my summoning rework

[DUKE NUKEM]

want summoning back in the game. actually i want any new skill to train pretty badly but i was thinking about how summoning could work

* the life rune will be required to creates summoning pouches. it will be a very rare rune and many will be required for higher level summons along with other items. NO XP is gained for making a pouch
* XP is gained from training with the summon. when it deals damage, or does its skilling task if it is not a combat summon
* summons can aid in combat anywhere but they are "soul tethered" to you, if you take damage they take the same damage
* pets can be healed with soul food; all regular food can be turned into soul food by a process
* pets have a "bond level" that goes up the more they are used. This determines their ability to use special and passive abilities. it resets to zero if they die or you summon something else
* There is NO TIMER on how long a summon can stay with you (maybe exceptions)

in response to some complaints that the "soul tether" damage pets take would be ineffective in areas where you just pray all the time like barrows I wanted to make a few points
* we could have some areas where you just can't use summons, maybe we say the corrupted aura of the barrows prevents all familiars from functioning. easy fix
* or we could just let it happen. there are few places like that and it wouldn't be a big change to them compared to how you do it now besides a slight increase to efficiency

[DUKE NUKEM]

Aeronizor a écrit :

As much as I have fond and good memories about summoning, I truly believe it would alter Old School RuneScapes' general playing feel too much. the impact the skill release had in 2008 is still about 50-50 how the community feels. I'm neutral in this, I'd like to see a new skill but I hate the potential gamebreaking backlash it did and will have

you are creating a self fulfililng prophecy. you fear a backlash but you're encouraging the backlash. an mmo cannot survive forever without major shakeups. as long as it doesn't change the core mechanics its fine

[RebelMouth]

TOTALLY a major shakeup by shoehorning questionable mechanics into an old, unwanted skill from RS3.

What a game changer. Conceptually revolutionizing the industry....

Some people need to reread the things they type aloud and hear what they sound like.

[DUKE NUKEM]

RebelMouth a écrit :

TOTALLY a major shakeup by shoehorning questionable mechanics into an old, unwanted skill from RS3.

What a game changer. Conceptually revolutionizing the industry....

Some people need to reread the things they type aloud and hear what they sound like.

summoning was in rs2, so don't pretend its an rs3 thing. rs3 began in 2011 or 12. and summoning has always been planned since the release of this game

its a good shakeup that gives us combat companions, increases our power levels (which will need to happen eventually) and gives us a new skill to train....which IS the entire point of runescape

[Witch ~]

No timer would kill pets

[RebelMouth]

Milkless Tea a écrit :

This topic needs to be closed. It's basically "I want it therefore it should be in the game"

Basically what this thread has been. " i want it so it needs to be in the game and everyone else is wrong, whether they are or not". OP hasn't even managed to acknowledge or adress valid criticisms to his rework.

The ideas presented were pretty inconsistent. Op claims he wants the "grindy" play of osrs, while at the same time trying to find ways to jam flat exp boosts into the game. Which is it?

There was one person who agreed with the OP in this thread, and it was that they wanted summoning, not this OP rework. At the point he is arguing with Jagex about what the game was made for, and claiming everyone is for summoning "cuz some polls", while this entire thread shoots the OP down just doesn't scream "acceptance"

There is a game that has skilling boosts, summoning, dungeoneering and all the things this thread was asking for. It's called runescape 3. OP might be a lot happier playing that, and maybe his summoning rework will impress that community. As it stands this post comes across as a little tone deaf.

[DUKE NUKEM]

Witch ~ a écrit :

No timer would kill pets

i gata be honest, i don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about pets. i think its a cheap cosmetic bauble designed to keep high level players from asking for real content.

but maybe we can make everyone happy by letting you keep a pet AND a summon out?

[Zoidberg]

DUKE NUKEM a écrit :

want summoning back in the game. )

Summoning was never added in OSRS so kinda hard to bring it back. Wasen't it added in like 2008 RS2?

