Interesting, but dunno, it must be really fun gameplay-wise to make me buy a game like this :x
If there is no story, just random hunting session, i don't think i'll enjoy all the brutality for free

I am excited for this game. I really hope we can get a SAW collaboration at some point since movie based games are usually all branding and 0 game play.

And for everyone butthurt about being able to torture in games and ♥♥♥♥. Look at TV shows that are on movie channels and ♥♥♥♥. They have rape, torture, pornography, serial killers, mental/physical abuse and some of them get praised for shining a light on the topic or whatever. But in a video game that is fiction with animated characters it's evil. "New" games get ♥♥♥♥ on for what Hollywood has been doing for decades and usually Hollywood has casualties with their productions. Like "celebrities" or higher ups in their daily life doing horrible things to each other and people they come in contact with. In a video game it's a team of hard working creator's making a story come to life, where a majority of the bad things happen in the digital world.

My view on life is if it doesn't directly harm yourself (technically) or other's around you, then why not? I say technically for yourself because if you want to take drugs in your own home and you are secure (not endangering anyone) then go for it.

Also I saw someone comment the game is not available in Germany. That's a no brainer. Germany's politics are absolute garbage. Let's erase history and censor the ♥♥♥♥ out of everything "offensive". I listen to Rammstein and they had to remove a song from their one album (the Germany edition) because it was technically sexually violent so the album could be sold on shelves in stores with that song on it. I believe a lot of good games (and probably other stuff) get butchered by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ putting restrictions on content from large companies to individual countries.

Big point between a movie and a game is: You'll be the one doing everything. That's why some people might enjoy watching it but not playing it.
Hence why i said, if there is no interesting gameplay, just free torture, abuse and gore, i may skip it.
But, of course, let's see. This is just a teaser. They still need to release Succubus and Paranoid, unless this Tormentor will be a very small and simplier game.

Originally posted by Bazsi:

Originally posted by Aristillus:

I am all for mature content in games, and for boundaries to be pushed, but let's not glorify or celebrate torture and killing by reducing them to acts of little consequence as a perspective in the minds of some players.

No offense, but if you watching a slasher movie, or a Hostel, what is all about the gore, and violence, and torture, what is the different? A sick horror movie is okay? (imo sure it is)

I mean some of the peoples are into romantic movies, or funny movies, and some of them are horror fan's. The game made for adult peoples, and im glad that some dev's makes adult games for adult peoples. We have enough censorship in the gaming industry, and good to see, that some of the developers dare to give us adult contents, like sexual themes, and gore.

Mortal Combat is a good example. The executions are extra brutal, and its overhyped. Why is legit in Mortal Combat, why not here? Also never understand why gaming industry is so against nudity, but killing thousend of people is absolutely okay. I dont want to be saved from adult content, i will save myself if i want to.

Because this time around, in a video game, you're in control. You decide what happens. It's basically you taking control of someone else's suffering and deciding how it will happen. Why it differs from movies compared to here, is because of that sole reason. When you're put into the control of the one inflicting pain, it gives a very personal level of connection to what is happening, where as in a movie, you're just a spectator, a watcher. Nothing more. You don't have any control and you know it's all just a pre-determined path.

In this game, however, you're a torturer, and you decide whether you pull someone's tooth out, or start stripping off pieces of their skin bit by bit to prolong the pain for as long as possible.

It differs from Mortal Kombat as well because MK is a game where it is, as you said, drastically over the top and beyond the realms of belief. After all, it contains characters with supernatural abilities and such. Plus, in MK, both characters are fighting back against one another, so the outcome is random for whoever wins. It's all down to player skill.

In this game, you're seemingly some kind of inhuman torturer (going by the bestial growls he made, that is) and you're torturing people who are tied to a chair, who have no power in fighting back. There was the part where it looked like it took a DBD path and allowed the victims to try and fight back against the torturer, but still, it seems to focus mostly and primarily on just causing harm for the sake of causing harm.

Not to mention the part with the customising your victims... That's going to open a whole other can of worms. For example, people will be able to re-create actual real people they don't like in real life into the game. An ex-girlfriend, a former husband, a boss who pisses you off, that member of the family who irritates you, etc...

This game does over step the line because it's about inflicting major suffering on characters that are all too human who have the ability to be made however the player wants.

I'm all for supporting these developers as I quite enjoyed Agony and am looking forward to Succubus, but those two games were deep into the realm of fantasy as they were dealing with supernatural aspects, and even then they dipped into the "too deep" end on some levels.

This game however? No, I feel this one is just that little bit too far.

