Perfect Chest Hunt

[MC_Cromwell]

I want to get some advice to do a perfect chest hunt, I did 4 perfect chest hunt in my first 200 attempts, but since then, I did 0 and I played nearly 1000 since that point. Even if I have 2-3% chance to slay a mimic without protection, I killed zero in this 1000 attempt. What should I try?

[Bavanity]

Publicado originalmente por Vex:

Publicado originalmente por Bavanity:

Chest hunt is a total scam. I plaid over 1000 games before I realise this.,

So... I don't like to encourage people to cheat, but I am honestly impressed with the amount of data you've gathered through your personal experience. Maybe you should look into that mod on Nexus that reveals the chest hunt stuff. If not to gather more information to better refine your theory (and prevent making a mistake by filing complaints that may not be factual), then maybe just for catharsis' sake.

Don't get me wrong, I fully get how the game seems to flip players the middle finger. I won't forget the time my Souls x40 Multiplier ended literally 2 seconds before reaching a bonus stage special portal. It just strikes me as odd to think that it was somehow intentional, rather than just bad luck (or more likely, poor gameplay on my part, as maybe I could've been more efficient with my speed boosting and got to the portal in time).

I didn't even know about the cheat, I was just about to disable cloud sync and do some virtual machine testing starting at the same chest hunt and choosing different boxes.

It's a non stop thing with the middle finger, yes, I have had 10 instances just today where for example the player literally lands on the chest hunt key just as the 0.00 timer disappears on the soul bonus, and same with bonus stages and cps boosts, etc.

After what I have been through, 230 hours since opening the armoury and spending all that money for boost and not one single excellent sword, I don't really care what the dev or anyone for that matter thinks of me. I know what I have played and have been taking various gameplay videos as well as compiling statistics.

So I will say what I think, which is, I truly believe the dev has some sort of narcissistic disorder where he gets off on people spending 250 hours on one unbeatable obstacle in his game - i truly believe he has masochistic tendencies with narcissistic personality disorder, and that's not defamation as it's my God't honest true opinion.

I honestly don't know how I haven't gone completely insane since unlocking the armoury, and every time I see a sword (every 20 to 30 bonus stages usually), I think, finally, this will be it, and nope, always the greatsword or the fire souls bonus one (I forget the name).

As said if I hadn't spent the money I would have been over the moon to never spend another minute on this again but it's too late now and I am 100 trillion from unlocking stone of rage and should have 12 US slayer points (will make 97, I might play on a bit to make it a neat 100) so I can UA with the rage stone and I am up to "abstract quests" so surely I must be somewhere towards endgame. I just need some divinity points to open the next Victor boss in bonus stage, the first one was dead easy, I still don't understand why so many online say it's so problematic. I got it on my second go, first one I had him almost depleted and was so close, but by the second go the pattern was easy to recognise. Not sure what next stage Victor will present. As far as equipment, I am about 170 of the staff, but these new enemies are just un killable with bow and even with sword. So I am hoping surely new weapons must be coming also....I have made a lovely control map with joy2key since I starred worrying I was damaging my laptop, and I use autofire and it's 1000 times easier than before. but even with autofire and the screen flooded with arrows, for example the highest barrels on the factory page just can't be killed and therefore souls are crap cause you need to weaken then slash.

Now if there really is a chest hunt cheat, I am going to bloody do it. I have 347 soul gems left, will spend 200 and do a 500x, seriously, so I can get a huge bonus. But maybe just a 25x lol to start with (10 gems) to make sure the cheat works. More than happy to use it after what i have been through.

The reason I say the above about the dev. Think about this, Someone has literally given him 7,70 AUD, just for the 60 gems for one upgrade to help get excellent armoury items, and he's OK with taking that, and he's coded the game in an FU way with it not paying out. Who does that but someone cruel and sadistic? Why wouldn't someone reasonable, code the thing the customer paid for to actually provide the statistic it claims? I have already proven the 10% to be BS as well as the 6%, as said, 99 armoury items and 1 excellent IS PROOF. percentages are taken out of 100, and that's what is a fair assessment.

