what is the point in prayers?

[killj0yy]

like the title says ...what is the point if they DON'T protect you.

tried fight caves 5 times now and every time i'm out of food/heals by round 40 ....taking constant 600 hits right through prayer during every mage/ranger ....not sustainable ...tried supers , tried sharks , tried mage setup , tried ranged setup

i'm 77 range / 74 magic , b-dhide set , full subjegation set ...at this point it's just not worth the time anymore to even try.....

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

well the only enemys that should hit you are the big mage dogs with 360 combat and jad the rest can be pulled in a way where they cant reach you

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

also auras are a pretty easy way to get through vampirism especially

[Tomcat]

You should look up a guide on how to do fight caves in rs3.

Prayers reduce dmg but it's not the only thing you need to account for. But it's going to be crazy lengthy and I'm probably not the best person to ask since the days when I was low level was a decade ago.

[Orochi Samurai]

This is literally a case of being inexperienced at pvm, I can almost guarantee that your combat abilities are in some funky order that is punishing your damage potential, along with the fact you probably aren't making use of your defensive abilities such as Debilitate, Devotion, Resonance or even Freedom.

D-hide armour is awful for this type of PVM content, it's not Power Armour, and it's defensive stats are low enough that any melee class enemy is gonna mess you up entirely AND if you're carrying both a full set of Subjugation, Dragon Hide and weapons for the respective styles, it's no surprise you ate struggling with inventory management.

You also failed to mention what weapon tier you are using, while for an experienced player, the Fight Caves can be easily completed in Lunar Armour with a Guthix Staff, it's highly recommended that you use a minimum of a tier 75 weapon (Vanquish) or the tier 78 Sunspear, failing these two you could also use the tier 70 Ahrim Staff or Tier 80 Chaotic Staff (assuming you're using magic).

And as Troja mentioned, depending on how much bossing you have done so far, the Vampyrism Aura is only 5000 marks of war and will help you immensely here.

Whether you are an old school player coming ro rs3, or a returning player from long ago where protection prayers used to eat 100% of the damage coming towards you, the game has evolved and changes a lot since then, and you MUST appreciate how much prayer would trivialise combat in the modern game if it behaved as it used to (100% protection) every boss would be an absolute joke and combat would feel almost risk less and even pointless to an extent.

Spitting the dummy and giving up isn't going to help in any way, shape or form, practice, ask for help, look up a guide, use the wiki to it's fullest extent, there is a reason that the RS3 wiki is officially supported by the developers, even to the point that they literally have a /wiki command AND a wiki search button built right into the chat box, use it, it will help you.

[killj0yy]

Originally posted by Orochi Samurai:

This is literally a case of being inexperienced at pvm, I can almost guarantee that your combat abilities are in some funky order that is punishing your damage potential, along with the fact you probably aren't making use of your defensive abilities such as Debilitate, Devotion, Resonance or even Freedom.

D-hide armour is awful for this type of PVM content, it's not Power Armour, and it's defensive stats are low enough that any melee class enemy is gonna mess you up entirely AND if you're carrying both a full set of Subjugation, Dragon Hide and weapons for the respective styles, it's no surprise you ate struggling with inventory management.

You also failed to mention what weapon tier you are using, while for an experienced player, the Fight Caves can be easily completed in Lunar Armour with a Guthix Staff, it's highly recommended that you use a minimum of a tier 75 weapon (Vanquish) or the tier 78 Sunspear, failing these two you could also use the tier 70 Ahrim Staff or Tier 80 Chaotic Staff (assuming you're using magic).

And as Troja mentioned, depending on how much bossing you have done so far, the Vampyrism Aura is only 5000 marks of war and will help you immensely here.

Whether you are an old school player coming ro rs3, or a returning player from long ago where protection prayers used to eat 100% of the damage coming towards you, the game has evolved and changes a lot since then, and you MUST appreciate how much prayer would trivialise combat in the modern game if it behaved as it used to (100% protection) every boss would be an absolute joke and combat would feel almost risk less and even pointless to an extent.

Spitting the dummy and giving up isn't going to help in any way, shape or form, practice, ask for help, look up a guide, use the wiki to it's fullest extent, there is a reason that the RS3 wiki is officially supported by the developers, even to the point that they literally have a /wiki command AND a wiki search button built right into the chat box, use it, it will help you.

i am currently lvl 100 , i have no problem keeping prayer points going , i've used crystal bow/crystal wand , have no problem with my damage quite often hitting 2.5-3k (without damage boosting pots) i also safe spot all melee'ers , prayer switches bound also , reinforced slayer helm (i read in a few places this is useful) and no i don't carry both sets i use ONE set and i've tried both range and magic only runs .....no matter what i do i'm almost constantly taking 5-600 damage from the rangers/mages with prayer on , little to no melee damage at all and the birds are a non issue

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

then i dont understand why you have such a problem with it how is your inventory structured?

[⎝⎝💚TOͥNͣNͫY💚⎠⎠]

Try and get Ancient Curses before attempting that. Might make your life easier. Soul split helps stay alive.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝💚TonnyTayYT💚⎠⎞:

Try and get Ancient Curses before attempting that. Might make your life easier. Soul split helps stay alive.

curses are complett overkill for the normal fightcaves

[⎝⎝💚TOͥNͣNͫY💚⎠⎠]

Originally posted by Troja:

Originally posted by ⎛⎝💚TonnyTayYT💚⎠⎞:

Try and get Ancient Curses before attempting that. Might make your life easier. Soul split helps stay alive.

curses are complett overkill for the normal fightcaves

but if he is having trouble staying alive it may help if he doesn't want to use the obsidian equipment.

[Tommy Wiseau]

I havent done FC in awhile but prayers dont block 100% just partial. (I think) you have to block certain monsters so they cant attack you, and you should be praying magic all the time once the 360 mages show up, the only dam you should be taking is mele and ranged.

[Sckullie]

I'm a pretty good Pvm player. Maxed, maxed gear ect...

If you're still looking for help hit me up i can give you pointers.