Looks awesome. As others have stated, I hope you finish Succubus first, unless this is indeed a very small game (could be, if its not a big open world with a story). As for it being too much...come on..there are be the torturer games online in flash games etc.

Originally posted by GB1989:

Because this time around, in a video game, you're in control. You decide what happens. It's basically you taking control of someone else's suffering and deciding how it will happen. Why it differs from movies compared to here, is because of that sole reason. When you're put into the control of the one inflicting pain, it gives a very personal level of connection to what is happening, where as in a movie, you're just a spectator, a watcher. Nothing more. You don't have any control and you know it's all just a pre-determined path.

In this game, however, you're a torturer, and you decide whether you pull someone's tooth out, or start stripping off pieces of their skin bit by bit to prolong the pain for as long as possible.

It differs from Mortal Kombat as well because MK is a game where it is, as you said, drastically over the top and beyond the realms of belief. After all, it contains characters with supernatural abilities and such. Plus, in MK, both characters are fighting back against one another, so the outcome is random for whoever wins. It's all down to player skill.

In this game, you're seemingly some kind of inhuman torturer (going by the bestial growls he made, that is) and you're torturing people who are tied to a chair, who have no power in fighting back. There was the part where it looked like it took a DBD path and allowed the victims to try and fight back against the torturer, but still, it seems to focus mostly and primarily on just causing harm for the sake of causing harm.

Not to mention the part with the customising your victims... That's going to open a whole other can of worms. For example, people will be able to re-create actual real people they don't like in real life into the game. An ex-girlfriend, a former husband, a boss who pisses you off, that member of the family who irritates you, etc...

This game does over step the line because it's about inflicting major suffering on characters that are all too human who have the ability to be made however the player wants.

I'm all for supporting these developers as I quite enjoyed Agony and am looking forward to Succubus, but those two games were deep into the realm of fantasy as they were dealing with supernatural aspects, and even then they dipped into the "too deep" end on some levels.

This game however? No, I feel this one is just that little bit too far.

All what you said - it was really detaild, and polite - does not change the fact, that this is just a videogame.

Did you know Conan Exiles, and some of the RP community? They are torturing and rape peoples ingame - of course they have rules, and it is consensual -, make them slaves, etc. Still, its game, and it hurts noone... I mean, they are enjoy it... :D

Im glad that you shared your opinion with me, still i disagree, my opinion is that this is a game, if someone dont like it, the best is if they avoid it.

Have a nice day!

Originally posted by Bazsi:

Originally posted by GB1989:

Because this time around, in a video game, you're in control. You decide what happens. It's basically you taking control of someone else's suffering and deciding how it will happen. Why it differs from movies compared to here, is because of that sole reason. When you're put into the control of the one inflicting pain, it gives a very personal level of connection to what is happening, where as in a movie, you're just a spectator, a watcher. Nothing more. You don't have any control and you know it's all just a pre-determined path.

In this game, however, you're a torturer, and you decide whether you pull someone's tooth out, or start stripping off pieces of their skin bit by bit to prolong the pain for as long as possible.

It differs from Mortal Kombat as well because MK is a game where it is, as you said, drastically over the top and beyond the realms of belief. After all, it contains characters with supernatural abilities and such. Plus, in MK, both characters are fighting back against one another, so the outcome is random for whoever wins. It's all down to player skill.

In this game, you're seemingly some kind of inhuman torturer (going by the bestial growls he made, that is) and you're torturing people who are tied to a chair, who have no power in fighting back. There was the part where it looked like it took a DBD path and allowed the victims to try and fight back against the torturer, but still, it seems to focus mostly and primarily on just causing harm for the sake of causing harm.

Not to mention the part with the customising your victims... That's going to open a whole other can of worms. For example, people will be able to re-create actual real people they don't like in real life into the game. An ex-girlfriend, a former husband, a boss who pisses you off, that member of the family who irritates you, etc...

This game does over step the line because it's about inflicting major suffering on characters that are all too human who have the ability to be made however the player wants.

I'm all for supporting these developers as I quite enjoyed Agony and am looking forward to Succubus, but those two games were deep into the realm of fantasy as they were dealing with supernatural aspects, and even then they dipped into the "too deep" end on some levels.

This game however? No, I feel this one is just that little bit too far.

All what you said - it was really detaild, and polite - does not change the fact, that this is just a videogame.

Did you know Conan Exiles, and some of the RP community? They are torturing and rape peoples ingame - of course they have rules, and it is consensual -, make them slaves, etc. Still, its game, and it hurts noone... I mean, they are enjoy it... :D

Im glad that you shared your opinion with me, still i disagree, my opinion is that this is a game, if someone dont like it, the best is if they avoid it.