I feel I have been taken for such a fool, I am furious and trying to hold it in when I type.

Anyway as said will talk to steam and Apple, show them the data/evidence, and I am more than willing to go to international small claims as well if that's what it comes to. I won't let this BS go.

PS I played another half hour since my post. Yep, did a massive chest hunt again and armoury was in final 3 boxes. AGAIN. 5 of the last 10 chest hunts. So now the new thing is it is saying FU again and not wanting to give me the 100th item. No bonus stages for hours now when it's usually driving me crazy with a purple box every 5 minutes. I can do all three stages with eyes closed, backwards by now. Seriously, how is that NOT effed up?

It's sick, it really is, so I have precisely ZERO issue if there is a cheat that will allow me to get some back of what I truly believe has been unjustly taken from me. I consider what has happened to be disingenuous AT BEST and theft at worst, because it's purposely done to take your money and pretend you are getting what you paid for but it's actually doing whatever it can to rip you off during 99.999999% of gameplay. It's incredible and in 44 years of gaming i have never known anything as dishonest as this game and the way it's coded to reward the player and have such wanton disregard for a customer's money. I am so disgusted about it all.

If I was wrong about chest hunt, then it wouldn't have an 100% ratio of giving me less with a massive souls multiple in play or massive CPS multi and never getting beyond a few boxes at most (100x souls multi on funky stage and I got 7b) instead of no multi (I usually get between 100b to 250b on funky, no multi, repeatable, usually never below 50b). That's proof as it's 100% of the time which is impossible statistically. He tipped his hand too much by being so brazen about it, well I am going to do something about it.

Steam, Apple, Australia fair trading/ombudsman/ cause it's not fit for purpose since the stats are a clear lie (and it's in the stats page of my own game LOL so it's not like he can deny it) and court if need be. I want gems replaced with HONEST chest hunt, simple, or refund, and definitely refund of materials 3% and excellent 4% boosts which have been nothing but a complete scam for me, and again, I have proof.

Edit, spelling only.

[Bavanity]

Edit, Just got my 100th Armoury item, another boreas longsword. Again, my stat page shows my excellent chance at 10%, and I have one excellent item of the 100, a shield, and over 90 swords and not one of them excellent, so I have been stuck on a simple tree thwacking quest for over 200 hours of gameplay now.

Even for the 100th the game couldn't bring itself to give one to me.

I'll be out of dragon scales again soon and at mercy of daily quests, this is ridiculous.

No matter what you think of myself or my comments about this game or anything else, that's not subjective, that's objective fact. This is ridiculous and absurd in every way.

So if that's not proof I don't know what is. Proof that the excellent boost purchases (the first one to 6 percent then the second one to 10%) are a complete and utter scam.

There are so many posts on steam about CH being rigged, I didn't realise this, note to self to check forums in future.

So others are definitely aware

BTW, to give you an example, I took statistics of 50 consecutive chest hunt games. In 40 of them, I selected a mimic directly after the X2 doubler, in 80% of those 40 games, there were more than half the chests on the board still (and even up to 25 or 26 chests in some games) and in maybe 20 of those 50 games, I selected TWO mimics in a row after the X2. That's statistically IMPOSSIBLE if not rigged. So dev has no right to present it as a legitimate game.
So in other words, because I had the shield for one, the second killed me every time. Always after the X2. Sure, without knowing what is underneath, that's just coincidence and statistically sound.
LOL
(sarcasm obviously).

Look, I play one free roulette a day - 11 wins, 13 losses. Even that. That's just the way this dev is and what he thinks is acceptable, but I am starting to think my excellent sword ordeal is impossible and something else is going on. Exactly what, I do not know yet.

I mean it's a free game (roulette), that provides an item drop that is need, and I have zero of them still (the little white camera looking thing). It's just beyond stupid at this point.,

If anyone has been done by this also and is interested in a class action, contact me. If there's more than say 3 of us, I'll do the leg work and investigate.

