Do not buy this game, if you love Team Ninja

[Treasure Chest]

If you love Team Ninja and their games, do not buy this game.

Why?

Rise of the Ronin was made as the new flagship IP for the company and was supposed to be the new standard for the future of Team Ninja games, it had massive funding and the sales were expected to be 5m+ copies sold on PS5 alone. Team Ninja betrayed their core audience and went for the casual market, made the game open-world and added super easy and easy difficulty modes to appeal to casuals. What happened? In the launch week Rise of the Ronin was one of their fastest selling games, but in the long run it had no legs and sold worse than Nioh 1.

If this game was a success, it would have ruined and killed Team Ninja for good. Thank God it was a massive failure. Don't forget that Team Ninja has a tendency to try and sellout (Remember original Ninja Gaiden 3 which was an interactive movie and almost killed the franchise?), but so far, every time they have tried that, the games were failures.

If you love NINJA GAIDEN and NIOH, do not buy this game, this game was supposed to destroy that which you love. It is very important that this game continues to be a financial failure, so that future Team Ninja games remain of high quality and aren't boring open-world garbage with casualized difficulty settings.

Even Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty is far superior to this boring open-world slop!

Go buy Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, Ninja Gaiden 4 or Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty instead, and in the future Nioh 3.

[Shivers]

Publicado originalmente por Treasure Chest:

If you love Team Ninja and their games, do not buy this game.

Why?

Rise of the Ronin was made as the new flagship IP for the company and was supposed to be the new standard for the future of Team Ninja games, it had massive funding and the sales were expected to be 5m+ copies sold on PS5 alone. Team Ninja betrayed their core audience and went for the casual market, made the game open-world and added super easy and easy difficulty modes to appeal to casuals. What happened? In the launch week Rise of the Ronin was one of their fastest selling games, but in the long run it had no legs and sold worse than Nioh 1.

If this game was a success, it would have ruined and killed Team Ninja for good. Thank God it was a massive failure. Don't forget that Team Ninja has a tendency to try and sellout (Remember original Ninja Gaiden 3 which was an interactive movie and almost killed the franchise?), but so far, every time they have tried that, the games were failures.

If you love NINJA GAIDEN and NIOH, do not buy this game, this game was supposed to destroy that which you love. It is very important that this game continues to be a financial failure, so that future Team Ninja games remain of high quality and aren't boring open-world garbage with casualized difficulty settings.

Even Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty is far superior to this boring open-world slop!

Go buy Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, Ninja Gaiden 4 or Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty instead, and in the future Nioh 3.

As a true Nioh fan, I'm buying this, what are you gonna do about it? cry, flail at the screen? beg to your gods to smite me? you have no power here, and I will in fact buy multiple copies just because you said not to, how does that sound?

You are no arbiter of truth, but a zealot of your own delusions, you have no sway over anyone, negative sway if anything.

[The73atman86]

Publicado originalmente por space:

already bought it on ps5, buying on pc soon

Same and it’s a good thing I only played a couple of hours

[M&M's]

Publicado originalmente por Treasure Chest:

Publicado originalmente por space:

already bought it on ps5, buying on pc soon

You are not a true Team Ninja fan.

I am true anan fan

[Valkhir]

Buying, thanks for convincing me OP.

[DeimosVox]

Publicado originalmente por Treasure Chest:

Go buy Ninja Gaiden 2 Black

No. It's not the 360 version so absolutely not.

[cacromwell3113]

Publicado originalmente por Treasure Chest:

If you love Team Ninja and their games, do not buy this game.

Why?

Rise of the Ronin was made as the new flagship IP for the company and was supposed to be the new standard for the future of Team Ninja games, it had massive funding and the sales were expected to be 5m+ copies sold on PS5 alone. Team Ninja betrayed their core audience and went for the casual market, made the game open-world and added super easy and easy difficulty modes to appeal to casuals. What happened? In the launch week Rise of the Ronin was one of their fastest selling games, but in the long run it had no legs and sold worse than Nioh 1.

If this game was a success, it would have ruined and killed Team Ninja for good. Thank God it was a massive failure. Don't forget that Team Ninja has a tendency to try and sellout (Remember original Ninja Gaiden 3 which was an interactive movie and almost killed the franchise?), but so far, every time they have tried that, the games were failures.

