Rise of the Ronin

Rise of the Ronin

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Nasworder 1. Feb. um 12:16
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Is it woke ?
I've noticed there's a 'Body Type A' and 'Body Type B' in the character creator. There are claims that the player character is referred to with 'they/them' pronouns instead of 'he/him' or 'she/her'. Is that true?

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Finally, I got answers to my two questions. I kind of suspected it was true, given how many people were pissed off about it. So, to summarize: Yes, the character creation includes body type nonsense, which I saw in a YouTube video. And apparently, it’s also true that we’re referred to as "they" during game dialogues. You can argue it’s for monetary reasons, but that doesn’t make it okay with me—it’s still enough to stop me from buying the game. Maybe if there was no body type nonsense, I might consider it, but with that crap included, it’s too much.

I saw tons of people whining that I made this post just for points, but I don’t care about the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ points. I’ve spent more points than I’ve gained anyway, and I think Steam should ditch the point system because idiots use it as an excuse to dodge real questions.

And to wrap it up, for the record, I did get banned by Steam Support (maybe some of you saw that). It was some kind of warning, and I only got banned from this game’s forum. Maybe they didn’t like some jokes I cracked about Canadians—I’m not mad about it, it’s fine. But I want to thank the studio, even though I don’t buy into their nonsensical ideologies for this game, for not banning me and for letting people speak freely.

Thanks to everyone who tried to answer and had my back—you’re solid guys. And also, thanks to all the clowns on this forum—you all made me laugh xD
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von digimaster7:
you clowns are bickering useless stuff instead of answering OP’s question.

the answer is yes, the npc does refer you as they/them
https://www.reddit.com/r/riseoftheronin/s/5ipLlmsb9V

might be because koei doesn’t want to record multiple line for each gender, might be because koei are actually woke. I don’t know I don’t work there to know the reason

if you don’t like it then just vote with your wallet. now can everyone just shut up and move on?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ampuj4:
Yep its woke allright.

According to reddit:

- Girl bosses
- Preset character creation prefers white or black women
- Has body types 1 and 2
- Leader of the elite group of assassin’s is a gay woman
- Before game starts trigger warning about how 1800s Japan doesn’t reflect the diversity of the people who created the game nor their values
Oh wow. Can anyone confirm or deny these?

Very interesting if true.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimdaddy:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von eijibayushi:
I wonder if Grim and Redacted are the same person. This you? https://x.com/monsieur_grim
Nope. I have way more followers, and a very different handle.

I don't even do social media. The last time I was on it was Google+ in 2012 before they shut it down I believe?

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimdaddy:
It is pretty sad that you are still not engaging in good faith, and instead are just concocting conspiracy theories about your opponents.

I'm not surprised since when people feel cornered they tend to react in all kinds of unusual and unexpected ways, conspiracy, however, is a bit... pedestrian.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimdaddy:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redacted:
So, Grim, I guess you're also a subscriber to the malevolent "hate speech ideology" he wants the state to control.

I guess so, he hates my speech so much he cannot even respond to it. He just ignores my questions, and refuses an honest discussion.

He ignores the questions because he doesn't have solid reasoning to counter them.

In order to have a good faith honest discussion one must be capable to exhibiting honesty.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redacted:
Which does not mean we need to tolerate dysfunctional behavior and that kind of thinking is what leads to asinine public policy legalizing crime and degeneracy.

In liberal states they were locking up the products not the criminals. The New York subway has young degenerates discharging fire extinguishers on people.

This is where he fraudulently accused me of labeling transgender people as degenerates even though I never mentioned them on this particular point.

I even gave a specific example as to the type of criminal degenerate behavior I was referring to, but he wants to deceptively distort the context to fit his narrative.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redacted:
Funny, how what is mostly deemed as hate speech is harmful to the regime and an excuse to step on and gain more control over everyone else's right of self expression.

There's a monumental difference between hate in speech and speech you hate

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redacted:
Not surprising since you are unaware of the five core tenets for the freedom of speech or what they actually mean for society.

"Hate speech" doesn't exist - what is hateful to you is not universally hateful for everyone else so it's just a false government narrative to control what people can and cannot say.

Expressing even more dishonesty this is where he decided I was a National Socialist sympathizer because I don't believe in empowering the state to regulate social issues.

Somehow, not wanting government to be able to define what is "hate speech" and then wielding the vaguely defined terms as a ubiquitous weapon wielded to suppress dissent against the regime is a "dangerous" idea.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redacted:
But then, if all one has to do to be considered a National Socialist is to believe in freedom of speech, I can see why he sees enemies everywhere in the faces of normal people.

In Marxist ideology an all encompassing socialist state apparatus is their god, their ideology, their morality, hell, it's their entire worldview.

Anyone who doesn't agree with the idea of giving more power to the state to solve all issues will always be a part of the problem since expanding the scope of the state's power is always their solution.

They are sycophants for the control systems of the regime.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redacted:
Does anyone want to tell him that NatSocs don't believe in free speech either? They had a pretty rough track record on that count.

