Vorkath is overgassed.

[RebelMouth]

Vorkath doesn't really make a lot of sense as a boss. Put aside how sloppy the fight is technically with the acid spit and frozen spawn, but it seems obvious that Vorkath is poorly tuned.

It's not clear who Vorkath is for, if not for high level players having an endgame pet farm.

Despite having elite void, Salve (ei), Dragon crossbow with enchanted dragon bolts, zammy d'hide boots, etc my kills still can take up to five minutes. The only meaningful upgrades i can add to my character are worth tens of millions of GP, but the upgrade that really matters is the "dragon hunter crossbow"

(I'll also add i have 91+ range, defense and magic as those stats are relevant to the fight)

Currently the dragon hunter crossbow is sitting at a whopping 70m. That's cheap, last week it was 85 mil.

Vorkath on average is only worth 150k a kill, with his largest drop being a 20m visage with a 1/5k drop rate. There isn't a real point in grinding the DHCB so you can reliably farm Vorkath because if you have 85m to drop on a crossbow, you genuinely don't need to farm Vokath. If you wanted to pay a DHCB off it would take an average of a whopping 467 kills.

Vorkath also has another glaring issue that Jagex can't seem to get away from, and to me really shows the limitations both conceptually and technically of the development teams and the content they produce. Vorkath is another fight that's HIGHLY RNG dependant - not just on your hits where you can easily miss upwards of ten hits in a row, but also on the unavoidable attacks Vorkath hits you with.

One of my recent fights i took over 250 points in damage despite avoiding Vorkath's mechanics, simply because you can't pray against all types of damage. That's not uncommon at all.

The false difficulty of "RNG" fights has been a problem for Jagex for years. fights like Soloing Kril aren't fun to lose or win based on a coin toss, yet somehow they keep being implemented. To me it's shallow, lazy, uncreative and isn't fun. Content like this is why i make a point to tell people this game isn't a good value in 2022. grinding for hundreds of hours only to reach dead end content that isn't fun or rewarding is actually kind of soul crushing.

If Vorkath is really only a viable farm for maxed leveled players in hundreds of millions worth of BIS gear, what purpose does Vorkath actually serve besides being an end game pet farm?

[CovfefeCat]

Also correct me if I'm wrong but Elite Void isn't even all that great for ranged, it's meant for hybrid. Karils has better stats for ranged because it's pure. Elite void is meant for swapping between 2, ideally all 3 attack types. Plus the prayer bonus, which as you stated doesn't matter here.

[♿Mr. Alien♿]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c3TaxSmSCA

The day you can top this guy is the day I start to give a ♥♥♥♥ about this thread.

[RebelMouth]

Publicado originalmente por Cepheid Variable:

Also correct me if I'm wrong but Elite Void isn't even all that great for ranged, it's meant for hybrid. Karils has better stats for ranged because it's pure. Elite void is meant for swapping between 2, ideally all 3 attack types. Plus the prayer bonus, which as you stated doesn't matter here.

I'm happy to correct you. You are wrong, its bis for vorkath.

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Vorkath/Strategies

I can't see where i stated prayer bonus wouldn't matter, it can certainly extend your prayer and save money. It simply isn't relevant to the amount of damage i deal or receive in a particular fight.

Have you.... done vorkath yet?

[CovfefeCat]

Also again... Karils has better accuracy. Void increases your max hit sure, but you didn't say you're 99 ranged (although the difference between 91 or 92 and then 99 isn't that great to be fair). You also stated you don't have any of the other BiS gear such as Pegasian and Ward correct? So I stand by that you don't want to run Void because you might not be accurate enough currently to justify running a set bonus to increase your max hit. So in other words... Why do you want to farm a boss that is meant for a maxed out account to farm for a pet, and then complain about the RNG behind missing because your gear isn't up to par? You only need to kill him once for the quest completion, in no world do you kill a boss once and then immediately farm him with the same armor, you know? This isn't dark souls. RNG has been the core of Runescape since you start off at level 3

[RebelMouth]

Publicado originalmente por Cepheid Variable:

