Non-Saber Melee Weapons Too Weak

[JokingJames2]

As the title says, I feel that all the new melee weapons besides the saber are just worse than the saber. I understand the idea of trying to make everything have trade-offs to fit with different play-styles, but considering the other melee weapons are gated behind bosses and have to be bought with toothwheels, I don't understand why they are all so much less effective than the stock saber. I don't see any reason the Sword & Shield shouldn't be just a strict upgrade, and the javelin was the most disappointing by far once I realized you both lose damage AND lose the ability to parry/riposte with it - yeah, you can throw it, but that's more trouble than it's worth since you have to run and grab it after. I admit I haven't had the chance to try the mallet, which I've read gives knockback at the cost of damage so it's at least useful for cheesing certain enemies.
Ultimately the issue is that it just doesn't feel worth it to use anything but the saber, and the boss weapons which should feel exciting end up just feeling disappointing instead. Please consider buffing the other melee weapons so there feels like a real sense of progression for melee play styles.

[GODKaiserOs]

Saber,Javelin and Hammer have the same dmg.
All melee weapons besides Saber already got buffed after the initial release.

I made a thread like a year ago were i posted all the numbers for hits needed to kill when the weapons released and if you scroll down a bit in the comments you'll find the updated values after the buff:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1335530/discussions/0/3382788361531784254/

But yes Saber is still the best weapon for melee cause hits after parries do double dmg.

[JokingJames2]

Originally posted by GODKaiserOs:

Saber,Javelin and Hammer have the same dmg.
All melee weapons besides Saber already got buffed after the initial release.

I made a thread like a year ago were i posted all the numbers for hits needed to kill when the weapons released and if you scroll down a bit in the comments you'll find the updated values after the buff:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1335530/discussions/0/3382788361531784254/

But yes Saber is still the best weapon for melee cause hits after parries do double dmg.

Interesting, I could have swore the S&S and Javelin were taking more hits to down enemies. I guess it's just because any time I fight with the saber I mostly go for parries.

[Banana Duck ඞ]

Originally posted by JokingJames2:

You can parry on this game!? How to do that? Do you do this by pressing the melee button just before the enemy melees or? Or do you hold down the button or? Does parrying prevent the enemys melee attack from damaging you?

[KingfossilFER]

Originally posted by Banana Duck ඞ:

Originally posted by JokingJames2:

You can parry on this game!? How to do that? Do you do this by pressing the melee button just before the enemy melees or? Or do you hold down the button or? Does parrying prevent the enemys melee attack from damaging you?

you attack right after blocking an attack

[Banana Duck ඞ]

Originally posted by KingfossilFER:

Originally posted by Banana Duck ඞ:

You can parry on this game!? How to do that? Do you do this by pressing the melee button just before the enemy melees or? Or do you hold down the button or? Does parrying prevent the enemys melee attack from damaging you?

you attack right after blocking an attack

But how do you block an attack? By holding down the melee button?

[Jöggernaut]

Originally posted by Banana Duck ඞ:

But how do you block an attack? By holding down the melee button?

You need to press Reload key immediately before enemy's attack (pressing it too soon won't help)

[KajFlo]

The saber is the essential weapon in this game.

[Zjwex]

I will say this about punching, while it's very very weak, it can be more effective at defeating certain enemies. The glass women, due to their sectional destruction, using punching is much more effective at taking them out in a safer way. If you don't choose to run past them.

[Banana Duck ඞ]

Originally posted by Jöggernaut:

Originally posted by Banana Duck ඞ:

But how do you block an attack? By holding down the melee button?

You need to press Reload key immediately before enemy's attack (pressing it too soon won't help)

Ah so its with the Reload key that its done with

[Hastur]

We can parry? Somebody tell Woolie...