significantly better than DW 8 empires?

[heime2003]

i somewhat prefer empire expansion to base warrior game. but i often get disappointed by them. weak strategic element, non improved combat is one of things that make me regret my purchase. DW 9 empires is worth to get for $60? any chance for a sale in near future?

[simon028]

Honestly, 9 Empires has too little content and worthwhile additions to justify its 60$ price. However, it does feel more immersive and strategic than 8 Empires. It expands upon arguably the best gameplay moments of Vanilla 9 (siege battles) and adds its own quirks to the combat system (I personally don't like the changes they made to it though, they made it so freeform that a lot of basic character combos from Vanilla end up not working as intended).

The disappointment for me mainly came from the very limited outfit choices for the created warriors (you have to buy recycled outfits from earlier games that kinda clash with the game's aesthetic) and the poverty/repetition of events and scenarios (you just get a 30s cutscene once per campaign to tell you you're a good/bad person and the rest is mainly capturing/befriending/marrying officers).

So I would say that no, it is not significantly better than 8 Empires, only slightly so, and it has a bunch of problems on its own. I expected it to get meaningful content down the line like they did with Vanilla, but it didn't happen. If you're interested, I think you should wait until it drops at around 25$.

[LukanGamer]

No it beyond worse, it has 9s combat and only castle siege (THATS IT - "free roam killing of randomly placed wolfs/sheep/basic bandits) so if you some how prefer those 2 things then sure.

Otherwise no you got a massive downgrade cant even set up own scenario or change base game character costumes or be a free officer with purpose (may as well been 100% removed it as it litteraly just reduces what you can do and not a thing more).

[Zero McDol]

Visually? Yes. Beyond visuals, not even remotely. There isn't much going in in DW9E. The open world is hallow with 3 things going on: Sleep - Fight - Talk. The Empires side of things is okay, but once again limited in comparison to DW8E.

The combat consist of a 4 hit combo or any one of those four hits chained into a single charge attack. Limited. You can counter with the charge button - Use special attacks with the trigger + one of four buttons - The charge trigger attack can be charged - There's a combo when the opponent is down for certain fighting styles, like Lu bu's for instance. You can also chain the 4 hit combo - into a charge attack - back into another 4 hit combo - rinse repeat for however long. Certain fighting styles have an air combo, like Zhou Tai's, so you can do a trigger charge to knock them airborne - regular attack that will auto attack in the air - follow with a charge - another trigger charge to knock airborne - rinse repeat for however long.

It's okay but limited on combos. Previous DW games were better on the combo note. There are no raids - there are no assassinations - vagrant officer is heavily restricted.

What the game does do better than the other Empire games, aside from the visuals, is the handling of the time limit. The open world portion is not time limited, so you can explore for however long you want or if limited, 30 full days. Empires time progresses by a month with a 50 years time limit. So that's 12 rounds per year; plenty of time to get things done and still have plenty of time to spare. There's also the interaction with hero's and spouses that imo, is better than other Empires games; mainly because there's more options and more interactions that they randomly initiate with you.

[Infern]

It's not even that great.

Morale determines how much damage you do to an enemy and how much the enemy does to you.
On normal difficulty it is just mixing heavy and light attacks.
On higher difficulties it is holding block then Parrying each time to do more damage.

The main combat is 5 stages.
1. Activating your strategic ability (Only available if you have the ability to. Success means morale go up and failure means a lower morale)
2. Capturing bases to defend/attack (opening a gate).
3. Defending against the enemies strategy (failure makes your morale go down)
4. At a random point in battle a random event occurs usually an assault team/archers/bannerman do a scripted event).
5. Morale goes higher for your team and then you start capturing their main base.

Every fight unfortunately has that strategy.
Dynasty Warriors 9 was a better game than this empire variant.

[heime2003]

at one time, i wished koei learn putting strategic elements into empire games from CA (a dev
made total war three kingdoms) i like warrior style combat better but strategies and tactics found in their game are too basic and one dimentional

[MastaMez]

Nope It's worse. DW8E isnt that great either but it's still a much better game than this one. All DW9E has over it is better graphics and more cutscenes. Thats it.

[heime2003]

Originally posted by MastaMez:

Nope It's worse. DW8E isnt that great either but it's still a much better game than this one. All DW9E has over it is better graphics and more cutscenes. Thats it.

hows strategic side of battle?

[LukanGamer]

Originally posted by heime2003:

Originally posted by MastaMez:

[/i]All[/i] DW9E has over it is better graphics and more cutscenes. Thats it.

hows strategic side of battle?

he sort of answered that

[hoverboard07]

I'd say what happened is they decided to improve upon what dw8e sucked at and then proceeded to throw everything good out the quests from dw8e would've been fantastic in the open world and having everything happen in real time would've been brilliant but alas Koei Tecmo only puts in effort if a big company is breathing down their neck

[♕ JingShen Wáng ♕]

Hopefully they could merge Empire 8-9. Open World Quests, Encounters etc.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by ✺꧁Mimage꧂✺:

Hopefully they could merge Empire 8-9. Open World Quests, Encounters etc.

That'd be awesome honestly.

All that's missing from DW9E is the options from DW8E, and maybe some activities in the open world portion. Definitely not gonna happen though, as Koei has pretty much left this game after the 2022 patch. Unfortunately it's a take it or leave it.


edit:
I've put in about 73 hours with this game, so I do find it to be entertaining, but it could've been way better.

[Baldimort]

Graphics are better, but anything else is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.