[Spoiler for sure] Relationship

[Claireifye]

Is it just me or was the Relationship with Grethe a forced one? I'm not exactly complaining just wondered if overall that was inevitable or i double clicked an option? lol

[Jehnee-san]

I never got this, so nope.

[LeafGreenCat]

Im surprised when I read this everywhere. I never got this strand of story. Im just friends with Grethe.

[Nixmachine]

I think you were forced into a relationship because you choose Romance for your Water seal. I chose Knowledge for my first playthrough and just stayed friends with Grethe

[Action Bastard!]

Not forced for me.

I'll just say that Grethe played basically no role in my first game at all.

Because the Witch Cops murdered her.

[LyreLyre]

I was thinking this too there was another character I was much more interested in that I was curious about but one day Grethe just showed up professed her love then moved in without me having any say so.

[Claireifye]

Originally posted by Waf:

I was thinking this too there was another character I was much more interested in that I was curious about but one day Grethe just showed up professed her love then moved in without me having any say so.

Exactly what happened to me. seems that's the only real relationship choice I can find (which i came to like them a lot when it was all said and done but) Definitely had my eyes on another at first.

[Claireifye]

Originally posted by Action Bastard!:

Not forced for me.

I'll just say that Grethe played basically no role in my first game at all.

Because the Witch Cops murdered her.

Interesting, I think as others said above its because I chose the relationship route that it sorta just happened without my say so for the most part since Grethe was still around. Cool to know that is a option as well though!

[modernglitch1]

I also picked romance for water and had a relationship with Grethe. I actually picked sacrificing your greatest love as my fire payment too. Interestingly Abramar will comment on these choices contradicting each other but allow you to carry on with them.

What I found really odd about how that plays out though is that when you’re en route to the election vote and talking to Abramar about how you’ll end up hating him once he takes his payment, he says something that implies that you shouldn’t assume Grethe will be the one to die and that it could be someone else. It made sense to me since Grethe and Fortuna barely know each other still. I actually thought Patrice would make more sense and be far more painful for Fortuna. But then when it comes time to collect Abramar goes on and takes Grethe’s life and Fortuna is very upset by it. I don’t know, it just felt very bizarre to me because I felt like we really didn’t see much of them as a couple together and I had a hard time believing she was really Fortuna’s greatest love. And especially because like 10 minutes before this Grethe came into the election and betrayed Fortuna by exposing to everyone that she had also summoned a behemoth and essentially tried to undercut the entire election campaign she had been actively helping us with! Maybe it was just because of the water magic? It was just weird because I felt like the game does a great job of establishing Fortuna’s relationships with Patrice, Dahlia, and Jasmine and really made me care about all three of them but the same didn’t really happen with Grethe. Their relationship fet really underdeveloped.

[DestinyNova]

I kind of wish that picking the romance water seal *either* opened up a multitude of romanceable characters *or* made an actual romance/courtship path with Grethe that went beyond just, "and then they were roommates," Especially given that speech at the opening about how romance was more than just love or sex (and the fact that you can have told Grethe you weren't interested in her during the previous conversation).

I am curious if you pick the romance pact if Grethe *can't* die before the water seal is released, if there's a backup for her, or if Abramar just reneges on a part of the deal.

[Uranoblooger]

Yes, I think the same thing, Grethe is hardly an acquaintance for Fortuna, their relationship feels rushed and without foundation, in addition to the fact that there are more colorful or beautiful characters that we meet throughout the game with whom we could date. In my opinion, a romance with Abramar would be something fun to play.

[SKULL]

Agreed on all counts. Since Fortuna and Grethe can make plans to meditate on the cosmic verities together, it seemed like a missed opportunity that that didn't factor more into their relationship? Instead she just becomes your cuddle buddy and says "I love you" a lot? Fortuna is giving aro vibes so I guess it makes sense, but for a visual novel I definitely expected a little more detail in the romantic elements...

Maybe I need to play again while giving Abramar every indication I want him for his body??? Will report back if a combination of that and aphrodisiac peppers gets me anywhere... 🔍🧐

Originally posted by Uranoblooger:

Yes, I think the same thing, Grethe is hardly an acquaintance for Fortuna, their relationship feels rushed and without foundation, in addition to the fact that there are more colorful or beautiful characters that we meet throughout the game with whom we could date. In my opinion, a romance with Abramar would be something fun to play.

Honestly, I assumed there would be multiple potential love interests, up to and including Abramar. That's why I chose Romance for my Water seal in the first place. I wanted to clue the game in that I was interested in that! But alas, only Grethe has the privilege of "becoming one" with a Behemoth. ):

Originally posted by DestinyNova:

I am curious if you pick the romance pact if Grethe *can't* die before the water seal is released, if there's a backup for her, or if Abramar just reneges on a part of the deal.

In my playthrough, I predicted Thea would kill a witch, but had Romance for my water seal, and the witch in question was an unnamed NPC. If I recall correctly, it was during the Jade Monk conflict.So I guess the story won't let Grethe die if she's your soulmate.

Though I guess technically that would be a quick and dirty way to pay the Fire seal in advance, if it were possible...

[Etana]

I feel a little cheated because I wouldn't have chosen "Romance" for the water seal, but it was translated "Passion" in french. We only saw Grethe once before she came and professed her love. The player didn't have any choice so I thought the water seal could be a curse if we choose wrong. But we don't know Fortuna's thoughts on their relationship.

[Loba's Vape Pen]

Yeah a more detailed other option to romance like Ábramhar, Dahlia or Thea. Grethe sadly did feel pretty railroaded to our romance option. I would even liked it if the game paused a bit for Fortuna to find herself for a few days because her mental health is SO PISS POOR we could use more friend interactions into possible romance options. That was my real only like comment/feedback

[Cory Long]

I like to imagine that Grethe used her behemoth's powers to seduce us. It fits narratively and the game never says what she uses the power of her behemoth for.

[voluntarily celibate viera]

yeah been trying to figure out how to get a good ending or get around the price or whatever, and my grand plan was to try and romance Abramhar but that doesn't seem to be an option. oh well will have to try something else.

i do feel like the romance lacks the proverbial taking out to dinner first. kind of needs to be a scene where you go on a date and flirt and whether or not you're together depends on how that goes. was kind of weird how excessively u-haul lesbian the whole thing was.