Have a nice day!

Of course, no need to be rude.

But again, just to point out why it's different is because the people who do what they do in Conan Exiles? That's modded. Something which is mostly out of the developers hands. This game is being made and advertised as literally torturing others. It will draw people in purely on the sole reason of simulating causing physical and emotional suffering to others. Where as Conan Exiles is a survival sandbox game which has been altered. Again, it's all just that bit too far with this game.

But it's okay to disagree. People have differing opinions, after all. :)

Dont like it dont buy it, let others that want to play it. You wouldnt like others to dictate what you play.

And conan, its different when its against a player or an npc.
There is far more troubling movies out there, why cry about a game?
Im looking forward to play this game, and yes i remember the flood of tears when hatred was released. And it isnt even that bad..

I appreciate differing opinions... After all, one can simply look at another perspective and learn something from it, such as with The Punisher and Manhunt creating past controversy, even though they were already aimed at a mature audience. They're just other video games where the player can interrogate, be the judge, jury, and executioner.

The short version:

However, whatever happens in a video game or even a movie stays within the material as it is shown. Movies typically rely on using a view of real humans getting challenged, tortured and brutally killed, such as what can be found in a SAW film. Violence including torture of humans is not something that should be left out from video games either, especially when violence is human history throughout societies worldwide (torture devices, executions, murders etc.) Regardless if a work is fictional or not, or if it renders realistically and has interaction or not, it's done as a form of entertainment. Torturing and killing a human in a video game is not physically harming a real human. Sometimes, the only boundary is your own mind and what you're willing to tolerate. It doesn't matter if it's a serial killer wearing a hockey mask or a monster tearing through flesh with claws, a violent video game is just a violent game. Even more, Tormentor is for a mature audience, so don't expect it to play nice.

The long version:

However, interaction or not, a movie and a video game are both forms of video-based entertainment. Some content deals with non-fiction, and some deals with fiction. There are times where the two are blended together. Video games most often rely on animated character models, and may even include voice acting. There are less common examples like the Mortal Kombat arcade games and Night Trap (which is more like a point and click movie), where the game characters are rendered as or actually appear as real humans.

Despite this, video games are still highly fiction, but even if they were not, whatever happens in a video game will stay in a video game, unless the player has a problem with it psychologically, so killing a virtual character for cash does not harm a real human or gets the player any real cash from it as a reward. The same goes for movies. Someone can feel the impact from a scene, but they can't actually get murdered by the killer in the film. Even when the video game player has to deal with interaction, that experience is still one that will be both watched and played with. Both movies and video game experiences can be engaged with mentally and emotionally, which can impact the audience in similar ways because they are both visual and listening experiences.

There will be some material that one individual can handle, and material the same individual does not handle too well. It's normal but to generally say that a video game has gone "too far" with violence because of things like "torture" is like saying a horror story has gone too far being a horror story, considering Tormentor is described just as that type of game. The player is in the role of the killer, which does not seem different than playing as Jason in Friday the 13th or a killer in Dead by Daylight, in which both games encourage the joy of claiming victims in the role of a killer, while other players control the victims. There is one difference though. Tormentor is going to be a singleplayer experience versus a multiplayer one, so it's not even encouraging players to kill other players online.

Violence in video games embraces human culture. It's about having fun and recognizing the many different ideas that can form entertaining experiences for audiences that are interested. It's only a matter of a question, how much of a horror experience are you willing to deal with? Horror is meant to create shock value and make you question it, so simply feeling unsettled is normal.

(Note: Like someone else said here about nudity, I was just thinking the same thing. All adult content should be treated as equal, and marketed specifically towards adults!)

Originally posted by GB1989:

Of course, no need to be rude.

But again, just to point out why it's different is because the people who do what they do in Conan Exiles? That's modded. Something which is mostly out of the developers hands. This game is being made and advertised as literally torturing others. It will draw people in purely on the sole reason of simulating causing physical and emotional suffering to others. Where as Conan Exiles is a survival sandbox game which has been altered. Again, it's all just that bit too far with this game.

But it's okay to disagree. People have differing opinions, after all. :)

It is really does not matter if developers or community makes content about slavery, torture, and rape. The point is the NEED. (some people like to be dominant, some want to be sub, the need is there on both side) And looks like the community need this kind of content.

