A few random gameplay questions

[byssheeaston]

I'm mostly quite enjoying the game as I've been a fan of the series for a long time. I actually feel like overall this game is a step forward for the series.

Anyway a few questions I've had:

How much does prestige matter in combat? My advisors are always saying "oh the soldiers won't give their all" but how big of an effect is that really? I've mostly avoided attacking much higher prestige clans so far so I don't have a great sense of the impact.

Same question but for morale in the battles? It doesn't seem to have a huge impact?

Defensive bases - I haven't been able to bait the enemy into needing to attack/siege these. Outside of the main base has anyone found much use for these?

Provision bases - these also seem super situational?

Castle town plan - I find it confusing why they sometimes build and sometimes don't. I get if I'm assigning them to like diplomacy or something but I feel like there are times when I didn't do that and they still aren't upgrading? Or maybe I'm paying insufficient attention and they are handling suggestions I've allowed them?

Defending against covert actions - Is it just the int of the lord? Also are there ways to automatically respond to riots? It's annoying to manually deploy troops but the AI doesn't always seem to respond quickly enough.

Absorb vassals - Can I order this or does it require waiting for a suggestion?

Endings - Worth doing the "conquer everything" vs just accepting the imperial offer? How much longer does it usually take?

Interesting situations to try? - I've done early Oda on ex hard so far, what are some other interesting but doable challenges (could be weaker clans on normal, etc.)

Happy also to answer random questions if I've figured them out.

[BloodyPork]

They attack defensive base if you are weak and they are much stronger. If no one ever attacked your siege base then you should try playing as minor daimyo and see you get ganked by everyone on hard...

I play as Asakura and Miyoshi/Oda/Uesugi attacked my defensive bases non-stop. The AI is not dumb, if you play strong daimyo they aren't going to suicide attack you, because even when they outnumber 5 to 1 defensive base is still a hard battle for them.

Prestige lower your stat if your prestige is lower, you can actually just check it and march a troop vs like yoshiteru ashikaga and see your troop stat is lowered even on the field you can check yourself.


Provision base - I don't use, no need to.

Castle town plan - they always build eventually. Don't forget they need to walk around if you order them around, you can check their current activity. Just leave them alone without asking them to do anything and they will build eventually just be patient.

Defending against covert ops is just int of the lord and traits (eagle eye and hanzo's trait)

Ending is just for achievement.

Just play minor daimyo on hard or ex hard. Normal AI is weak, much worse. If you want something not so hard try something like Satake if that's too easy play like Ujiharu Oda or Anegakoji (in 1567). Asakura is hard too if you play with events and Mitsuhide leaves you (mitsuhide is easy mode due to his trait he will be able to employ talents like Yoshitsugu Otani, Kiyomasa Kato, etc. But even with Mitsuhide event blocked you can try 1567 where you still have to defend defensive base a LOT and then counter attack to expand.

Don't play Oda, Tokugawa, Shimazu, Takeda, Uesugi, Hojo, Mori, Otomo, Date, Miyoshi, Ryuzoji, Imagawa (Yoshimoto), etc these are all way too easy regardless of start date. Dosan Saito is too easy too if he's alive, Even one castle start Chosokabe is kinda too easy and they don't really have talents. If your army has higher stat than the enemy in the beginning that's just too easy because the AI is dumb and you can outplay them, so you have higher stat and you outplay them that's just too easy. Good officers make the game too easy, even if you want to start with more castle play something like Amago.

Clans with good diplomacy start like Azai allied with Oda also makes it too easy, clans that start at the corner like Kakizaki or Satomi is also too easy because you only fight in one front you're never in danger of losing. The most thrill is when you're small and you get ganked by everyone around with no diplomatic friend and need to abuse defensive siege battles.

Another thing I would say is stop using manual battle, it makes the game too easy.

[MinatoWantae]

Absorb vassals - you need to wait for suggestion, faster and better chance if have much higher prestige, manpower and retainer with purple skill (i forgot the name)

[Vin362]

Originally posted by MinatoWantae:

Absorb vassals - you need to wait for suggestion, faster and better chance if have much higher prestige, manpower and retainer with purple skill (i forgot the name)

I believe its flattery and you need to have an officer in your daimyo's province.

