Is this game worth it?

[Conga Lyne]

I've played the Original RoR for hundreds of hours, and RoR2 even more, but this game feels so... off.

All the graphics are definitely higher fidelity but it feels like they're missing their style.
Children now longer creepily float towards you, rock golems lack their sturdy unwavering tone as they walk inexchange for waving joyfully; everything feels less contrasted, less saturated and more samey overall.

I was really looking forward to this game, but I'm not so sure now after seeing a lot of the monster personalities made more generic.

I'm sure the original RoR1 gameplay's still there, but if there isn't anything ground breaking to compete with the Star Storm mod which boasts a lot of similar and additional features, I'm not so sure it's worth it.

[Tsuki Zero]

What I heard of... No, it's not. The folks that defends it only makes it worse.

[GreatSphynx]

I like 1 more than 2 (both are great) and I'm loving it so far, you can also pick and choose which features from Returns are enabled. If you want the old graphics you can turn them on, a bunch of the new gameplay mechanics are toggleable too (like not having to clear all the enemies to use the teleporter). I think its worth it for $15

[UbrokeMyGrill?]

Originally posted by Conga Lyne:

I've played the Original RoR for hundreds of hours, and RoR2 even more, but this game feels so... off.

All the graphics are definitely higher fidelity but it feels like they're missing their style.
Children now longer creepily float towards you, rock golems lack their sturdy unwavering tone as they walk inexchange for waving joyfully; everything feels less contrasted, less saturated and more samey overall.

I was really looking forward to this game, but I'm not so sure now after seeing a lot of the monster personalities made more generic.

I'm sure the original RoR1 gameplay's still there, but if there isn't anything ground breaking to compete with the Star Storm mod which boasts a lot of similar and additional features, I'm not so sure it's worth it.

Pirate it to find out or just stick with RoR1. So far the added content is good.

[Assassinfaiter]

Yes, RoR: Returns is worth the money, it's a great Remake of RoR 1, built from the ground up with new content and new graphics, visual effects and animations, just like TBOI: Rebirth is a great remake of TBOI: Wrath of the Lamb!

[UbrokeMyGrill?]

Originally posted by Assassinfaiter:

visual effects and animations

The sprites are fantastic, they did good work with those.

[Zechariah]

I've only played for under an hour so far (chalked up about 70hrs on the original I think?). It has definitely lost some charm from the original. In some aspects it is refreshing. A lot of the structures in the original feel lacklustre if you're directly comparing the two but it never really mattered because it was never the focus of the game to begin with, and they conveyed everything necessary just fine anyway. In fact, to me, the simplistic style allowed the game to feel open in an immersive and creepy way which suits the theme of being cast down into an alien territory, and it allowed your imagination fill in the blanks. In RoRR it kind of feels like you're walking in a bubbly themepark designed to attract the eye rather than to create a subtle yet intentional atmosphere.

First impression is that everything does feel more cartoony and I personally don't like that.
I've only played a few trials but I don't really find enjoyment in them, but I can also see what the devs were aiming for and why people would enjoy them. Suffice to say I do have very personalised tastes and I'm very picky when it comes to the games I give the light of day... these days.

It's normal for people to be divided on these types of conversations because what original fans experienced the first time around and their expectations and hopes can fall short and therefore altogether ruin the experience. Newer players don't have those experiences and find the newer additions a mandatory feature integral to their enjoyment.

[Lanceps]

game is literally just an upgrade with alot of new stuff, much like a sequel or a very expansive dlc. There are even more accessibility options and other options you can configure to revert some things back to the 1st game. New items, providence trials, new survivors, skills, some new music, stages, enemies and secrets. I loved the first game, i played it with a good friend and we both think returns is great, its also less than 20 dollars and even on a discount right now so there's really no reason not to try it if you liked the first game. Play a run or three and just refund if you prefer the old stuff.

[Γαῖα]

Considering the base price regardless of current sale its hard to argue it isn't unless your a person not into trinkets and baubles in which case just get the original.

