Banned 5 months ago for botting, never knew because I don't even play RS3 lol

[Harvest]

Got banned five months ago. The reason why I'm saying this now instead of then is because I don't even play this crappy version much less bot in it.

Jagex has incredibly weak security and bot management and has been infested with gold sellers and bots since its inception. They have a "Genius Irrefutable AI" that will ban anyone bot or otherwise at any time. This is the SECOND time this has happened in the last 2 years.

The worst thing is how cocky they are. They don't work on innocent until proven guilty or even guilty until proven innocent. its "Guilty because we know, we have our methods and we know what you did" Oh I bet, and with all the bots running around at this very moment large enough to be a quarter cut of the player base.

Maybe my account was stolen and actually used for botting? Maybe, but that is just a whole other issue to demonstrate the incompetence. I know account stealing is rampant in this game and I can assure you I'm not doing anything stupid with my information. I have never ever lost a mmo account for even a moment aside from this game and twice in a year.

Edit: Forgot to mention this is actually the second time this has happened. I was banned back in 2014 for "Macroing" and Honestly didn't even know because I quit playing runescape back in early highschool way before that. Appealed for my account in 2020 even though It was "A major ban they were certain I did" They unbanned me anyways saying that "After all this time they're sure I've learned my lesson and read the rules" only to be banned the next year for the same ♥♥♥♥ I already quit RS3 a month or so into 2020 and definetly quit when osrs came to steam when I saw what the game turned into so I dunno how I could've even been there to bot anything..

Play it if you want but I'm warning ya'll but don't buy anything.... Your account can and will be compromised and nothing you buy is certain to be retained your password and information is hung like clothes out to dry in jagex's hands.

[XcypherX]

Nguyên văn bởi The Weeb Eater:

Nguyên văn bởi XcypherX:

then you need to write them but if you never played it then why be bothered by it i could care less if it was me.

I sent an appeal in the guise of a different problem. But how to a talk to someone officially? They seem quite arrogant with their fingers in their ears over appeals they're "certain about"

I don't entirely care about the account problem. I came here to voice a concern on the only platform I can, if I got my account back, I still wouldn't play it but I know some people here do care about their accounts and would be even more devastated if it happened to them.

there use to be other ways of trying to get accounts back but i dont think they are possible anymore. but like i said in the first post the new owner can care less what players are going through.

[KingJacko]

Nguyên văn bởi The Weeb Eater:

Nguyên văn bởi KingJacko:

You're just as sure of your statements as you think Jagex is of banning players, with the same amount of proof, yet you only see a problem in one of those situations. Okayyyyyy...

I don't even understand what you mean by that. I just said be aware that ownership of your account and keeping the things you invest in are especially fragile with this company in particular. They are just as bad at dealing with bad actors in their game as they are at keeping your account safe from them.

I'm saying you are upset Jagex is so sure of banning players with little proof. Well, you are just as sure of that exact statement: Jagex is banning players with little proof, and you have just as little proof as you think they do. But, you only have a problem with jumping to conclusions when Jagex (supposedly) does it.

[Harvest]

Nguyên văn bởi KingJacko:

I'm saying you are upset Jagex is so sure of banning players with little proof. Well, you are just as sure of that exact statement: Jagex is banning players with little proof, and you have just as little proof as you think they do. But, you only have a problem with jumping to conclusions when Jagex (supposedly) does it.

Sure I don't have as great 'proof' as the 'oh so efficient' jagex method they refuse to disclose. But I also have the evidence of limited probable cause. Look at my steam for the game, Less then 28 hours. Look at my achievements, Barely anything. If I -was- botting. What would I be botting??? I haven't done anything of value at all. I have one screenshot of the game showing of 13 years of being a upstanding player. why would I turn 13 years away to bot in a game I've barely played only to make barely any progress doing it..

Now look at my OSRS profile. 200+ hours, way more achivements. I'm clearly a OSRS player and if I was the kind to bot wouldn't it make more sense that I'd be botting there in the game I -actually- play? I'd have a harder time defending that case and honestly that terrifies me because I love Osrs and I work stupid amounts of hours grinding now knowing at any moment all my work can disappear with some kangaroo court accusations from jagex I can't defend.

[Zach]

Nguyên văn bởi The Weeb Eater:

Nguyên văn bởi Deku_Scrub0:

Authenticator your steam and runescape account. Quit watching pr0n.

Nguyên văn bởi glue sniffer:

account was likely hijacked and used to bot or gold farm. I'd suggest next time you use 2fa and have a strong password on your rs account, steam account, email.

Okay.. My Steam is 2fa and according to them there hasn't been any weird logins from anywhere else. But you don't need steam to log into a account that's linked to steam? Can you not log in using other methods on jagex's side?

Nguyên văn bởi XcypherX:

The account that was banned was my first one ever, from middle school, 13 years running. If I was to become a botter do you think I would jeopardise such a sentimental account? For the crappy version of RS? A crapper version I have yet to play more then https://i.imgur.com/tuwdBMS.png 28 hours on? If this was a good game I'd have much more hours on you'd have more probable cause but why the hell would I bot RS3.

You can log into an account through the regular rs client. The accounts made these days are using an email for the sign-in while legacy accounts used a display name which was depreciated in 2010.

[KingJacko]

Nguyên văn bởi The Weeb Eater:

Nguyên văn bởi KingJacko:

I'm saying you are upset Jagex is so sure of banning players with little proof. Well, you are just as sure of that exact statement: Jagex is banning players with little proof, and you have just as little proof as you think they do. But, you only have a problem with jumping to conclusions when Jagex (supposedly) does it.