Face it, everybody has some dark fantasy, some of us admint it, some not, but everybody has it. Its a fact. Like, if you ask your friends around you, who watch porn, 99% of the peoples will say "NOOOOO, never". Yeah, thats why porn is one of the biggest business in Earth... How could that be, if noone watch it? :)

I dont understand hipocracy about nudity, sexuality, or even this kind of games, coz in the other hand in other games killing millions is okay, or hurt peoples mentally in multiplayer games, when toxic players write in the chat "easy win" or worse. THIS literally can cause damage to other peoples, not a single player game, or even online RP game with consensual, but kinky elements.

But as you said, taste, statements, opinions are different. The need of this contents is real, only you can do - even tho i respect your opinion - to avoid it, if you dont like it.

Originally posted by Bazsi:

Originally posted by GB1989:

Of course, no need to be rude.

But again, just to point out why it's different is because the people who do what they do in Conan Exiles? That's modded. Something which is mostly out of the developers hands. This game is being made and advertised as literally torturing others. It will draw people in purely on the sole reason of simulating causing physical and emotional suffering to others. Where as Conan Exiles is a survival sandbox game which has been altered. Again, it's all just that bit too far with this game.

But it's okay to disagree. People have differing opinions, after all. :)

It is really does not matter if developers or community makes content about slavery, torture, and rape. The point is the NEED. (some people like to be dominant, some want to be sub, the need is there on both side) And looks like the community need this kind of content.

Face it, everybody has some dark fantasy, some of us admint it, some not, but everybody has it. Its a fact. Like, if you ask your friends around you, who watch porn, 99% of the peoples will say "NOOOOO, never". Yeah, thats why porn is one of the biggest business in Earth... How could that be, if noone watch it? :)

I dont understand hipocracy about nudity, sexuality, or even this kind of games, coz in the other hand in other games killing millions is okay, or hurt peoples mentally in multiplayer games, when toxic players write in the chat "easy win" or worse. THIS literally can cause damage to other peoples, not a single player game, or even online RP game with consensual, but kinky elements.

But as you said, taste, statements, opinions are different. The need of this contents is real, only you can do - even tho i respect your opinion - to avoid it, if you dont like it.

Oh, I do plan to avoid it. I was merely chipping in my two coins worth of views. And while you make valid points, I do have to disagree that everybody has a dark fantasy. Can't say I ever have had one myself. And to be honest, the question of porn? Most people I know would and have admitted to watching it. If you have people you know who deny it then you have some friends who are trying too hard to keep up a charade of innocence that doesn't exist, lol.

I mean, hell, I'm a 31 year old man and I've watched porn and still do from time to time when I feel a desire for it. As for dark fantasies though? Yeah, no.

I also agree that there's a huge level of hypocrisy when it comes to the content in games. I mean, hell, we've only seen in the past couple of years Steam itself open the flood gates for adult content and woosh, there's now ♥♥♥♥ tons of games themed solely around sexual and even pornographic content.

I have never believed games have triggered violence nor will I ever do so, but I just merely stated that the whole idea of being able to customise the victims you kill is kind of a step too far. I just remember the scene from GTA V where Trevor tortures the guy for intel and I won't lie, it's an unsettling part of the game.

Is violence, sexual content and everything in between needed in entertainment media? No. Is it wanted? Yes. That much is evident. But yeah, I feel this game is going too far. Even bar my own standards, which are pretty easy going.

Originally posted by Tedd:

Dont like it dont buy it, let others that want to play it. You wouldnt like others to dictate what you play.

And conan, its different when its against a player or an npc.
There is far more troubling movies out there, why cry about a game? :snowflake:
Im looking forward to play this game, and yes i remember the flood of tears when hatred was released. And it isnt even that bad..

1 - I never set out to try and stop people from buying it, merely stated my opinion.
2 - I never dictated anything nor did I try to.
3 - Not sure what you meant with the Conan stuff. Don't see how it's different regardless of controlled NPC or other players.
4 - Plenty of other people have given opinions about those troubling movies, just like I am with this game. :3
5 - Glad you're looking forward to it, hope you have fun!
6 - No one cares about Hatred.
And lastly 7 - You need to grow up a little. XD Your reply was so unnecessarily hostile, Jesus... There's always one who can't help themselves, lol!

Originally posted by DarkVampireKain19:

I appreciate differing opinions... After all, one can simply look at another perspective and learn something from it, such as with The Punisher and Manhunt creating past controversy, even though they were already aimed at a mature audience. They're just other video games where the player can interrogate, be the judge, jury, and executioner.

