Middle click mouse wheel to control camera = Dumb AF!

[Wesleypipes77]

This whole middle mouse button to control the camera is pretty annoying. I'm sure I'm far from the first person to want right click + hold instead, you know like any other game in the history of gaming? I don't see any option to change it, why the devs would force you into this with no way to change it is beyond me. Is there a third party mod or any way whatsoever to change this setting, it's bad enough to me it might wind up being a deal breaker on playing this game that I'm pretty sure I would enjoy just fine otherwise.

[Amygdala]

You can just use WASD to move the camera

[Wesleypipes77]

Originally posted by Amygdala:

You can just use WASD to move the camera

Yeah but that's 4 directional locked controls as well so not as smooth and unintuitive as well leaving your camera control to feel rather clunky no matter which method available you end up using. I'm not sure how much being able to swing the camera around smoothly and accurately will affect gameplay when you're in the heat of combat or maybe running from a mob etc.. I'd imagine that definitely comes into play though.
It's the same thing in OSRS as well but you can change it to right click using Runelite and it's so much better. There's obviously enough demand for the feature that it was included as a modded option so I don't understand why Jagex would ignore implementing such a simple adjustment. If they won't do it I was hoping there might at least be some other way, I don't know if there are mods available for RS3 like there are for OSRS or not.

[Friendly]

Personally I have just made one of my extra mouse buttons act as the middle mouse press.

[Jesus Christ]

Having to use one button over is a deal breaker?

[Wesleypipes77]

Originally posted by Dargsy Wargon:

Having to use one button over is a deal breaker?

You're not going to use your index finger because you need that one on the left click pretty much all the time so having to lift your middle finger off of the right mouse button where it sits perfectly comfortable to either push down your mousewheel with the second joint down instead of the tip of your finger or put your hand in some weird uncomfortable claw position that makes it harder to comfortably click the L button with your index in order to be able to use the tip of your finger on the mouse wheel as well as try not to uninintentionally zoom in or out and at the same time and control the camera with your hand in an uncomfortable position every single time you want to do so, when you could simply click the right button where your middle finger is already perfectly positioned to do so. It's like the antithesis of the definition of ergonomic. In other words making things more uncomfortable then necessary for no apparent reason.

[Guardian of the Blind]

Originally posted by Wesleypipes77:

Originally posted by Dargsy Wargon:

Having to use one button over is a deal breaker?

You're not going to use your index finger because you need that one on the left click pretty much all the time so having to lift your middle finger off of the right mouse button where it sits perfectly comfortable to either push down your mousewheel with the second joint down instead of the tip of your finger or put your hand in some weird uncomfortable claw position that makes it harder to comfortably click the L button with your index in order to be able to use the tip of your finger on the mouse wheel as well as try not to uninintentionally zoom in or out and at the same time and control the camera with your hand in an uncomfortable position every single time you want to do so, when you could simply click the right button where your middle finger is already perfectly positioned to do so. It's like the antithesis of the definition of ergonomic. In other words making things more uncomfortable then necessary for no apparent reason.

my middlefinger is always on the mouse wheel. and most other people I know also have always their middle finger on the mouse wheel. so you are the odd one here. get used to it or don't play the game.

[Wesleypipes77]

Originally posted by Guardian of the Blind:

Originally posted by Wesleypipes77:

You're not going to use your index finger because you need that one on the left click pretty much all the time so having to lift your middle finger off of the right mouse button where it sits perfectly comfortable to either push down your mousewheel with the second joint down instead of the tip of your finger or put your hand in some weird uncomfortable claw position that makes it harder to comfortably click the L button with your index in order to be able to use the tip of your finger on the mouse wheel as well as try not to uninintentionally zoom in or out and at the same time and control the camera with your hand in an uncomfortable position every single time you want to do so, when you could simply click the right button where your middle finger is already perfectly positioned to do so. It's like the antithesis of the definition of ergonomic. In other words making things more uncomfortable then necessary for no apparent reason.

my middlefinger is always on the mouse wheel. and most other people I know also have always their middle finger on the mouse wheel. so you are the odd one here. get used to it or don't play the game.