Sure I don't have as great 'proof' as the 'oh so efficient' jagex method they refuse to disclose. But I also have the evidence of limited probable cause. Look at my steam for the game, Less then 28 hours. Look at my achievements, Barely anything. If I -was- botting. What would I be botting??? I haven't done anything of value at all. I have one screenshot of the game showing of 13 years of being a upstanding player. why would I turn 13 years away to bot in a game I've barely played only to make barely any progress doing it..

Now look at my OSRS profile. 200+ hours, way more achivements. I'm clearly a OSRS player and if I was the kind to bot wouldn't it make more sense that I'd be botting there in the game I -actually- play? I'd have a harder time defending that case and honestly that terrifies me because I love Osrs and I work stupid amounts of hours grinding now knowing at any moment all my work can disappear with some kangaroo court accusations from jagex I can't defend.

First of all, it doesn't matter why you wouldn't have done something there was solid proof you did do it. Secondly, you were probably hacked.

[Harvest]

Nguyên văn bởi KingJacko:

First of all, it doesn't matter why you wouldn't have done something there was solid proof you did do it. Secondly, you were probably hacked.

What solid proof? Their word against mine? They never show the 'proof' just some "Super good auto detection method that is so good at its job that there is more Bots running around in f2p then actual players. and that is exactly what a kangaroo court is. Tried and convicted without any trial or chance to appeal.
And even if I was hacked and they botted on my account. I can't even appeal that either. There is no salvation even for someone in that situation either.

This kinda ♥♥♥♥ is what makes people turn to botting and hacking. Because honestly the only downside to being a hacker or a botter is the risk of being banned for it. But if upstanding players are getting banned anyways for nothing then what's the point of not hacking?

[Matt & the Cat]

You got macro software?

[KingJacko]

of course you can't just say you were hacked and get off the hook. Everybody would turn to botting.

[Harvest]

Nguyên văn bởi KingJacko:

of course you can't just say you were hacked and get off the hook. Everybody would turn to botting.

The guy with nearly 1000 hours of rs3 rising up to defend them through any justification is the definition of a fanboy.
Look, even you can probably agree that there is a larger then minimal possibility that some people might actually be innocent? Even if they were hacked, even if they didn't bot. Even if the company was compromised again... Mistakes happen but what I'm trying to say is that its dickish and dangerous that the company has this ego that they can never be wrong and if they get you its absolutely your doing.

You should be allowed to appeal, talk to a person, maybe they can check your log in at time of accuse and see that for some reason your mysteriously logging in from Venezuela instead of the states as soon as they detect you botting. All I'm saying is let people appeal. If I could I would and if you want to keep stanning for Jagex whatever, but I wouldn't be asking for a trial if I actually hacked would I?

[KingJacko]

i don't care even a little bit about defending Jagex, I'm just pointing out some things. Also, Jagex doesn't look into it probably to save money, not 'just cos'

While it would be nice if they did, they do have a company to run. Botting and hacking happens all the time (especially on osrs), they'd be opening themselves up to a huge cost

[Harvest]

Nguyên văn bởi KingJacko:

i don't care even a little bit about defending Jagex, I'm just pointing out some things. Also, Jagex doesn't look into it probably to save money, not 'just cos'

While it would be nice if they did, they do have a company to run. Botting and hacking happens all the time (especially on osrs), they'd be opening themselves up to a huge cost

Sure, I can understand that sentiment. Then if they can't afford to manage appeals and their bot detection isn't absolutely perfect. There will be people who will be abused. right now If I was hacked and my account was used for botting. I can't even appeal that.

Neglect like that is what makes botters cause the only thing I've gathered from this is that If I ever play again I might as well bot since being an upstanding player is not only a net negative but doesn't actually ensure I wont just be hacked or accused like a criminal anyways.

[KingJacko]

why play at all if you're just going to bot? You won't get any satisfaction. And anyways, put all the security protections on your account so you don't get hacked

[Zell]

I don't know how dumb you think Jagex is but they can see login IPs and they can trace those IPs and bypass the VPNs. It's not hard to do, even a script kiddie can do it. If you got banned for botting then you got banned for botting, simply put. You ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, you're wrong. They have flagged IP's that are known bot portals. Whether you logged in or didn't, they will know when something goes wrong.

[Harvest]

Nguyên văn bởi 🎀 Yara 🎀:

I don't know how dumb you think Jagex is but they can see login IPs and they can trace those IPs and bypass the VPNs. It's not hard to do, even a script kiddie can do it. If you got banned for botting then you got banned for botting, simply put. You ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, you're wrong. They have flagged IP's that are known bot portals. Whether you logged in or didn't, they will know when something goes wrong.

Found the peak simp. Look, Jagex is kind of dumb and certainly not tracing IPs and bypassing vpns. If they were I wouldn't have been banned once they found the Venezuelan dude who was using my account. Besides, if they were tracing the IPs of people who cheat and I cheated, why am I still playing osrs on this same computer just fine?

People like you with this level of ass-kissing is what allows companies to be as caress as they want knowing simps will dive in to defend them any corner.

[Harvest]

Nguyên văn bởi KingJacko:

why play at all if you're just going to bot? You won't get any satisfaction. And anyways, put all the security protections on your account so you don't get hacked

I'm just mad I spent money on RS3 and its all gone because of jagex's fragile security. I've had that account for 13 damn years and with no issue with my account until I start to seriously play it as an adult and have something worth stealing. 2fa doesn't ensure anything, Jagex security doesn't ensure anything. This post was a PSA that if you want to play this game. Be aware of the L you can take at any time.