Also again... Karils has better accuracy. Void increases your max hit sure, but you didn't say you're 99 ranged (although the difference between 91 or 92 and then 99 isn't that great to be fair). You also stated you don't have any of the other BiS gear such as Pegasian and Ward correct? So I stand by that you don't want to run Void because you might not be accurate enough currently to justify running a set bonus to increase your max hit. So in other words... Why do you want to farm a boss that is meant for a maxed out account to farm for a pet, and then complain about the RNG behind missing because your gear isn't up to par? You only need to kill him once for the quest completion, in no world do you kill a boss once and then immediately farm him with the same armor, you know? This isn't dark souls. RNG has been the core of Runescape since you start off at level 3

Have you actually done Vorkath? you don't seem to understand what you're talking about at all and you completely dodged that question.

In fact you're doubling down in the face of being wrong, and i posted you the source proving you were wrong. And now you're saying weird things like "you kill him once to upgrade your cape" which actually makes no sense. If you mean the accumulator it can take up to 50 kills of the post quest variant.

The quest vorkath and post quest vorkath are two different bosses and you don't even seem to understand that! lol!

You're also going on about void not being accurate despite that being exactly what void is known for. the accuracy boost. Elite void had to be dropped from 20% to 12.5% damage because Jagex recognized it was such an OP set.

This guy is legit talking about running karils(same offensive bonuses as D'hide) at Vorkath and i'm dead right now, lmaoooooo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sRS1dwCotw

[Chev]

zulrah more fun but less money

[RebelMouth]

Publicado originalmente por Cepheid Variable:

Also again... Karils has better accuracy. Void increases your max hit sure, but you didn't say you're 99 ranged (although the difference between 91 or 92 and then 99 isn't that great to be fair). You also stated you don't have any of the other BiS gear such as Pegasian and Ward correct? So I stand by that you don't want to run Void because you might not be accurate enough currently to justify running a set bonus to increase your max hit. So in other words... Why do you want to farm a boss that is meant for a maxed out account to farm for a pet, and then complain about the RNG behind missing because your gear isn't up to par? You only need to kill him once for the quest completion, in no world do you kill a boss once and then immediately farm him with the same armor, you know? This isn't dark souls. RNG has been the core of Runescape since you start off at level 3

So.... you still haven't killed Vorkath yet?

[♿Mr. Alien♿]

Publicado originalmente por RebelMouth:

Publicado originalmente por five:

Jesus christ man. If you don't like vorkath do something else. It's obvious other people enjoy doing it, so if you don't enjoy it then you don't need to go on a rant and talk about how osrs players are "willing to accept bad content." Nor do you need to be such an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and talk about how you're too smart for other people to understand. You're making a fool of yourself.

Publicado originalmente por Dre4M:

>Creates topic in discussions;
>Gets reply there;
>Gets upset and starts crying;

Typical RebelTroll... Why to bother creating topics if you don't even bother listening to others? Just post it into your own PM and talk to yourself then. Vorkath is as good as it is now, it's as mentioned before is easy boss, money makers related to it are fairly OK'ish and I'm happy with it. If you have problems with this and cannot accept it, do as Infernal Machine said, look for other boss or stop crying here and then complaining when someone replies to your crying topics.

Mods these are ad hominem - Do your job like you've been avoiding for a month and remove them

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Alien:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c3TaxSmSCA

The day you can top this guy is the day I start to give a ♥♥♥♥ about this thread.

This adds nothing to the discussion. remove it.

You cannot control what people post in your thread dude. It will stay according to my opinion.

Also it is not irrelevant since the person in the guide clearly kills the same monster as you are trying to kill, except he is doing so in unconventional gear and still succeeds despite taking longer than an average vorkath killer.

Plus you're weird, let people play the game as they wish. This is a videogame, not your life.

[RebelMouth]

Odd how calling people "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" is only selectively against the rules whenever steam support is involved. it is clearly against the rules to harass and call people profanity, except when steam support wants you to do it.

Shout out to not only the steam mods for letting abuse sit for months on end selectively, but also to jagex mods who have banned people permanently for so much as pointing out that OSRS doesnt have true fullscreen,