Regardless of how you personally position your fingers or assume how others do, that doesn't change the simple fact that mice are designed for index finger on the left click and middle finger on the right click. I don't want to get used to your uncomfortable & unergonomic finger positioning but hey if that works for you great, doesn't bother me one bit yet it bothers you that I prefer to use my mouse the way it was intended? So sorry.....

[Wesleypipes77]

Originally posted by Friendly:

Personally I have just made one of my extra mouse buttons act as the middle mouse press.

That would probably work if my mouse had the extra button for the third finger but unfortunately it doesn't. Any other extra buttons are behind the mouse wheel so would pretty much just retain the same issue for me.

[Flob]

First time? lmaooo get over it we all adapted to it and I personally play perfectly fine with it being this way.

[NotaB0T]

since the days of doom2 i've used my middle finger on the middle to scroll weapons and zoom so it's natural for some of us...

[Vernon]

@OP are you new to gaming?
Edit: OP has over 1900 games but doesn't know how to use a mouse.

[Wesleypipes77]

Originally posted by NotaB0T:

since the days of doom2 i've used my middle finger on the middle to scroll weapons and zoom so it's natural for some of us...

Scrolling weapons and zooming is what the mouse wheel is generally used for and I'm perfectly fine with that I use it for the same myself but that's not what I'm getting at. I'm talking about click & hold on the mouse wheel to control the camera which no other game I've ever played does and I've played quite a few for quite awhile.

[Wesleypipes77]

Originally posted by Chocolate Turnip cs.money:

@OP are you new to gaming?
Edit: OP has over 1900 games but doesn't know how to use a mouse.

Edit: OP has over 1900 games and understands better than you how a mouse was intended to be used and why, perhaps because of that very fact.

[Drakorex]

At one point arrow keys were the only way to move the camera, at least we have wasd/mouse as options now. Right click is way too important to bind to the camera (and left hand should be on keybinds) though and plenty of RTS games and 3D programs use middle click for camera functions.

[Wesleypipes77]

Originally posted by Drakorex:

At one point arrow keys were the only way to move the camera, at least we have wasd/mouse as options now. Right click is way too important to bind to the camera (and left hand should be on keybinds) though and plenty of RTS games and 3D programs use middle click for camera functions.

I don't play a lot of RTS so you could be correct there and I'm sure there may be a few but I can't think of any 3D games that use the mousewheel to control camera not if it's a primary control function anyway. Not saying you're wrong just saying I can't recall any, I think it would definitely be an exception rather than the rule. To clarify I'm referring solely to being able to pan & scan the camera not zoom as in that case yes the mousewheel is the most common method. In my experience the mousewheel is for camera zoom in/out but usually the right mouse controls pan & scan if it is bound to a separate function and the camera isn't already tied into mouse look.

It works perfectly fine in Runelite and doesn't affect the original functions of the RMB at all, if you click on an interactable object the menu opens and if you click elsewhere the camera pans & rotates. You can also swap them altogether so the middle mouse button opens the menu and RMB is solely for camera regardless where you click. This is my preference so they still have a separate button each. I mean really how hard would that be to implement? Middle mouse button = menu, RMB = camera? Easy Peasy!

Seeing as how OSRS needed a third party mod to add this functionality though I wasn't really surprised to see it wasn't implemented here in RS3 by Jagex either though it would've been nice to see if they acted on feedback I was just hoping a least there would be some way to add it even if a mod was needed to do so as it was in OSRS.

You're right though I'd imagine the WASD camera would have been an improvement over clicking the mousewheel even if it is a bit more fixed movement. I'll try to get used to the WASD camera it might not be too bad, I'm new to Runescape so my main concern is if there are points where being able to control the camera accurately might affect your combat ability negatively if you're unable to do so. If that's not the case then I'm sure I can adjust to the WASD, if it is the case then it might drive me nuts and negatively affect my gameplay experience. So I think requesting such a simple option is pretty reasonable and would be in Jagex's best interest to suit different players control preferences.