAVY fertalizer

Then using the same fertalizer do the same year doing your flooding and compair the two.

End of the year gains should win out over daily.