Which is why he is labeling us as National Socialist because he's accusing us of believing in hate speech not free speech. I'm sure he's patting himself on the back for that one.
Is this your first Japanese game? You're surprised to see female bosses? Really?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Littlefatcat:
Is this your first Japanese game? You're surprised to see female bosses? Really?
Nah, they don't mean 'female boss characters'

They mean 'Girl Bosses'. Very different concept in pop culture.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimdaddy:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Littlefatcat:
Is this your first Japanese game? You're surprised to see female bosses? Really?
Nah, they don't mean 'female boss characters'

They mean 'Girl Bosses'. Very different concept in pop culture.

And one of those girl bosses grab moves is wrapping her legs around your face...

https://www.reddit.com/r/stellarblade/comments/1f5f56g/eve_in_rise_of_the_ronin/

You could not make a character like that in Nioh 2 or Wo Long without mods.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spoonardo:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gravious:

Correct, its a Koei Tecmo game, and I played the PS5 release *Until my eyes started bleeding from performance mode* and decided to wait till PC release. I didnt see any pronoun nonsense. Japanese made game afterall. I know some japanese games were bullied into it for our releases *Dragon Quest 3* but not all of em will fall for that tripe, especially since now we got Trump back in office firing off executive orders left and right, systematically banning pronouns.
Imagine banning part of the English language, because you're afraid of a group that uses those words. :steamsalty:
Which is what Redacted and Grim are about but try to pretend they are champions of free speech while wanting to basically get rid of any mention of transgender while I am the enemy because I hate ♥♥♥♥. LOL. They also don't seem to get you can indeed be the same person with two different profiles. ♥♥♥♥ like followers doesn't carry over. Lies about not doing social media too.
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Grim and Redacted just gaslight and sealion. It's all they really know how to do.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimdaddy:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Littlefatcat:
Is this your first Japanese game? You're surprised to see female bosses? Really?
Nah, they don't mean 'female boss characters'

They mean 'Girl Bosses'. Very different concept in pop culture.
Mansplanning.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von eijibayushi:
Grim and Redacted just gaslight and sealion. It's all they really know how to do.

They have done this in other game forums as well.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von eijibayushi:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimdaddy:
Nah, they don't mean 'female boss characters'

They mean 'Girl Bosses'. Very different concept in pop culture.
Mansplanning.
All proper men have a plan. Failing to plan is planning to fail, after all.

Sadly, I don't think he caught the nuance in the difference between Girl Bosses and Female Boss Characters. So I will change my plans, and try to explain again.

It is a defining difference between Galadriel in the Rings of Power (Girl Boss) vs. Sniper Wolf in Metal Gear Solid (Female Boss Character).

What is your next plan going to be?
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimdaddy:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von eijibayushi:
Mansplanning.
All proper men have a plan. Failing to plan is planning to fail, after all.

Sadly, I don't think he caught the nuance in the difference between Girl Bosses and Female Boss Characters. So I will change my plans, and try to explain again.

It is a defining difference between Galadriel in the Rings of Power (Girl Boss) vs. Sniper Wolf in Metal Gear Solid (Female Boss Character).

What is your next plan going to be?

I'm going to finish watching Meiji Gekken: 1874
Ursprünglich geschrieben von eijibayushi:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spoonardo:
Imagine banning part of the English language, because you're afraid of a group that uses those words. :steamsalty:
Which is what Redacted and Grim are about but try to pretend they are champions of free speech while wanting to basically get rid of any mention of transgender while I am the enemy because I hate ♥♥♥♥. LOL. They also don't seem to get you can indeed be the same person with two different profiles. ♥♥♥♥ like followers doesn't carry over. Lies about not doing social media too.

Show receipts, otherwise this is just projection.

Give us the evidence. I'll wait.


Ursprünglich geschrieben von eijibayushi:
Grim and Redacted just gaslight and sealion. It's all they really know how to do.

Should be really easy to prove that, you being so very sure of it. Do it.
Show us your proof.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Littlefatcat:

I'm going to finish watching Meiji Gekken: 1874

Excellent choice, it is fantastic for the target audience. Assuming that is you, I am sure you will love it.
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causality (Ausgeschlossen) 9. März um 23:12 
Meiji Gekken: 1874 was a gem but a lot of people didn't seem to like it because it wasn't an over the top shounen. It was also written in mind for a Japanese audience or people who know Japanese history/culture.
Woke culture dont exist bro. Go and live yout live and play the game!
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimdaddy:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von eijibayushi:
Which is what Redacted and Grim are about but try to pretend they are champions of free speech while wanting to basically get rid of any mention of transgender while I am the enemy because I hate ♥♥♥♥. LOL. They also don't seem to get you can indeed be the same person with two different profiles. ♥♥♥♥ like followers doesn't carry over. Lies about not doing social media too.

Show receipts, otherwise this is just projection.

Give us the evidence. I'll wait.


Ursprünglich geschrieben von eijibayushi:
Grim and Redacted just gaslight and sealion. It's all they really know how to do.

Should be really easy to prove that, you being so very sure of it. Do it.
Show us your proof.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Littlefatcat:

I'm going to finish watching Meiji Gekken: 1874

Excellent choice, it is fantastic for the target audience. Assuming that is you, I am sure you will love it.
You missed the part where Littlefatcat said you and Redacted gaslight and sealion in other forums. There's now two people saying you do this.
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