Pharaoh: A New Era

Pharaoh: A New Era

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gamerlenny Dec 10, 2023 @ 11:57am
Kingdom rating drops for no reason - advisor gives wrong advice
There seems to be a problem with Kingdom rating calculation, at least in some of the missions.
In Djedu, I have fulfilled every single request almost immediately, my salary is 40 / month (the standard one for that level) and I have not been in debt for many years. Yet, the kingdom rating keeps dropping every year. It went up to about 60 or so thanks to the requests in the first years, and then kept dropping every year despite not doing anything wrong. At some point after finishing all the other objectives and never missing a request, my kingdom rating has tanked to 40.

The ratings advisor says my salary is too high and if I drop it my kingdom rating will raise somewhat. Both statements are wrong because my salary is the standard one for monarch and if I try to lower it, the kingdom rating still drops the following year anyway. Only lavish and generous gifts allow for it to rise again to 50 and win the mission, but for that I have to sacrifice almost all my personal savings. This never happened in previous misssions, and I don't think this is normal, the kingdom rating should not be dropping constantly like that unless there is a recurrent debt or requests are not fulfilled.
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darthblade Dec 24, 2023 @ 2:36pm 
same problem here
eatsoup Dec 25, 2023 @ 12:11pm 
That's how they made it in the remake, I guess by design, I don't see them changing any of that at this point.
In the OG the kingdom rating would tend to the value of 50 with each year, so if you were above it would drop, if you were below it would raise until 50, if nothing happened. In the remake, the neutral value it tends to is much lower, I didn't bother to find out what it is, maybe 10 or 20, so basically the rating will drop each year no matter what you do.
And you are correct, same as the culture advisor gives irrelevant information, the prosperity advisor doesn't tell people when they need to upgrade houses, the rating advisor gives useless information which is probably just leftovers from the OG where it was valid, but they didn't bother to implement in the remake. Salary does nothing to the rating as far as I could tell, you can set it 0, you can draw a Pharaoh salary, they just didn't write the code to affect the kingdom rating.
So, only things in this game that can raise the kingdom rating are requests (in most missions, not all of them), giving gifts or Ra blessings.
And even the debt anniversary probably does nothing, since it triggers every January without actually being for 12 months in debt.
Lots of stuff in the remake still, that look like they added it "for future development", problem is it doesn't look like there's a single line of code written to implement what the game says.
Morgan Terra Dec 29, 2023 @ 3:24am 
You need to have your personal house built for your salary to do anything to your kingdom rating. This makes sense; you don't actually earn a salary without it. It isn't clearly communicated though.
eatsoup Dec 29, 2023 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by Morgan Terra:
You need to have your personal house built for your salary to do anything to your kingdom rating. This makes sense; you don't actually earn a salary without it. It isn't clearly communicated though.
I don't think you understood what the OP is complaining about.
Morgan Terra Dec 29, 2023 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by eatsoup:
Originally posted by Morgan Terra:
You need to have your personal house built for your salary to do anything to your kingdom rating. This makes sense; you don't actually earn a salary without it. It isn't clearly communicated though.
I don't think you understood what the OP is complaining about.
How so? You see the exact problem OP describes if you don't build your house, if you try to affect your rating by using salary. What i'm suggesting could be the solution. His savings could have carried over from the previous missions.
gamerlenny Jan 16, 2024 @ 6:11am 
Originally posted by Morgan Terra:
How so? You see the exact problem OP describes if you don't build your house, if you try to affect your rating by using salary. What i'm suggesting could be the solution. His savings could have carried over from the previous missions.

I always build my personal mansion as soon as I have enough funds for it, the problems I am trying to point out are more about how the kingdom ratings is calculated and how it sometimes rises or drops rather inexplicably or inconsistenly.

I suppose eatsoup's first reply makes sense and you're actually expected to send gifts every year or try and get Ra's blessings to increase the rating or stop it from dropping. It's not such a big deal anyway, worst case scenario I have to wait a couple of years at max speed at the end of a mission to send a couple more gifts if I forgot to do it earlier.... TBH I don't really remember how I dealt with the kingdom rating in the OG, I just remember never having to really think about it to win a mission, even on very hard difficulty.

But after playing PANE some more, I still I find the behaviour of the kingdom rating to be rather inconsistent from one mission to another, in some missions like Djedu it keeps dropping if you don't send gifts or get Ra's blessings, and in others (Menat Khufu for instance) I just fullfill the requests and send a couple of gifts in the first years, then do nothing particular besides the requests and the rating goes up every year and reaches 100... without even trying...
Anyway thanks for the replies!
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