RuneScape
Morgus 2022년 5월 14일 오전 5시 54분
Membership Paywall
Why is everything locked behind a membership in this game?

Like something as simple as making a better fireplace in my "house" is locked behind a member account...
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Xaphnir 2022년 5월 14일 오전 7시 29분 
Think of F2P more as a demo
Scheneighnay 2022년 5월 14일 오전 11시 49분 
Free players couldn't have houses period up until a few years ago.

It's a good system to reduce the impact of bots.
Look at full-f2p games like Lost Ark and see the bot swarms destroying the economy. In Runescape most of the content is off-limits to them, so they only sink the price of inconsequential materials.
Xaphnir 2022년 5월 14일 오전 11시 56분 
Scheneighnay님이 먼저 게시:
It's a good system to reduce the impact of bots.
Look at full-f2p games like Lost Ark and see the bot swarms destroying the economy. In Runescape most of the content is off-limits to them, so they only sink the price of inconsequential materials.

Nah, there are plenty of bots in members, and they're not making inconsequential things. Not as many as there'd be if everything was F2P, and certainly not like it was back in the day, but still quite a few. Some notable places to see some pretty obvious ones are at the incandescent wisp colony, at Edgeville runecrafting through the abyss, and in the Sophanem slayer dungeon.
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Bigguss Dickuss 2022년 5월 14일 오후 12시 47분 
sounds you like you never played RS2. The membership makes sense for this game and a few rare others.
Matt & the Cat 2022년 5월 15일 오전 2시 13분 
Scheneighnay님이 먼저 게시:
Free players couldn't have houses period up until a few years ago.

It's a good system to reduce the impact of bots.
Look at full-f2p games like Lost Ark and see the bot swarms destroying the economy. In Runescape most of the content is off-limits to them, so they only sink the price of inconsequential materials.
Early runescape was filled with bots and we still feel the effects on the economy today. There are still bots hanging around just not as many.

I remember world 84 living rock caverns, something like 1000+ bots
Xaphnir 2022년 5월 15일 오전 9시 12분 
Deku_Scrub0님이 먼저 게시:
I remember world 84 living rock caverns, something like 1000+ bots

Back in 2010 you had to spend 10+ minutes world hopping just to find a spot for your slayer task that wasn't overrun with bots. Sometimes even then you couldn't because literally every spot on every world was taken by multiple bots.
Scheneighnay 2022년 5월 15일 오후 12시 01분 
Your Friend Hana님이 먼저 게시:
Who knows.:s_down: Why would a company want you to purchase their product. Who knows.:s_up:
welcome to the era of games where free players think they're entitled to everything without paying.
Phantom 2022년 5월 16일 오후 2시 53분 
Jagex wants money so yeah
Scheneighnay님이 먼저 게시:
Your Friend Hana님이 먼저 게시:
Who knows.:s_down: Why would a company want you to purchase their product. Who knows.:s_up:
welcome to the era of games where free players think they're entitled to everything without paying.
THIS FREE GAME HAS STUFF I HAVE CAN CHOOSE TO PAY FOR?! THE AUDACITY :steamsalty:
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Morgus 2022년 5월 17일 오전 8시 40분 
7crackerunicorn님이 먼저 게시:
Scheneighnay님이 먼저 게시:
welcome to the era of games where free players think they're entitled to everything without paying.
THIS FREE GAME HAS STUFF I HAVE CAN CHOOSE TO PAY FOR?! THE AUDACITY :steamsalty:

A "Free to Play" game that has like 10% of the game available that is actually free, the rest is behind a membership.

The point in this post was to say that there is a membership that unlocks the remaining 90% of the game but is labelled as a "Free to Play" - more Free to demo.
RandomTurtle 2022년 5월 17일 오전 9시 10분 
Morgus님이 먼저 게시:
more Free to demo.

Not going to argue with that. To be honest the Steam tags are unreliable. I've seen PvP games labelled Co-Op just because you can play with friends on your team. Similarly the tag here apples to the fact you can download and play the game in some capacity. Or might even be referring to being able to buy membership with in-game currency.

This is a demo for the full version. But the main key thing is you can keep your account when you upgrade. It allows you to work out if the game is for you before getting membership.

There is also the method of getting membership for free although quite a bit harder. You can buy a "bond" from the "Grand Exchange" but those cost an amount of money a new player would struggle to get together. Once you have membership earning money in game to get another bond to keep membership is easier but still a challenge until you've done enough quests/levelling skills to unlock areas with better quality stuff to sell.

So technically this game is free to play as long as someone else is buying bonds with money and selling them for in game money, which I'm sure people will do. A person can in theory maintain membership for free.

However like all free to play games, there are hidden costs and MTX that will rope people in. The subscription price is something that has always been, but other MTX include Bonds, Runecoins and Treasure hunter keys. Which are "In game currency", "Cosmetics" and "XP loot crates" respectively.

Trying to progress as Free to Play would be hard as you'd constantly need to farm gold for bonds and is definitely not the route to take. Paying for membership is the best value in terms of MTX as it frees up your time to be able to play the game instead of "Have to spend X hours doing Y to get 50mil within Z days".

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TL;DR: The game can be Free to Play but the game will be a lot more difficult and time-consuming where you have little choice over what you need to do to progress, and will be constantly rushed to progress on a 14 day cycle (which can be increased to 45 day cycle).
Jake 🦇 2022년 5월 22일 오후 11시 58분 
You're ready for members when you can fund it with bonds from F2P. ;)
Lady A 2022년 5월 23일 오후 8시 18분 
There's honestly so much to do that's free I haven't even begun to worry about a membership. And when I run out of free stuff, I'm sure I'll be happy to help fund a game that's so well played and loved by many. The devs work hard and I appreciate the ability to have as much f2p to do as we have here.
az4a3l 2022년 5월 24일 오후 1시 57분 
Thats an interesting point, might we discuss it while i trim your armor?

Fishing lvs?? * wave*
Beewo 2022년 5월 25일 오전 9시 36분 
az4a3l님이 먼저 게시:
Thats an interesting point, might we discuss it while i trim your armor?

Fishing lvs?? * wave*

You trimming it for free? What a deal, here take mine.
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