Vorkath is overgassed.

[RebelMouth]

Vorkath doesn't really make a lot of sense as a boss. Put aside how sloppy the fight is technically with the acid spit and frozen spawn, but it seems obvious that Vorkath is poorly tuned.

It's not clear who Vorkath is for, if not for high level players having an endgame pet farm.

Despite having elite void, Salve (ei), Dragon crossbow with enchanted dragon bolts, zammy d'hide boots, etc my kills still can take up to five minutes. The only meaningful upgrades i can add to my character are worth tens of millions of GP, but the upgrade that really matters is the "dragon hunter crossbow"

(I'll also add i have 91+ range, defense and magic as those stats are relevant to the fight)

Currently the dragon hunter crossbow is sitting at a whopping 70m. That's cheap, last week it was 85 mil.

Vorkath on average is only worth 150k a kill, with his largest drop being a 20m visage with a 1/5k drop rate. There isn't a real point in grinding the DHCB so you can reliably farm Vorkath because if you have 85m to drop on a crossbow, you genuinely don't need to farm Vokath. If you wanted to pay a DHCB off it would take an average of a whopping 467 kills.

Vorkath also has another glaring issue that Jagex can't seem to get away from, and to me really shows the limitations both conceptually and technically of the development teams and the content they produce. Vorkath is another fight that's HIGHLY RNG dependant - not just on your hits where you can easily miss upwards of ten hits in a row, but also on the unavoidable attacks Vorkath hits you with.

One of my recent fights i took over 250 points in damage despite avoiding Vorkath's mechanics, simply because you can't pray against all types of damage. That's not uncommon at all.

The false difficulty of "RNG" fights has been a problem for Jagex for years. fights like Soloing Kril aren't fun to lose or win based on a coin toss, yet somehow they keep being implemented. To me it's shallow, lazy, uncreative and isn't fun. Content like this is why i make a point to tell people this game isn't a good value in 2022. grinding for hundreds of hours only to reach dead end content that isn't fun or rewarding is actually kind of soul crushing.

If Vorkath is really only a viable farm for maxed leveled players in hundreds of millions worth of BIS gear, what purpose does Vorkath actually serve besides being an end game pet farm?

[Infernal Machine]

Vork is a very easy and chill boss. Idk why you are having so much difficulty. Most of my bank has been made from grinding Vork, and I have gone from a bank of about 50 mil total to a bank of about 400 mil total, just from that. Just use the blowpipe or dragon crossbow and elite void gear, until you get enough for a dragonhunter crossbow, and watch your profits skyrocket. If you don't have elite void yet, regular void can work ok.

[RebelMouth]

Originalmente postado por Infernal Machine:

Vork is a very easy and chill boss. Idk why you are having so much difficulty. Most of my bank has been made from grinding Vork, and I have gone from a bank of about 50 mil total to a bank of about 400 mil total, just from that. Just use the blowpipe and elite void gear, until you get enough for a dragonhunter crossbow, and watch your profits skyrocket.

It's not a difficult boss, feel free to reread. I don't think i ever stated that.

It's clear you didn't bother to read the post if you don't know i already have elite void.

[Infernal Machine]

Again, it's a chill boss that basically craps money with very little effort. It's my moneymaker of choice tbh

[RebelMouth]

Originalmente postado por Infernal Machine:

Again, it's a chill boss that basically craps money with very little effort. It's my moneymaker of choice tbh

Didn't ask.

With a 400m bank vorkath would be optimal and this entire post doesn't apply. Feel free to reread before engaging in discussions, so you are aware of what they are about.

[Infernal Machine]

Go do a different boss if you hate Vork. It's that simple.

[RebelMouth]

Originalmente postado por Infernal Machine:

Go do a different boss if you hate Vork. It's that simple.

I'm going to block you because this conversation seems to complicated for you, and I'm not sure why you're butthurt and spamming a post you clearly didn't read and understand.

nothing personal. Cheers!

[Dre4M]

>Creates topic in discussions;
>Gets reply there;
>Gets upset and starts crying;

Typical RebelTroll... Why to bother creating topics if you don't even bother listening to others? Just post it into your own PM and talk to yourself then. Vorkath is as good as it is now, it's as mentioned before is easy boss, money makers related to it are fairly OK'ish and I'm happy with it. If you have problems with this and cannot accept it, do as Infernal Machine said, look for other boss or stop crying here and then complaining when someone replies to your crying topics.

[RebelMouth]

I think one thing Infernal Machines post does is point out yet another problem with the osrs community. They're willing to accept any content, even if it isn't good content, so long as it's rewarding enough.

This is exactly what happened with wintertodt. They basically took bonfires from RS3, added an annoying damage/interrupt mechanic you can get spammed with and called it good. Unlike Vorkath though, at least Wintertodt serves a purpose for progression.

[lambda]

Jesus christ man. If you don't like vorkath do something else. It's obvious other people enjoy doing it, so if you don't enjoy it then you don't need to go on a rant and talk about how osrs players are "willing to accept bad content." Nor do you need to be such an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and talk about how you're too smart for other people to understand. You're making a fool of yourself.

[Infernal Machine]

I hate Zulrah, but you don't see me ranting about how people who enjoy Zulrah are willing to accept bad content. I just don't grind Zulrah.

[DUKE NUKEM]

runescape returns is having trouble rewarding players at high levels because you won't add new content that isn't derivative

runescape was never meant to be a game about being max level. only leveling up

if you do not add serious developments like new skills then the team can't reward you properly with anything but pets

[CoopaTroopa]

Originalmente postado por DUKE NUKEM:

runescape returns is having trouble rewarding players at high levels because you won't add new content that isn't derivative

runescape was never meant to be a game about being max level. only leveling up

if you do not add serious developments like new skills then the team can't reward you properly with anything but pets

if runescape was only about 'leveling up', then adding new skills would be a temporary solution to a problem im not sure would be fixable

[RebelMouth]

Originalmente postado por DUKE NUKEM:

runescape returns is having trouble rewarding players at high levels because you won't add new content that isn't derivative

runescape was never meant to be a game about being max level. only leveling up

if you do not add serious developments like new skills then the team can't reward you properly with anything but pets

I like how you managed to shoehorn in your "new skills" pitch yet again. you just can't help yourself, can you Duke? Lol.

I know you want new skills but that still doesn't seem to change the dead end content this game has once you level those skills. I think you're getting tunnel vision... again.

[RebelMouth]

Blowpipe is terrible advice btw. Maybe it was better before the nerf but it doesn't really cut down on kill times compared to the dragon crossbow and enchanted bolts, and you actually take more damage because the dragonfire isnt completely mitigated with prayer.

does anyone care to explain how it's good game design for me to waste an entire inventory and need to teleport out of an expensive fight because vorkath can smack consistent unblockable 30's?

how is it NOT a glaring red flag that this fight is too RNG dependent when my kills times with the same setup vary as much as two and a half minutes?

[CovfefeCat]

Wait... Your complaint is that the boss to the latest grandmaster quest is... Taking too long to fight? And you want him to be easier?