why no auto shoot for the bow?

[Bryan]

you use your sword automatically too, so why force people to use a autoclicker or spam leftclick/spam tap the screen on mobile, i mean you wanna be shooting the bow literally all the time anyways.

[Aegolius Funereus]

Because it's not an idle game.

[Bryan]

Originally posted by Aegolius Funereus:

Because it's not an idle game.

the game is called Idle Slayer

[Jerry]

Originally posted by Bryan:

i mean you wanna be shooting the bow literally all the time anyways.

Not quite true. There is a second main attack skill later on, called Wind Dash, that would clash with it.

Another factor to keep in mind is, that this game has to be usable for phone/tablet players as well, which might be the primary reason, why jumping and bow-shooting are linked actions. Autoshooting would either mean to unlink the two or to have the character permanently hopping, and while the latter is obviously a huge problem, the first has its pitfalls too.

[Razaah !!!!]

Originally posted by Jerry:

Originally posted by Bryan:

i mean you wanna be shooting the bow literally all the time anyways.

Not quite true. There is a second main attack skill later on, called Wind Dash, that would clash with it.

Another factor to keep in mind is, that this game has to be usable for phone/tablet players as well, which might be the primary reason, why jumping and bow-shooting are linked actions. Autoshooting would either mean to unlink the two or to have the character permanently hopping, and while the latter is obviously a huge problem, the first has its pitfalls too.

Or... make it toggleable. No need to overthink this.
Also isnt winddash kinda trash if youre not going for achievements ?

[Codester]

Originally posted by Razaah !!!!:

Originally posted by Jerry:

Not quite true. There is a second main attack skill later on, called Wind Dash, that would clash with it.

Another factor to keep in mind is, that this game has to be usable for phone/tablet players as well, which might be the primary reason, why jumping and bow-shooting are linked actions. Autoshooting would either mean to unlink the two or to have the character permanently hopping, and while the latter is obviously a huge problem, the first has its pitfalls too.

Or... make it toggleable. No need to overthink this.
Also isnt winddash kinda trash if youre not going for achievements ?

No?
The second you unlock wind dash divinities you will use wind dash 100% of the time and literally never turn it off. It makes your gameplay 3 times as fast and you can absolutely load up the entire screen with arrows. You don't use wind dash for SP gain, it's for mobility. Also, using it lowers your rage cool down timer as an added bonus.

[Razaah !!!!]

Ok but thats just in favor of arrows being shot automatically.

[Kryll]

Originally posted by Razaah !!!!:

Ok but thats just in favor of arrows being shot automatically.

Not really. Auto-shoot would have a massive draw back when it comes to rage mode and hoard events.
Getting hoard events when I'm trailing a ton of arrows with wind dash always upsets me because it kills off a bunch of the enemies. I'd get more souls killing those early enemies with rage mode than I would from the entire hoard with arrows.

[tommy4K]

Originally posted by Bryan:

you use your sword automatically too, so why force people to use a autoclicker or spam leftclick/spam tap the screen on mobile, i mean you wanna be shooting the bow literally all the time anyways.

bruuh huuh i have to play the game please give me a button to win instantly aaah gaawd. pathetic sort.

[Razaah !!!!]

Originally posted by Kryll:

Originally posted by Razaah !!!!:

Ok but thats just in favor of arrows being shot automatically.

Not really. Auto-shoot would have a massive draw back when it comes to rage mode and hoard events.
Getting hoard events when I'm trailing a ton of arrows with wind dash always upsets me because it kills off a bunch of the enemies. I'd get more souls killing those early enemies with rage mode than I would from the entire hoard with arrows.

Again. Make it toggleable or despawn arrows when you hit the rage mode button.
If you wanna spam your buttons or whatever toggle it off.
Everyone is happy.
smh.

Literally all it would take away is spamming your buttons or tapping your screen like a maniac.

Pretending that having to spam buttons somehow adds to the gameplay experience is just silly.
Can play fighting games if you so into mashing buttons.

[Bryan]

Originally posted by Razaah !!!!:

Originally posted by Kryll:

Not really. Auto-shoot would have a massive draw back when it comes to rage mode and hoard events.
Getting hoard events when I'm trailing a ton of arrows with wind dash always upsets me because it kills off a bunch of the enemies. I'd get more souls killing those early enemies with rage mode than I would from the entire hoard with arrows.

