it's an fps from 2004 how hard can it be

[steely111]

This game is insanely difficult so far, even on normal difficulty. I'm not complaining, at least not yet lol. For some reason the constant failures feel... fun? There's a feeling that I'm advancing a little bit further each time I try again, learning the AI, places I can hide, etc... Even though it's really hard the easy mode isn't that tempting.

I'm really interested in knowing whether this was a stand-out title for AI when it first came out. The controls are really nice and it's fun to have something like foliage serve a purpose in a game from 2004. No nostalgia here, it's actually fun. Just very hard :P

I'm still working on that opening scene where you steal the vehicle from the mercenaries. Last attempt I actually managed to get the vehicle. But then I died. Again. You know what it actually reminds me of? Those really old school games where just stepping in the wrong place brought instant death. It's frustrating in a way, but it also prompts frequent trial and error. "What will happen if I do this? Yeah this'll probably bring a game over but it's worth seeing the results."

Just some observations from very little gameplay, not even an hour yet. What I've seen so far left a pretty big impression.

[Kim Wexler]

I never understood how people can consider this game hard..

[steely111]

Originally posted by blood:

I never understood how people can consider this game hard..

Maybe the game isn't hard for you - everyone has different styles of games they either find easier or simply have more experience in. For me, personally, I find the AI difficult. The mercenaries seem to be really good at finding me and the damage they deal when working together isn't forgiving. I am just starting it, though. I just thought it would be fun to talk about my first impressions, haven't played a serious stealth game since Dishonored.

[merchantmudcrab]

The game is hard and some levels very hard but it is all doable. When you get into the vehicle the rest of the first level is meant to be driven trough until you reach the carrier.

Sometimes the save points are too far away from each other, otherwise this game is for people how want a challenge.

[Pure & Rustic]

The Steam version 1.4 is full of flaws. Install the 64-bit ver. 1.32. Has more content and some graphical improvement. You find it in the guide section.

You can have both versions and the saves can be played in both, depending on what you start up. Make a new profile for each difficulty you do, then you will have saves for them all, even if you start a new game in higher difficulty. Othervise they will be overwritten by your progress.

I had the game on DVD from 2004, but couldnt find it and bought the steam version. I realise quickly that this was not the same experience i had years back. After I installed the 64-bit ver. 1.32 everything fell in place. This game works on all win versions.

I have finished it on realistic 2 times and still go in and play some of the fav missions.

[SponGeBobtheAss]

yes , The game's even the simplest mode is difficult.

[BlackRayPlayer]

Being shot by enemies through walls. Enemies automatically detect you, and alerts everyone. Enemies can shoot at any direction even if they're not facing you. Stepping on a crate with no enemies automatically just f***ing kills you (At least that is what happened to me). Yet, a boat with rockets don't kill you when they blow up a vehicle you were in.

[PainkilleR]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/13520/discussions/0/1732087824994149014/#c1732087824994235487

[Antares]

Don't think that because it's a 2004 game, it's sh**... Old games are gold games.

And these fruit bats that say they're getting shot through walls need to wake up and smell the coffee. I've just completed Far Cry for the first time (painstakingly I might add...) and the only time I got shot at was being in a tent not behind a solid wall. Which actually makes realistic sense.

Having said that, it was the best FPS I've ever played. Made me buy Far Cry 2, I love it!

[findioth8r]

I played the original MANY times and then when it came out on Steam I played it quite a bit. I probably have 3K hours or more counting all versions. I had to reload my PC, upgraded the OS to Pro. Hadn't played FC for quite a while, at least a year. I installed and started off on easy because I'd seen comments (of course I researched before installing again to see if something had changed) about the difficulty. I've already died twice. One of them was my fault, hadn't changed the weap buttons to my usual and when I went to switch weaps to the pistol I ended up w. the knife. For some reason I can't stab anyone 50 feet away. Weird huh? It does seem more difficult even on Easy than it's ever been before, but I'm not complaining. I figure I'll go thru the entire franchise again. Haven't done that for a while.

[Pure & Rustic]

Originally posted by findioth8r:

I played the original MANY times and then when it came out on Steam I played it quite a bit. I probably have 3K hours or more counting all versions. I had to reload my PC, upgraded the OS to Pro. Hadn't played FC for quite a while, at least a year. I installed and started off on easy because I'd seen comments (of course I researched before installing again to see if something had changed) about the difficulty. I've already died twice. One of them was my fault, hadn't changed the weap buttons to my usual and when I went to switch weaps to the pistol I ended up w. the knife. For some reason I can't stab anyone 50 feet away. Weird huh? It does seem more difficult even on Easy than it's ever been before, but I'm not complaining. I figure I'll go thru the entire franchise again. Haven't done that for a while.

Do it. I have almost the same experience as you had.

I have the original 2004 game on dvd. Bought the game on steam yeras ago and figure that it had several flaws. I installed the 64-bit 1.32 version (search the guides) and the now the game was like i remember. I have 32 bit and 64-bit seperated and can play them both. I play it regulary on sertain mission i favor and I think i never will get tired of this game....

[erealms.1981]

Yeah, it is hard enough for those who have played farcry3 and newer. It is an oldschool game. It gives you a nice challenge. So, what's the problem then...

[lxRs451]

It is hard but manageable as long as you know how to approach certain battles. Using binoculars to know where enemies are and what kind of weapons they have is crucial. Also be careful and use a lot of cover.

[Tr0w]

I'd forgotten how good the AI could be in this game at times. While playing today i decided to crawl through a vent to flank some mercs. I shot one through the opening, another immediately took cover and held position while another ran all the way around, climbed into the vent and started shooting me in the back. I honestly can't think of another game off the top of my head where the human AI will actually crawl into vents to hunt you.

[Nutty Roach]

Originally posted by Spr1ggan:

I'd forgotten how good the AI could be in this game at times. While playing today i decided to crawl through a vent to flank some some mercs. I shot one through the opening, another immediately took cover and held position while another ran all the way around, climbed into the vent and started shooting me in the back. I honestly can't think of another game off the top of my head where the human AI will actually crawl into vents to hunt you.

Just shows how advance the game was for it's time.

[Sar]

I remember some reviewers bashing it for its difficulty. The game has a learning curve to it, there is some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but mostly it's legit challenge. The AI tries to converge on the position where it last seen or heard you, some will go there directly and some will flank, so don't be afraid to retreat. Use lean a lot when in cover, and when you aren't in cover - get in cover. Stay off the roads. Grass won't hide you but bushes should. I wish I could experience this game again for the first time, but I'm not sure I'd have the patience to learn it today.

Also seconding the x64 patch, get it!