Lean angle limit on high speed

[hellboga]

In my opinion this game have good phisic but on large turn the bike wont lean over certain angle
Something like:
100kmh 55 degrees
200 kmh 48/46 d.
260 kmh 30 d.
My question is… why?!?

You can appreciated that on long steight and the largest turn on the nurburgring

[MotoGPfreak]

Very well implemented. In real life, you can't go down so deep, if you drive over 250 kmh. Gyro Forces:)

[hellboga]

Gyro force limit the agility of the bike, not the lean angle.
On the large turn (biassono) on monza track you can hit the apex at 230 kmh and exit on 270 kmh.
If you lean only 30 degree you probably hit the wall

[MotoGPfreak]

gyro forces make this impossible.not at high speed.so is that just:)Have you ever tried that in reality?believe me, over 200kmh a high inclination is not possible.

[hellboga]

I sure… you probably no.
I am an italian track day rider and on misano i experimented that some time
Moto gp rider take that apex at 250 kmh And 50 degree of lean
There are a lot of vodeo on yt to see that in totally safe.
You can see a rider in 200+ kmh turn on:
Misano adriatica
Monza (before 2016)
40% of the tourist trophy
nordschleife
And some other…

[Assault_VR46]

same here, i think agility of the bike (or rider in game lol) needs to be improved, on combined corners, the bike is just not responsive enough like in real life, feels like riding a hayabusa or ninja H2
as for high speed lean limit, it takes a very long, wide and kinda sharp corner to achieve that low angle at high speed. and bikes in game are certainly not gp bikes (max lean of road bikes are 55 approx)

[zomGod]

+1 on the responsiveness upgrade. But I don't agree with the lean angle disagreement. MotoGP bikes get very similar gyroscopic forces to a superbike, as does WSBK. Especially when the bike is highly modified like many in this game. Gyroscopic forces only limit responsiveness they have absolutely no effect on how deep you can lean. So it might take a longer corner to get there but his point was this game blocks it off entirely.

I'm not so sure the lean angles are too unrealistic given the tires and other constraints personally. Maybe a few degrees short but it wouldn't be a massive upgrade for accurate bikes I wouldn't think.

[MotoGPfreak]

maybe you have right. the game shows more and more bugs. the physics are crazy. the graphics are not fluent. we are waiting for an update. hopefully they will fix the game.