The short version:

However, whatever happens in a video game or even a movie stays within the material as it is shown. Movies typically rely on using a view of real humans getting challenged, tortured and brutally killed, such as what can be found in a SAW film. Violence including torture of humans is not something that should be left out from video games either, especially when violence is human history throughout societies worldwide (torture devices, executions, murders etc.) Regardless if a work is fictional or not, or if it renders realistically and has interaction or not, it's done as a form of entertainment. Torturing and killing a human in a video game is not physically harming a real human. Sometimes, the only boundary is your own mind and what you're willing to tolerate. It doesn't matter if it's a serial killer wearing a hockey mask or a monster tearing through flesh with claws, a violent video game is just a violent game. Even more, Tormentor is for a mature audience, so don't expect it to play nice.

The long version:

However, interaction or not, a movie and a video game are both forms of video-based entertainment. Some content deals with non-fiction, and some deals with fiction. There are times where the two are blended together. Video games most often rely on animated character models, and may even include voice acting. There are less common examples like the Mortal Kombat arcade games and Night Trap (which is more like a point and click movie), where the game characters are rendered as or actually appear as real humans.

Despite this, video games are still highly fiction, but even if they were not, whatever happens in a video game will stay in a video game, unless the player has a problem with it psychologically, so killing a virtual character for cash does not harm a real human or gets the player any real cash from it as a reward. The same goes for movies. Someone can feel the impact from a scene, but they can't actually get murdered by the killer in the film. Even when the video game player has to deal with interaction, that experience is still one that will be both watched and played with. Both movies and video game experiences can be engaged with mentally and emotionally, which can impact the audience in similar ways because they are both visual and listening experiences.

There will be some material that one individual can handle, and material the same individual does not handle too well. It's normal but to generally say that a video game has gone "too far" with violence because of things like "torture" is like saying a horror story has gone too far being a horror story, considering Tormentor is described just as that type of game. The player is in the role of the killer, which does not seem different than playing as Jason in Friday the 13th or a killer in Dead by Daylight, in which both games encourage the joy of claiming victims in the role of a killer, while other players control the victims. There is one difference though. Tormentor is going to be a singleplayer experience versus a multiplayer one, so it's not even encouraging players to kill other players online.

Violence in video games embraces human culture. It's about having fun and recognizing the many different ideas that can form entertaining experiences for audiences that are interested. It's only a matter of a question, how much of a horror experience are you willing to deal with? Horror is meant to create shock value and make you question it, so simply feeling unsettled is normal.

(Note: Like someone else said here about nudity, I was just thinking the same thing. All adult content should be treated as equal, and marketed specifically towards adults!)

You make some very valid and interesting points. I can't lie, it was interesting to read what you wrote.

But I'm curious, what's you're view on the idea then that people can customize the victims? Because that was my original point of taking it too far. Like I said, this opens up the door of people creating the likeness of real life people in the game. Everybody has people they don't get along with or even hate. But I would never desire to watch them be tortured and killed. But I am sure there are people who would do such a thing with this game. That is just what I feel is the risky part of the game which is going to make it an issue.

And this is a genuine question as well.

Originally posted by GB1989:

Oh, I do plan to avoid it. I was merely chipping in my two coins worth of views. And while you make valid points, I do have to disagree that everybody has a dark fantasy. Can't say I ever have had one myself. And to be honest, the question of porn? Most people I know would and have admitted to watching it. If you have people you know who deny it then you have some friends who are trying too hard to keep up a charade of innocence that doesn't exist, lol.

I mean, hell, I'm a 31 year old man and I've watched porn and still do from time to time when I feel a desire for it. As for dark fantasies though? Yeah, no.

I also agree that there's a huge level of hypocrisy when it comes to the content in games. I mean, hell, we've only seen in the past couple of years Steam itself open the flood gates for adult content and woosh, there's now ♥♥♥♥ tons of games themed solely around sexual and even pornographic content.

I have never believed games have triggered violence nor will I ever do so, but I just merely stated that the whole idea of being able to customise the victims you kill is kind of a step too far. I just remember the scene from GTA V where Trevor tortures the guy for intel and I won't lie, it's an unsettling part of the game.

Is violence, sexual content and everything in between needed in entertainment media? No. Is it wanted? Yes. That much is evident. But yeah, I feel this game is going too far. Even bar my own standards, which are pretty easy going.

Thank you for sharing your toughts, i see your point of view. We are different peoples with different opinions, also different limits/border. Thats all.

Have a nice evening!

Originally posted by Bazsi:

Thank you for sharing your toughts, i see your point of view. We are different peoples with different opinions, also different limits/border. Thats all.

Have a nice evening!

No problem. Always fun to chat to others and hear their thoughts. :) Have a good one yourself!