Even just my time after I paid for something that is supposed to give me a one in 10 chance, is a level of arrogance from a developer I have never experienced before, ever. To not just "ok this guy deserves one excellent sword now so he can progress, and he did pay for the boost, like, real money".

What a d*****b*g.

[Kuulintu]

I've kept statistics about mimics. If I get X2 multiplier, there's about 10% chance to get something other than a mimic after that. 9 times out of 10 it's a mimic chest. That simply can't be bad luck.

[Vex]

Publicado originalmente por Kuulintu:

I've kept statistics about mimics. If I get X2 multiplier, there's about 10% chance to get something other than a mimic after that. 9 times out of 10 it's a mimic chest. That simply can't be bad luck.

Kind of depends on when you get the multiplier, no?

If you get it on your first chest, I agree, it'd be impossible to get a mimic 9/10 afterwards. If its your 10th chest, and you haven't hit any mimics with your saver? Well, that's still happening too often, but it's less unlikely.

[BlazeToyz]

I've been clicking randomly on the chests for a while, and I couldn't get more than 5 boxes before I clicked two mimics. Repeat for 10, 20, 30 events. Same bull every time..
So I started trying picking ONE row that I start with every time. Same bull there too, I encountered two mimics in my starting row constantly.

What actually works (for me) is picking every other chest.
I always start in bottom left. Then I pick which ever chest is marked as a Saver. Then I continue clicking every other chest, towards the right along the bottom row. When I hit the end, I go up one column and pick every other chest going to the left. Then up one column, every other chest to the right.

This works a LOT better for me than just clicking randomly, which is strange. There shouldn't be a pattern that works. It SHOULD be random?

[gegeIII]

IT IS RANDOM

the mimic emplacement IS PREDETERMINATED when the minigame start (To confirm it, I tried the mod posted on NexusMod, and it's is able to tell you where are the 4 mimics as soon as the game start)

NO, the game don't hate you by making mimic appear where you clic the Xth time

NO, the game is not rigged

NO, what or where you clicked before don't influence if you'll got a mimic or not

NO, prayer or strategy will not bring you victory

If you win, you are extremly lucky,
If you lose, it's normal, there is FOUR MIMICS on thirty chest, probability to click on one is very high, and higher after each of yours click... that just normal probability to lose

it's purely depending of luck and random
it's the conclusion that any statistic should finally bring to you
...
Unless the statistics give you the locations where the mimics are most often generated ?
There, it could bring a viable strategy
(But I already bet these emplacement are purely random too)


Good Luck, Have Fun
as say the traditional formula :D

[tommy4K]

Publicado originalmente por gegeIII:

IT IS RANDOM

the mimic emplacement IS PREDETERMINATED when the minigame start (To confirm it, I tried the mod posted on NexusMod, and it's is able to tell you where are the 4 mimics as soon as the game start)

He is right, just tested it with the mod too.

[vxcorwinxv]

The only thing I've ever considered suspicious about the chest hunt mini game (which I assume would be debunked by trying out this mod that is brought up in this thread) is the x20/x22 multiplier boxes it reveals after you lose. I have 2254 chest hunts, perfect chest hunts 41, and I have literally never hit a "x20" or "x22" chest, yet, I have seen them so so sooo many times after a loss.

[tommy4K]

Publicado originalmente por vxcorwinxv:

The only thing I've ever considered suspicious about the chest hunt mini game (which I assume would be debunked by trying out this mod that is brought up in this thread) is the x20/x22 multiplier boxes it reveals after you lose. I have 2254 chest hunts, perfect chest hunts 41, and I have literally never hit a "x20" or "x22" chest, yet, I have seen them so so sooo many times after a loss.

i just had 9 perfect hunts, was paying attention specifically for x20 boxes since some time ago somebody was complaining they are never opened, and in this 9 attempts i indeed never opened one x20 box.