Prince of Persia: Warrior Within

Prince of Persia: Warrior Within

wetblues Oct 7, 2018 @ 5:56pm
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Why Warrior within is the worst in the original trilogy
1. Terrible and ridiculous backtracking: Sometimes it doesnt make sense if you are only playing it for the first time, most of the rooms look the same then throw in future and past versions and what you get is a lot of confusion if you take extended brakes from it.

2. Locking the true ending behind optional upgrades that no one would have know was important especially when the ending is so important for the series.

3. Platforming being irritating in the future because of limited colors. thankfully sandwraith.

4. Worst story amongst the three with no introduction to how the prince can rewind time without the dagger and how he got the medallion.

5. Boring boss fights like sands of time. Thankfully two thrones fixed this.

6. Unnecessary edginess and partial nuditiy



Pros.
1. Improving gameplay from sands of time.

2. Dahaka
Originally posted by everdimension:
Although I love the series, I would say there are definitely downsides to each part of the trilogy. And there are strong sides to each one as well.

The first part is a beautiful fairy-tale-like story surprisingly mixed with modern mechanics like slow motion and time-rewind. I still feel that the magic feeling of the first part is unique.

Warrior Within has a vastly improved fighting system which I enjoyed learning fully. I loved the setting and the island actually left an impression on me of something mysterious. While I don't generally like backtracking in games and I agree that it sometimes could feel exhausting here as well, I actually wish we had a change to discover the island and the fortress more. It has a feeling of something so very ancient and secret. I would really enjoy some kind of side quests which would allow to learn more about the fortress, the sands and the empress.
As for the story, it was interesting, yes, but it also felt too much like a hollywood story instead of an ancient fairy-tale.

But while I'm not surprised that people like Two Thrones, I always felt like it was a common agreement that it was the worst one. The story feels even more like a stack of hollywood cliches. E.g. split-personality, a villain which is about to reach immortality, etc... Also it had some really week plot points like killing Kaileena in the beginning simply because she didn't fit into the narrative. And she's supposed to be the "empress of time", remember? Killing her off like that is just a pathetic attempt to change the game's course, trying to revive sales.

Two Thrones had some really beautiful locations, but lots of graphic models were just awful. Visually it's definitely the worst game of the series. Some textures are just so bad that I can't understand how they allowed the game to be released. Also Farah's braid going through her body in a cutscene should've given people nightmares.
The game was also the most buggy one of the trilogy.


In general I just feel like the developers didn't have enough time to polish the sequels, both story-wise and gameplay-wise. It's a shame it happened that way. But I think it has to do with enormous success of the first game which the developers couldn't really understand and therefore couldn't really decide on the best course of action for the sequels.

Nevertheless each game left some very warm memories and I enjoyed replaying them all (least of all "two thrones", though) over the last 14 years or so.
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wetblues Dec 5, 2018 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Juke Nukem:
Originally posted by wetblues:
but thats the issue there, if we have to go to wiki for important story details, then clearly someone is at fault. Almost like a lot of story is missing in between sands and warrior wittin. they did the transtition from warriors to two thrones way better.

Yeah, I fully agree with you on that. It's a bad excuse if they have to explain something separately because as much sense as it makes, if it's not clear from the games themselves then it's all in vain. They did make Forgotten Sands to fill out the gap between SoT and WW though, but I didn't play it as it felt too much like a thinly veiled attempt to cash-in on people's sense of nostalgia and a way to try and erase the memory of the then recent PoP 2008 and make up for the disappointment it caused. (From the reviews I read it seems like I wasn't wrong.)

Still, I like this trilogy first and foremost as games (they also have a really nice story to go along but not without its faults), I think they are much better in this regard than the Assassin's Creed series which took their place.
You didnt miss much. It doesnt add much to help
mantas Dec 16, 2018 @ 9:38pm 
imagine browsing the home page of this classic and see this reddit tier garbage thread lol
wetblues Mar 4, 2019 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by fsociety00.dat:
Originally posted by wetblues:
Warrior within beautiful? hahaha. It is by far the ugliest prince of persia game in the modern era. I think the prince being slightly edgy is understandable given he is afraid and acting his worst but that doesnt excuse everything else being so edgy. All women are half naked, even the grunts try to act seductively which doesnt make sense since they are ninjas (i think), heavy metal doesnt suit the prince at all. The textures are so muddy and dark.
Gameplay wise it is great but with average grunts and terrible bosses (only sands is worse than it in this case).
The worst thing in my opinion is locking away the true ending behind 100% the game which makes no sense, like the cutscenes you get for not 100% the game is totally different which doesnt make sense by game design (100% you give you extra, not be totally different from what you got).

Two thrones was a vastly better game and the scores and sales justify that, I mean one reason I see people disliking it is because it reduced the edginess and nakedness which makes sense because there was no reason for that in two thrones
It is CERTAINLY beautiful. If you have no clue then just do not mention it. It has new (for its time) shaders, OK textures and great lighting system. Whereas ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Two Thrones looks worse than even Sands of Time because TT was ported to pathetic consoles.
Your whole point in OP about WW is utter garbage because it's just your subjective POV meanwhile audience truly enjoys WW as the best of PoP modern classics.
you are literally just stating you opinion so stop crying. Warrior within is ugly, especially compared to the rest.
wetblues Mar 4, 2019 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by fsociety00.dat:
Nobody is crying fella. The thing is that you have 0 facts, just emotions and unexplained towards WW. Perhaps it is too hard for a simp like you. WW is the most advanced amongst classic PoP in all aspects of game developing. So shove your pathetic anger and hateful tears down your bottom
Damn, you are really hurt
wetblues Mar 4, 2019 @ 9:18am 
Originally posted by fsociety00.dat:
Not at all. But you can think what you like.
Always admire such pathetic kids on the web
:steamhappy::steamhappy:
Juke Nukem Mar 4, 2019 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by fsociety00.dat:
Whereas ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Two Thrones looks worse than even Sands of Time because TT was ported to pathetic consoles.

