Would consider if they removed subscription and made buy to own like other MMOs

[丂卩ㄖㄖ几ㄚ 丂卂ㄩㄥ]

In this age several modern MMOS have adopted this strategy. It would be better if Jagex scrapped the subscription model.

[Yournewstepmom]

The grandfathered price is still worth it, granted you have that option. A few years ago the monthly payment went up, in my opinion too much. Those who didn't cut their subscription when the payment plans went up at least 2-4 dollars a month were grandfathered, (same payment amount per month) while the rest were forced to hand over an extra bit. I'm sure that grandfathering is still happening to users who haven't cut their subscriptions.
A majority of players play the game via Bond so it's almost like a subscription doesn't exist. Because the Bond system works so well the game will never be 'one time' purchase with extendable DLC content. The Membership is the 'DLC'.

[BuzzardBee]

For those not eligible for the grandfathered rate, the premier packages do offer a nice discount. But honestly, those buy to own MMOs the OP is referring to have many drawbacks of their own as well. I know, I've tried them, gave up and them and was extremely grateful that I'd never let go of my original sub to Runescape since 2008.

If you still feel like RS isn't worth it, that's entirely your choice and opinion. What's odd though is if you were to make such a decision based solely on price without even giving the game itself a chance. But that's your prerogative.

[丂卩ㄖㄖ几ㄚ 丂卂ㄩㄥ]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

For those not eligible for the grandfathered rate, the premier packages do offer a nice discount. But honestly, those buy to own MMOs the OP is referring to have many drawbacks of their own as well. I know, I've tried them, gave up and them and was extremely grateful that I'd never let go of my original sub to Runescape since 2008.

If you still feel like RS isn't worth it, that's entirely your choice and opinion. What's odd though is if you were to make such a decision based solely on price without even giving the game itself a chance. But that's your prerogative.

I did actually I was a member like 15 years ago. Back then it was worth it. Now I have been spoiled by too many games of high quality which makes me rethink to pay the membership fees.

[BuzzardBee]

I never gave up my membership even though I took a few months here and there whenever other games came out. I always came back to the game even though I was vehemently opposed to EoC when it was first introduced. The overhaul to xp which essentially was just adding a damn zero to end of every attack made was ludicrous at the time. But I stuck with it. When OSRS came out, I tried it but was so spoiled by RS3 that I could no longer take the old version seriously.

I have played WoW and several other MMORPGs but found them lacking in so many ways. You never seem to end paying for things. Beyond a subscription AND paying for the game itself, you pay for each new expansion and pay for access to areas and I often find myself having to rely on other players for assistance, not because I need it but because the content demands it. Of course, I've never had the sort of luck that means I could find that help when I needed it. My requests would often fall on deaf ears. They'd already done that content and had no interest in helping a new player to get past it and so I'd uninstall the game and return to RS3 knowing that my sub would include every part of the game and I could play it on my own and on my own terms as well.

I suppose a great deal of it has to do with the fact that I'm still only paying $5/month and that I'll remain grandfathered in at that price for now. That may change at some point in the future, given whichever investment firm ends up owning Jagex next. When that time comes, I'll probably say goodbye to the game unless the premier discount makes it worth sticking around. But I still have a ton to do in the game. I've maxed all skills to 99 and a few to 120. I'm still working on Farming, Herblore and Slayer to 120 but they're each getting closer. I've begun learning to do some bosses and started completing some logs. In short, I'm working on the end-game content now and there's still new things being added to the game. And all for that same $5/month.

[Apathetic]

i cant think of to many mmo's that are buy and not members
ESO has membership for DLC areas or buy the DLC
and i dont know lots about black desert but i know everyone iv talked to that bought it including me said it was not the game for them.

but like then really really popular games like
WoW
FFXIV
they are both pay to play AND you need to buy them.

seeing as runescape sits in the middle where you can play 30% ish of the game without membership id say membership is fair.

[Apathetic]

Originally posted by Apathetic:

i cant think of to many mmo's that are buy and not members
ESO has membership for DLC areas or buy the DLC
and i dont know lots about black desert but i know everyone iv talked to that bought it including me said it was not the game for them.

but like then really really popular games like
WoW
FFXIV
they are both pay to play AND you need to buy them.

seeing as runescape sits in the middle where you can play 30% ish of the game without membership id say membership is fair.

other games like guildwars and old republic i also know almost nothing about

[Snowskeeper]

Originally posted by Apathetic:

Originally posted by Apathetic:

i cant think of to many mmo's that are buy and not members
ESO has membership for DLC areas or buy the DLC
and i dont know lots about black desert but i know everyone iv talked to that bought it including me said it was not the game for them.

but like then really really popular games like
WoW
FFXIV
they are both pay to play AND you need to buy them.

seeing as runescape sits in the middle where you can play 30% ish of the game without membership id say membership is fair.

other games like guildwars and old republic i also know almost nothing about

SWTOR is not buy to own. It's free to play, with a host of restrictions on your account if you don't sub. These restrictions only make the game deeply annoying at base level, but they make it virtually unplayable once you get near the end of the game.