Again. Make it toggleable or despawn arrows when you hit the rage mode button.
If you wanna spam your buttons or whatever toggle it off.
Everyone is happy.
smh.

Literally all it would take away is spamming your buttons or tapping your screen like a maniac.

Pretending that having to spam buttons somehow adds to the gameplay experience is just silly.
Can play fighting games if you so into mashing buttons.

yes exactly that, i was talking about a toggle button from the very start (should have made that more obvious i guess my bad) it could simply be a bow symbol next to or above the sprint button (would work perfectly on both PC and mobile) and you can press it to just turn on or off the auto fire for bow. i think it would just make the game much better at no downside.

[Chronstell]

Originally posted by Bryan:

you use your sword automatically too, so why force people to use a autoclicker or spam leftclick/spam tap the screen on mobile, i mean you wanna be shooting the bow literally all the time anyways.

The dev won't give even the most requested basic QOL feature since ever, being able to lock certain upgrades from being bought with the "buy all upgrades" button. I swear Plab sees any form of automation to their game as blasphemy. Intensely frustrating.

[jcdenton666]

you have to jump to shoot, which involves skill. sure, that can be annoying sometimes, but it's a defining factor of the gameplay. would be extremely stupid if the character was jumping all the time instead of running. also, that clashes with boxes, which you can overjump... there's even an achievement for jumping from the top of a box. so yeah, autofire is not a valid option here

PS: and no, I would not want to be shooting my bow when I hit a monsters box and have rage mode unlocked...

[Bryan]

Originally posted by jcdenton666:

you have to jump to shoot, which involves skill. sure, that can be annoying sometimes, but it's a defining factor of the gameplay. would be extremely stupid if the character was jumping all the time instead of running. also, that clashes with boxes, which you can overjump... there's even an achievement for jumping from the top of a box. so yeah, autofire is not a valid option here

who says that the auto shoot button would make you jump what are you talking about?

its a button, you press it to auto fire the bow, you press it again to turn it off, if you wanna jump you leftclick tap the screen to jump.

a auto fire button for the bow does not conflict with the games controls in any way, adding it would simply make the game better at no downside.

[seally25]

Originally posted by Chronstell:

I swear Plab sees any form of automation to their game as blasphemy. Intensely frustrating.

I think part of this is due to how this game is monetized. The game is free-to-play, with the only source of revenue being from buying Jewels of Souls (and ad-removal if you also play on mobile), and player frustration could motivate some players to buy stuff. The dev's seeming attitude towards auto-clickers reflect that, since they allow people to sidestep that frustration somewhat, hence potentially reducing revenue.

As an aside, I do have to wonder how much the dev is earning from the temporary Jewels of Soul buffs.

[Chronstell]

Originally posted by seally25:

Originally posted by Chronstell:

I swear Plab sees any form of automation to their game as blasphemy. Intensely frustrating.

I think part of this is due to how this game is monetized. The game is free-to-play, with the only source of revenue being from buying Jewels of Souls (and ad-removal if you also play on mobile), and player frustration could motivate some players to buy stuff. The dev's seeming attitude towards auto-clickers reflect that, since they allow people to sidestep that frustration somewhat, hence potentially reducing revenue.

As an aside, I do have to wonder how much the dev is earning from the temporary Jewels of Soul buffs.

I can see this as an argument for autofiring bow suggestion here since the bow's soul bonus can rival that of Rage. In fact, at the point I am, my bow seems to give me slightly more souls than Rage does. I'd never turn it off. Not even for hoards.

However, for the QOL of just sealing off certain upgrades from being purchased with the "Purchase all Upgrades" button does not pertain to anything you can get with Jewels of Souls. You can't prevent anything from being purchased by that button, using real money or not. It's been requested for literal years by so many people. Someone asked for it in the Feedback channel in the discord again not even 2 weeks ago. They could probably make this feature a Jewel of Soul upgrade and make more money because of how wanted this feature would be.

On top of all that, talking about Autoclickers or Hotkey scripts in Discord can net you a warning or a ban. It's against the rules to discuss anything about it, at all. Automation seems to be the enemy of the developer, no matter how big or small.