Also it would ruin pretty much every boss method in the game and make everything as easy as RS3

[Phirestar]

Zoidberg a écrit :

DUKE NUKEM a écrit :

want summoning back in the game. )

Summoning was never added in OSRS so kinda hard to bring it back. Wasen't it added in like 2008 RS2?

Also it would ruin pretty much every boss method in the game and make everything as easy as RS3

Yes, Summoning was added in January of 2008, in comparison to the version that Old School is built on from August of 2007 - a five-month difference, basically.

That was very weird to me, when I came back and had a proper look into OSRS for the first time. For whatever reason I was always under the impression that Summoning had been released in 2006, and that it was one of the "core" skills. I can just about remember seeing the main menu screen they implemented for the update.

[Witch ~]

Phirestar a écrit :

Zoidberg a écrit :

Summoning was never added in OSRS so kinda hard to bring it back. Wasen't it added in like 2008 RS2?

Also it would ruin pretty much every boss method in the game and make everything as easy as RS3

Yes, Summoning was added in January of 2008, in comparison to the version that Old School is built on from August of 2007 - a five-month difference, basically.

That was very weird to me, when I came back and had a proper look into OSRS for the first time. For whatever reason I was always under the impression that Summoning had been released in 2006, and that it was one of the "core" skills. I can just about remember seeing the main menu screen they implemented for the update.

Reeee we almost had it!!

[Zoidberg]

Phirestar a écrit :

Zoidberg a écrit :

Summoning was never added in OSRS so kinda hard to bring it back. Wasen't it added in like 2008 RS2?

Also it would ruin pretty much every boss method in the game and make everything as easy as RS3

Yes, Summoning was added in January of 2008, in comparison to the version that Old School is built on from August of 2007 - a five-month difference, basically.

That was very weird to me, when I came back and had a proper look into OSRS for the first time. For whatever reason I was always under the impression that Summoning had been released in 2006, and that it was one of the "core" skills. I can just about remember seeing the main menu screen they implemented for the update.

I remember the main menu screen aswell so damn well. Time flies very fast

[DUKE NUKEM]

Zoidberg a écrit :

DUKE NUKEM a écrit :

want summoning back in the game. )

Summoning was never added in OSRS so kinda hard to bring it back. Wasen't it added in like 2008 RS2?

Also it would ruin pretty much every boss method in the game and make everything as easy as RS3

not with the balancing alterations i have suggested here. also we could easily just remove beasts of burden

[DUKE NUKEM]

Witch ~ a écrit :

Phirestar a écrit :

Yes, Summoning was added in January of 2008, in comparison to the version that Old School is built on from August of 2007 - a five-month difference, basically.

That was very weird to me, when I came back and had a proper look into OSRS for the first time. For whatever reason I was always under the impression that Summoning had been released in 2006, and that it was one of the "core" skills. I can just about remember seeing the main menu screen they implemented for the update.

Reeee we almost had it!!

if they polled stuff like this now that the game is established. we probably still would have it

[Witch ~]

DUKE NUKEM a écrit :

Witch ~ a écrit :

Reeee we almost had it!!

if they polled stuff like this now that the game is established. we probably still would have it

Nah redditors are too butt twisted. Plus Summoning simply changed too much in the combat

[DUKE NUKEM]

Witch ~ a écrit :

DUKE NUKEM a écrit :

if they polled stuff like this now that the game is established. we probably still would have it

Nah redditors are too butt twisted. Plus Summoning simply changed too much in the combat

yea reddit is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up place. devs pay too much attention to it.

i think if we removed the beasts of burden and implemented some of my changes here we wouldn't see a negative impact on combat.

some change is good

[Zoidberg]

DUKE NUKEM a écrit :

Witch ~ a écrit :

Nah redditors are too butt twisted. Plus Summoning simply changed too much in the combat

yea reddit is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up place. devs pay too much attention to it.

i think if we removed the beasts of burden and implemented some of my changes here we wouldn't see a negative impact on combat.

some change is good

That's what they said about RS3 too. See what became of that at the release. More than half of the playerbase quit