[Conga Lyne]

I've finally got around to buying the game and after trying it out, I ultimately decided it wasn't for me.

My main gripe is readability issues, there's a lot of times enemies sink into the background, there's terrain that looks walkable that has no collision and my second biggest gripe is how unresponsive the controls have been compared to the original.

The artstyle's had an improvement artistically, but I feel like it's gone back a few big steps for readability, there's not much contrast between the playable space and the non-interactive elements of gameplay that it makes it difficult to tell what's something to be weary of and what isn't from a glance.

That said, I feel like this game would be great for people who have never played the original RoR based on other people's experiences, the providence trials were a really fun concept and I liked some of the new enemies they added, but I really hope they fix the control responsiveness down the line.

[Nora's Crimson Colored Nectar]

Originally posted by Conga Lyne:

I've finally got around to buying the game and after trying it out, I ultimately decided it wasn't for me.

My main gripe is readability issues, there's a lot of times enemies sink into the background, there's terrain that looks walkable that has no collision and my second biggest gripe is how unresponsive the controls have been compared to the original.

The artstyle's had an improvement artistically, but I feel like it's gone back a few big steps for readability, there's not much contrast between the playable space and the non-interactive elements of gameplay that it makes it difficult to tell what's something to be weary of and what isn't from a glance.

That said, I feel like this game would be great for people who have never played the original RoR based on other people's experiences, the providence trials were a really fun concept and I liked some of the new enemies they added, but I really hope they fix the control responsiveness down the line.

wait they still have those unwalkable terrains? I thought it was 'mostly' a bug in the original, there was only one part maybe two I remember in the Original, where it would actually lead to an artifact, but I hated it so much, unless you had a ton of hopoo feathers and basically infinite flight you would just lose a run sometimes, because I think you couldn't even die in some spots, you were just stuck.
If they gave owners of the Original a bigger discount, I would've considered buying it. But it just seems like the Original with better graphics and some new features, which isn't enough for me when I already played the game, thanks.

[Guster]

I didnt play ROR1 but i am enjoying this game at least. But maybe not more than 10-20 hours for me personally

[hugi]

it is ROR1 with a content patch and updated graphics basically. Wait for update, they are going to improve the sluggishness of the shooting control

[Kavrick]

Originally posted by hugi:

it is ROR1 with a content patch and updated graphics basically. Wait for update, they are going to improve the sluggishness of the shooting control

I like the way multiple new survivors, new abilities for all characters and new items is a 'content patch' when the game only costs £10, some people are impossible to please.

[Conga Lyne]

Originally posted by Nora's Crimson Colored Nectar:

wait they still have those unwalkable terrains? I thought it was 'mostly' a bug in the original, there was only one part maybe two I remember in the Original, where it would actually lead to an artifact, but I hated it so much, unless you had a ton of hopoo feathers and basically infinite flight you would just lose a run sometimes, because I think you couldn't even die in some spots, you were just stuck.
If they gave owners of the Original a bigger discount, I would've considered buying it. But it just seems like the Original with better graphics and some new features, which isn't enough for me when I already played the game, thanks.

They added new hidden walkable terrains in this game, I remember in the original there was typically a crack in the wall or a piece of "floor" terrain underneath where you could walk to hint about it's existence.

However, one of the hidden walkable areas I found in returns was literally 6 pixels of rope poking out from an already hidden area you need to jump through a solid wall to enter (I only found out about it's existence from claymen kindly showing me) and climb down to get an artifact.

[Starfunk]

I'd honestly say wait a few weeks for patches. The game needs some QoL before I can recommend it to anyone new to the series over 2.

Things the game needs
- bug fixes
- animation cancelling on ability use (it feels mad clunky right now)
- spawn rates fixed for chests
- map sizes or base movement speed adjusted
- a lot of providence trials need adjusting because they jump off the cliff from fun and interesting into aggravating