[Silva]

Oda is so easy even me, somewhat bad at this game, found it more of a tutorial. I think that's because officers this time have a ridiculous impact in all areas, so Oda having a "dream team" kinda obviates the challenge.

Shimazu was harder for me and I even took a checkmate / game over screen. The initial / regional dominance is manageable because you have some badasses brothers, but once you're out of Kyushu and facing a gigantic Oda force that can send waves after waves of great generals in quick succession, things get tough. Specially because the countdown clock will be ticking for your brothers to get old and die depending on how much time it took for you to get out of Kyushu. And if they die, you're back at mediocre officer pool again.

[MuTaTeDtReE]

Originally posted by Silva:

Oda is so easy even me, somewhat bad at this game, found it more of a tutorial. I think that's because officers this time have a ridiculous impact in all areas, so Oda having a "dream team" kinda obviates the challenge.

Shimazu was harder for me and I even took a checkmate / game over screen. The initial / regional dominance is manageable because you have some badasses brothers, but once you're out of Kyushu and facing a gigantic Oda force that can send waves after waves of great generals in quick succession, things get tough. Specially because the countdown clock will be ticking for your brothers to get old and die depending on how much time it took for you to get out of Kyushu. And if they die, you're back at mediocre officer pool again.

And sadly, Iehisa is the first to die among the brothers too. I don't know how long he can live if his death event (if he gets one this game) didn't trigger though. Toshihisa died soon after too historically iirc. And Toyohisa can potentially die young despite the death event not occurring as well.

[BloodyPork]

Speaking of ending, the game doesn't give me a "clear" after I accept the 3 position ending, so I guess to get the "clear" you need to direct control every castle on the map? That is super tedious. Can anyone confirm this? Or is it because I edited the officers to have S AI level the clear achievement is disabled lol.

I got a clear for the Okehazama scenario and that was when when I tried to get the direct control every castle achievement.

[MuTaTeDtReE]

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

Speaking of ending, the game doesn't give me a "clear" after I accept the 3 position ending, so I guess to get the "clear" you need to direct control every castle on the map? That is super tedious. Can anyone confirm this? Or is it because I edited the officers to have S AI level the clear achievement is disabled lol.

I got a clear for the Okehazama scenario and that was when when I tried to get the direct control every castle achievement.

I've taken the 3 position twice already. Cleared the scenarios for both cases. Even though for both cases I did reload and continue to paint the map. I did go back to check if I cleared the scenario after the 3 positions or not. Which did check out. I did get the Rival Showdown unlock after my first time getting the 3 positions and accepted it.

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by MuTaTeDtReE:

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

Speaking of ending, the game doesn't give me a "clear" after I accept the 3 position ending, so I guess to get the "clear" you need to direct control every castle on the map? That is super tedious. Can anyone confirm this? Or is it because I edited the officers to have S AI level the clear achievement is disabled lol.

I got a clear for the Okehazama scenario and that was when when I tried to get the direct control every castle achievement.

I've taken the 3 position twice already. Cleared the scenarios for both cases. Even though for both cases I did reload and continue to paint the map. I did go back to check if I cleared the scenario after the 3 positions or not. Which did check out. I did get the Rival Showdown unlock after my first time getting the 3 positions and accepted it.

Damn, I guess editing disable clear? That sucks.

[MuTaTeDtReE]

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

Originally posted by MuTaTeDtReE:

I've taken the 3 position twice already. Cleared the scenarios for both cases. Even though for both cases I did reload and continue to paint the map. I did go back to check if I cleared the scenario after the 3 positions or not. Which did check out. I did get the Rival Showdown unlock after my first time getting the 3 positions and accepted it.

Damn, I guess editing disable clear? That sucks.

Yea the warning on achievement-lock for editing somehow disappeared after the recent update. I saw it before the update so I never bothered editing until I got all the achievements.