All 3 games in the trilogy were originally developed for PS2 then ported to other platforms (PC included) so your reasoning is not only biased but factually incorrect. Besides I don't think T2T looks worse (what follows is obviously just my opinion), to me it's a mixture of the oriental feeling of SoT and the darker undertones of WW. I like all 3 exactly because they are different enough to have their own distinct personality, yet connected in a way that makes the whole experience a complete one. WW has a special place in my heart because of its Metroidvania-esque gameplay spanning multiple timelines, but that's not a good enough reason to diss on the other entries in the franchise, especially when all of them are objectively solid games in their own right.
Last edited by Juke Nukem; Mar 4, 2019 @ 9:20am
wetblues Mar 4, 2019 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Juke Nukem:
Originally posted by fsociety00.dat:
Whereas ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Two Thrones looks worse than even Sands of Time because TT was ported to pathetic consoles.

All 3 games in the trilogy were originally developed for PS2 then ported to other platforms (PC included) so your reasoning is not only biased but factually incorrect. Besides I don't think T2T looks worse (what follows is obviously just my opinion), to me it's a mixture of the oriental feeling of SoT and the darker undertones of WW. I like all 3 exactly because they are different enough to have their own distinct personality, yet connected in a way that makes the whole experience a complete one. WW has a special place in my heart because of its Metroidvania-esque gameplay spanning multiple timelines, but that's not a good enough reason to diss on the other entries in the franchise, especially when all of them are objectively solid games in their own right.
the kid doesnt understand what opinions are
wetblues Mar 4, 2019 @ 9:40am 
so edgy :steamhappy::steamhappy:
Useless Mar 5, 2019 @ 11:48pm 
Originally posted by wetblues:
1. Terrible and ridiculous backtracking: Sometimes it doesnt make sense if you are only playing it for the first time, most of the rooms look the same then throw in future and past versions and what you get is a lot of confusion if you take extended brakes from it.

2. Locking the true ending behind optional upgrades that no one would have know was important especially when the ending is so important for the series.

3. Platforming being irritating in the future because of limited colors. thankfully sandwraith.

4. Worst story amongst the three with no introduction to how the prince can rewind time without the dagger and how he got the medallion.

5. Boring boss fights like sands of time. Thankfully two thrones fixed this.

6. Unnecessary edginess and partial nuditiy



Pros.
1. Improving gameplay from sands of time.

2. Dahaka
He got the medallion in SoT when Farah dies at end and she Robs him of the dagger on the cave
wetblues Mar 6, 2019 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Extelia Burniern Kozmos:
Originally posted by wetblues:
1. Terrible and ridiculous backtracking: Sometimes it doesnt make sense if you are only playing it for the first time, most of the rooms look the same then throw in future and past versions and what you get is a lot of confusion if you take extended brakes from it.

2. Locking the true ending behind optional upgrades that no one would have know was important especially when the ending is so important for the series.

3. Platforming being irritating in the future because of limited colors. thankfully sandwraith.

4. Worst story amongst the three with no introduction to how the prince can rewind time without the dagger and how he got the medallion.

5. Boring boss fights like sands of time. Thankfully two thrones fixed this.

6. Unnecessary edginess and partial nuditiy



Pros.
1. Improving gameplay from sands of time.

2. Dahaka
He got the medallion in SoT when Farah dies at end and she Robs him of the dagger on the cave
But farah didnt die and he has the dagger at the end of the game. Still doesnt explain how he can rewind time
Useless Mar 6, 2019 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by wetblues:
Originally posted by Extelia Burniern Kozmos:
He got the medallion in SoT when Farah dies at end and she Robs him of the dagger on the cave
But farah didnt die and he has the dagger at the end of the game. Still doesnt explain how he can rewind time
the old man told him if he travels to the island of time he will be able to use the medalion. he doesn5 know he can use the medallion until he arrives there and its activated by the sands of time on the island. medalion is a stronger version of dagger
Useless Mar 6, 2019 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by wetblues:
Originally posted by Extelia Burniern Kozmos:
He got the medallion in SoT when Farah dies at end and she Robs him of the dagger on the cave
But farah didnt die and he has the dagger at the end of the game. Still doesnt explain how he can rewind time
farah steals dagger, leaves medallion, he takes it, she dies, he gets dagger back, grand rewind with medallion of dead farah
in my opinion its by far the best. i dumped a few hundred hours into this game back in the days.
Useless Mar 25, 2019 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by Nicooooo:
in my opinion its by far the best. i dumped a few hundred hours into this game back in the days.
Tbh as a ttt fan. I gotta agree. It's got diagonal platforming... It's the only game in the series to have that lol. And it's got blood. The only thing holding it back is the backtracking in early game
dprog1995 Apr 5, 2019 @ 11:02am 
The only problem that Warrior Within had were some bugs. Other than that imo it's the best out of POP trilogy.
Last edited by dprog1995; Apr 5, 2019 @ 11:02am
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