Next Update after 1.0.8

[Peroroncino]

Should definitely fix Ai Alliances and general Ai issues, that would make this game perfect :)
(Besides an overworked UI ofc, I meant gameplay wise)

[Silva]

I agree the AI issue and UI/QoL features are the main concerns right now. Assuming those get fixed, game will be in a good spot.

What I would like to see after that:

1 - Diplomacy tweaks: more Direct Talks instances; option to ask for/give castles/treasures/gold to allies & vassals;

2 - AI's war tweaks: AIs keeping cohesive armies/not letting player pick their units 2-3 at a time.

[XYZEXPIRED]

Originally posted by Silva:

I agree the AI issue and UI/QoL features are the main concerns right now. Assuming those get fixed, game will be in a good spot.

What I would like to see after that:

1 - Diplomacy tweaks: more Direct Talks instances; option to ask for/give castles/treasures/gold to allies & vassals;

2 - AI's war tweaks: AIs keeping cohesive armies/not letting player pick their units 2-3 at a time.

2. I do recognize the range for their manual battle now, it's so different than SOI. SOI range for manual battle is direct combat to combat unit in the small area adjacent to each other or very close. The range for battle in Awakening is the same range for Massive combat in SOI but without the extra enemy units, it should have include the enemy units far away but somehow, it's only include half of them.

[Drakken]

I admit the AI issue should be a priority, at least to make it easier for smaller clans to find allies.

Observing the smaller clans never attempting to ally each other - or a more powerful clan except to become a vassal, does make me feel like the AI is gimped. Smaller clans never seem to try defending themselves diplomatically by countering greater clans through alliances.

In fact, mediation is right there - smaller clans could use their Goodwill to have a stronger neighbor (or the court) mediate a truce to save themselves.

[Olin011]

Agreed, AI is a priority, at least in the "freeform mode". I want to see AI playing to win and not recreate the same taiga drama over and over again. Also having been able to create alliances while AI cannot do that feels like cheating. I stopped playing Awakening because of that. I see no point.

[BloodyPork]

This lack of AI alliiance thing I wonder if it's a bug or it is an intended design decision. So far it seems like it is a feature rather than a bug considering that it is so obvious and no mention of fixing it (you would think they would fix something like this already after the game been released a year and more if it's a bug).

But it's like super weird. I had AI Tokugawa allying with AI Takeda in 1560 scenario which is non-historical and they keep extending it forever (historically they're supposed to be fighting with each other) during my first playthrough of the game. But second playthrough onwards I've never seen AI make alliance anymore, setting is always historical too.

[BloodyPork]

Watchtowers and defensive bases in general are kinda op too, the biggest issue is actually how the AI would not be able to take any of your defensive bases, ever, it's too easy to defend one with full hp because AI doesn't know how to cycle their troops and isntead everyone bottlenecks into watchtowers and gates and taking free damage.

With gunji system you can make every domain defends with watchtower... so you only need 1 lord and like if you have several watchtowers it doesn't matter how many troops the AI has they will not be able to win, ever.

[XYZEXPIRED]

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

This lack of AI alliiance thing I wonder if it's a bug or it is an intended design decision. So far it seems like it is a feature rather than a bug considering that it is so obvious and no mention of fixing it (you would think they would fix something like this already after the game been released a year and more if it's a bug).

But it's like super weird. I had AI Tokugawa allying with AI Takeda in 1560 scenario which is non-historical and they keep extending it forever (historically they're supposed to be fighting with each other) during my first playthrough of the game. But second playthrough onwards I've never seen AI make alliance anymore, setting is always historical too.

In my game, Oda is ally with Takeda for extended long time. The only thing that missing and would make it better even without fixing the alliance issue is Coalition, at least that is like a 2 year alliance if you join.
They only vassal smaller clan, so I think it is a feature so the smaller clan can survive more. If they are ally with each other (smaller clan-wise), seem like they are going to be dead quicker because the big clan steam roll them.

[Silva]

Japanese voices update was released today for consoles.

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by XYZEXPIRED:

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

This lack of AI alliiance thing I wonder if it's a bug or it is an intended design decision. So far it seems like it is a feature rather than a bug considering that it is so obvious and no mention of fixing it (you would think they would fix something like this already after the game been released a year and more if it's a bug).

But it's like super weird. I had AI Tokugawa allying with AI Takeda in 1560 scenario which is non-historical and they keep extending it forever (historically they're supposed to be fighting with each other) during my first playthrough of the game. But second playthrough onwards I've never seen AI make alliance anymore, setting is always historical too.

In my game, Oda is ally with Takeda for extended long time. The only thing that missing and would make it better even without fixing the alliance issue is Coalition, at least that is like a 2 year alliance if you join.
They only vassal smaller clan, so I think it is a feature so the smaller clan can survive more. If they are ally with each other (smaller clan-wise), seem like they are going to be dead quicker because the big clan steam roll them.

Takeda does make alliance with Oda and/Tokugawa I observe in 1560ish scenarios, as long as it is before their actual fighting like mikatagahara/nagashino.

[redhongkong]

can we stop this fix this fix that talk XD.

this is translated chinese/japanese version thats been launched years ago. the only thing they gonna fix is translation related issue.

they might take into consideration in next "nobunaga 17" game tho

[Erik]

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

Originally posted by XYZEXPIRED:

In my game, Oda is ally with Takeda for extended long time. The only thing that missing and would make it better even without fixing the alliance issue is Coalition, at least that is like a 2 year alliance if you join.
They only vassal smaller clan, so I think it is a feature so the smaller clan can survive more. If they are ally with each other (smaller clan-wise), seem like they are going to be dead quicker because the big clan steam roll them.

Takeda does make alliance with Oda and/Tokugawa I observe in 1560ish scenarios, as long as it is before their actual fighting like mikatagahara/nagashino.

Yeah because of the history :)

[Ger]

Sincerely, I expect a fair amount of surprises in the form of new or corrected features and some extra scenarios.

But I cannot deny I get more and more worried with each passing day...

[Peroroncino]

Originally posted by Ger:

Sincerely, I expect a fair amount of surprises in the form of new or corrected features and some extra scenarios.

But I cannot deny I get more and more worried with each passing day...

I really hope so too, this game has huge potential, I hope they keep the support up for a good while.

[BloodyPork]

I also hope this game gets more update but based on Koei track record i doub't we'll get anything significant other than little bug fix here and there if any. I am not sure how well this game does in JP to warrant 2nd PUK but I sure as hell know that the english (international) sales is not enough to convince them to do that. So my dreaded worry is even if this gets additional expansion it might not get english ala Taishi.

[HippieJesus]

Anyone expecting any kind of feature/balance update has clearly never paid any attention to KOEI's release history. The game is done. Be amazed you got the translations.