Back to Runescape, for what it's worth, once you get up to a reasonably high level it's trivially easy to pay for your own membership with in-game money. The only issue is actually getting to that point.

[Apathetic]

Originally posted by Snowskeeper:

Originally posted by Apathetic:

other games like guildwars and old republic i also know almost nothing about

SWTOR is not buy to own. It's free to play, with a host of restrictions on your account if you don't sub. These restrictions only make the game deeply annoying at base level, but they make it virtually unplayable once you get near the end of the game.

Back to Runescape, for what it's worth, once you get up to a reasonably high level it's trivially easy to pay for your own membership with in-game money. The only issue is actually getting to that point.

eh atm paying for member is like 33m a bond but you wait a bit for the members club deal to go away it takes 22m for a bond the big thing is getting members for the first time. If you get base 70 stats and then become a member bond or through real cash its easy to maintain its tedious but can be done with ease.

for example as a member Buying runes is 2,138,000 a day
2,138,000 x 14 days is 29,932,000 with shop runs alone you can upkeep membership and this only takes around 20-30min a day [ for all shop not just rune shops]

and keep in mind thats only 1 of the ways you can make daily money and keep membership for free.

[Snowskeeper]

Bonds tend to hang out around 27m, in my experience. Otherwise, yeah, I agree. The main issue is getting enough money to start making more money, and then investing enough time to unlock the more profitable skilling options. I tend to do Grenwalls in Anachronia, b/c they're completely risk-free and I can watch something in another browser while I do them, but that's locked behind the achievement diary quiver reward and 80+ hunter.

[KeepersWay]

You can get prepaid cards for cheap at key sites if you really trying to some some money think its like 3 or 4 dollars per month, you won't get any loyalty points if you use these though.

[YouTube.com/StoneLegion]

The bond system and the monthly subscription is actually something that keeps the content flowing. Basically bonds are a big part of the economy in game from being able to get cosmetics to pay your membership and other features. As much as I'm pouring real life I would hate for them to go to a buy system because I know they would just even put more microtransactions in. I'd rather they focus on content and rely more on subscription in fact I wouldn't mind it being an MMORPG average subscription cost if they could increase their content throughput and less of their microtransactions.

[Krytern]

Originally posted by Apathetic:

Originally posted by Snowskeeper:

SWTOR is not buy to own. It's free to play, with a host of restrictions on your account if you don't sub. These restrictions only make the game deeply annoying at base level, but they make it virtually unplayable once you get near the end of the game.

Back to Runescape, for what it's worth, once you get up to a reasonably high level it's trivially easy to pay for your own membership with in-game money. The only issue is actually getting to that point.

eh atm paying for member is like 33m a bond but you wait a bit for the members club deal to go away it takes 22m for a bond the big thing is getting members for the first time. If you get base 70 stats and then become a member bond or through real cash its easy to maintain its tedious but can be done with ease.

for example as a member Buying runes is 2,138,000 a day
2,138,000 x 14 days is 29,932,000 with shop runs alone you can upkeep membership and this only takes around 20-30min a day [ for all shop not just rune shops]

and keep in mind thats only 1 of the ways you can make daily money and keep membership for free.

"Only" 30 minutes a day? That means 3 hours and 30 minutes a week. Look at the cost of membership, look at how much money you can earn from work in 3 hours and 30 mins. Not worth it.

[Helghast Trooper]

The subscription model this game has can be used pretty much for free.. if you had to buy the game then u HAVE to put money in it, i have over 1500 skill points atm and i never used IRL money for membership always ingame GP, so it is pretty generous imo.

[Snowskeeper]

Originally posted by Krytern:

"Only" 30 minutes a day? That means 3 hours and 30 minutes a week. Look at the cost of membership, look at how much money you can earn from work in 3 hours and 30 mins. Not worth it.

I mean. I don't think anyone is implying that this is ideal. But it's something you can do with a relatively low-level character. And given the whole idea of buying bonds with GP is to avoid spending IRL money, I'm not sure "how much money could you make working for three hours and thirty minutes" is a valid point of comparison.

[Apathetic]

Originally posted by Krytern:

Originally posted by Apathetic:

eh atm paying for member is like 33m a bond but you wait a bit for the members club deal to go away it takes 22m for a bond the big thing is getting members for the first time. If you get base 70 stats and then become a member bond or through real cash its easy to maintain its tedious but can be done with ease.

for example as a member Buying runes is 2,138,000 a day
2,138,000 x 14 days is 29,932,000 with shop runs alone you can upkeep membership and this only takes around 20-30min a day [ for all shop not just rune shops]

and keep in mind thats only 1 of the ways you can make daily money and keep membership for free.

"Only" 30 minutes a day? That means 3 hours and 30 minutes a week. Look at the cost of membership, look at how much money you can earn from work in 3 hours and 30 mins. Not worth it.

lol then go get a job
"if you dont have one"
and buy it with money

30 min a day is like the worst do clue scrolls and you can get enough for a bond in 1 hour of easy clues.