If you love NINJA GAIDEN and NIOH, do not buy this game, this game was supposed to destroy that which you love. It is very important that this game continues to be a financial failure, so that future Team Ninja games remain of high quality and aren't boring open-world garbage with casualized difficulty settings.

Even Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty is far superior to this boring open-world slop!

Go buy Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, Ninja Gaiden 4 or Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty instead, and in the future Nioh 3.

Dude you need to just stop. Your whining is embarrassing. Ronin didn't sell well because it went up against Dragaon Age and it was PS exclusive. The other factors were no demo for people to feel it out and annoying Nioh fans crying that it wasn't Nioh. Oh no it had difficulty settings so more people could play the game. So did SOP. The game can be as difficult as the player wants. The open world was fine. I would say they just shouldn't do it too often with their games. Interesting to see Wo Long revisionism, now that Ronin is coming out. Wo long had issues that went beyond it's technical issues and veered into it's design choices at least for me it did. I think there will probably technical issues on launch, but I think Ronin will end up being received better than Wo long was.

[Ollin]

Wo-long was trash, way worse than Nioh and Nioh 2. If it's the opposite of that, then this will be better.

[Krafin117]

Good to know.

I will buy it in March.

[hkthui]

The combat gets considerably better as you progress in the game. The beginning of the game feels a lot like playing vanilla Wo Long; just one stance with two skills and only 2 alternate attacks aside from your one standard combo - and a focus on deflecting; which can be similar to an attack, a dodge, or a parry - depending on the situation and the stance.

But you do eventually get to be able to stance dance, and you can build your own custom combo by doing things like R1+T (hold) T, R1+S S S, R1 + X and linking that to a combo in another stance with a violent gale or basic combo in the same/another stance.

The combat opens up once you're able to get 3 stances per weapon, and the styles up to at least intermediate for the 3rd skill (advanced upgrades the 3rd skill and master allows you to take the 3rd skill from any mastered style and make it the 4th skill on a different mastered style.)

3 intermediate styles per weapon helps open the combat up a lot, and mastering the styles opens it up even more.

But the beginning of the game really tries to boil the combat down into something that it isn't. And you don't stance dance until you decide to ignore the whole advantaged/disadvantaged mechanic - which is ironically the mechanic that helps you stagger the enemies for longer combos...

It sounds more ridiculous than it is.

But like - yes - the combat gets way better.

[Senki]

Ninja gaiden 2 black is old clunky slop carried by nostalgia and pretty graphics

I'll gladly enjoy this game instead

I'm not a fanboy of any company, if they stop making games that I am interested in then I will simply move on to the other companies that will take their place.

As far as this game is concerned it just looks like a better Wo Long combat-wise. I loved Wo Long so I'm getting this as well.

[Senki]

Publicado originalmente por Oninomiru:

Team Ninja's 3 games that came out after Nioh 2 were pretty casual. So you are a little late already. The switch already happened long time ago.

I like more complex games and a bit sad Team Ninja went for much simpler gameplay, but gameplay they make still murders any competition regardless.

I thought Wo Long was harder in the higher difficulties and especially dlcs than Nioh 2. The humans especially you couldn't just permastun them like in Nioh.

Simpler gameplay doesn't mean casual. DMC 5 has extremely complex combos, more so than any team ninja game and it's still more casual than all of them.

[Budoshi]

i have no allegiance to any game developers company whatsoever. i will buy ghost of yutei too.

[Kirzan]

Publicado originalmente por space:

Publicado originalmente por Treasure Chest:

You are not a true Team Ninja fan.

i'm a "good game" fan, i play what i like, i don't care about politics or feelings or what other people think

Gigachad

To OP: I will pre-order this game 1 hour before release.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Dude, I remember you shilling for this game, and Dragon's Dogma 2.

I ain't never trusting you ever again.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Publicado originalmente por Senki:

Ninja gaiden 2 black is old clunky slop carried by nostalgia and pretty graphics

I'll gladly enjoy this game instead

I'm not a fanboy of any company, if they stop making games that I am interested in then I will simply move on to the other companies that will take their place.

As far as this game is concerned it just looks like a better Wo Long combat-wise. I loved Wo Long so I'm getting this as well.

Yeah this is heresy.
NG is still faster than nearly 90% of action games nowadays, and especially against any games that carry the Souls dodge/parry gene.