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Then as others have said, save your gems for characters or costumes. I chose to get characters first myself, then a couple of costumes here and there. Be sure to check the character ranking threads as well.
Aside from that DO pull gacha, but only for half price pulls and gacha coins and always 10 pull, you want supporters and weapons for your armory and supporter buffs and you can't get those without pulling. You should otherwise try to rush around four characters so you can put one in each of the following Gosha Academy/Secret Base locations in order of priority: Lounge, Mission Preparation Room, Headmistress's Office, School Field. The first character in each of those has the largest effect but you also want to fill them up in that order. I'll give the reason for why Lounge is most important it will give up to an additional 15.95 AP per hour when maxed out, you get 1 AP every 3 minutes for a total of 20 an hour so it gives you about a 75% boost to hourly AP.
Make sure you are running your new supporters to raise their intimacy, you get a total of 50 additional gems once per supporter when maxing them from the collection menu. Look at the recipes in the Armory for some SR, yellow rarity, weapon sets, they normally have similar looks or effects as well. The SR ones are fairly common and raising the weapon levels alongside having a set effect will grant a fairly sizable attack buff for not too much investment, though it will seem like a lot early on, hence starting on a daily quest Ore day.
Make sure you spend even just a little bit of BP getting magatama; the orange attack ones should be the most important for a new player because you are really hurting for damage early on. Try to polish them up to five and the damage increases are important but you won't have the resources to do heavy rolling but getting a couple +damage to all will carry you for a long time, even if they are .7-1% increases.
For events, focus on the event supporter/weapon more than getting gems from the event gacha, if you can spare the extra AP then go for it but it might slow the rest down and events do come back.
Try to run arena and get to 6,000 points each week for a fairly easy 75 gems and 3,200 arena coins to start working towards arena UR weapons which are very good boosts to your attack and crit and are the easiest UR weapons to max without relying on heavy RNG. Be aware you can only purchase the UR arena weapons while you are actively 6,000 points or above or "Top Class".
There is a lot more that I can't remember off the top of my head, I had made a new account to try the new player experience about a year ago and I intend to do so again in the near future while utilizing the knowledge I have of who to prioritize to progress fastest but I don't want to min-max your fun. The game would be considered a marathon more than a sprint like most gacha games, there are a lot of characters and they are for the most part pretty unique. My best advice is try to find characters you enjoy playing and play them but also don't hesitate to pick up a character that you got a couple weapons from pulls for, you can try the characters out before buying them by clicking on the book and then the dumbbell icons or going to collection and clicking on them and then the dumbbell from there.
EDIT: I keep seeing people say to buy costumes for stats, do not do that. Buy costumes only if you want them but if you are buying them for stats you had better be a whale because those gems are better spent either getting desires and mileage from rolling gacha, or getting lucky and actually getting something good, or buying a new character. The stats from costumes are basically like getting a magatama but it can only be used by a single character and you burn gems for it. Again, only get them if you want them and pretty much pretend the stats on them don't exist the stats from weapons and supporters are significantly more important and valuable.
Going on the note of desires, I personally rely on those heavily to get new limited supporters because my luck is usually pretty bad. You pretty much always want to have 140 or the ability to get 140 desires at any time in case a limited supporter you want comes out and you just can't get them from rolls you just pick them up from the desire shop, done it for like 10+ of them easily and probably more. It is frustrating not getting them from rolls but for me, more frustrating not getting the supporters at all.
Don't use your gems in gacha; just use gacha coins, or just do it with the first roll for a 50% discount.
It's recommended to use gems only to buy characters and skins, because skins increase your stats.
Prioritize having one of each character type so you can complete all types of missions.
Yes, the energy system is horrible, but at least the game constantly gives away supplies to recharge them. I recommend upgrading your "Secret Base"; you can get plenty of supplies there.
If you have any questions, there are many people in the Discord group who can help you.
If you haven't redeemed it yet, this is a code for 1,000 gems, which you can redeem from their website.
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Expiration Date: 2025-05-31
- Do not start from purchasing characters. Choose one and play just one. You do not need more, especially at beginning it's waste of resources and give nothing. Best thing new character give is awaken skills. But you can get the AW to purchase it only from awakened characters. It's hard to get resource for it even if you are on endgame. At begining you want to make your first taimanin on 81 lvl and that should be your focus.
- Costumes are most solid way to get stats for your taimanin. But buy costumes only for your main + rare ones if you like.
- Do use your gems in gacha - but do it methodically. Most important thing you need is really good supporter as main slot for your main taimanin. There is a trap, supporters are rare and you need to know with one you need the most. And they are rarey reapeted.
Second thing is weapon. I recomend to use 500 pulls on weapon gacha. That is because every 100 draws for each weapon you will get Voucher for ultimate weapon. And it include also some Renewal weapons, with are often the best. 5 Vouchers allow to make best weapon with 5 lvl skill.
For subweapon - arena weapon.
Another thing you will get tons of other weapons your character do not need. But it can still be used to greatly strengthen you account via armory. Maxed armory allow to raise ATK of every taimanin in account by over 98%. But even trash in armory give around 50%.
Not used supporters raising HP and some ATK.
Not used weapons below UR for your character and in armory still can be dismantled and this give important resources for enchant.
- AP system in this game is indeed broken. It hurt only new players. Old accounts like mine have basically unlimited AP. That is because of events that give it to the point I do not even what to do with AP items.
- Last thing, never consider gacha game as free game. As long as it's possible to play F2P in this game, it's not really fun. And will force you spend alot more time before you will be able to get in to much more fun content. You do not to be a whale, but some small things helps a lot.
Your first and second paragraphs are egregiously bad advice. 4 characters should be a minimum for the Gosha Academy and Secret Base to get more AP, get raid tickets, max AP and AP use multiplier so you can farm Secret Missions to get enchantment materials sooner and progress faster. It also doesn't waste resources since you can do what I just wrote and actually get more resources by having more characters.
Costumes are a horrifically inefficient way to get more stats on your characters. This leads into your comment about the main supporter being the most important when the weapon is the most important to actually clear content, they have time limits and weapons give offensive stats while supporter can give passives and actives they do not give flat attack or crit to scale your damage. Grabbing Kirara's Viridian Karma Spehere, because that is the only UR Arena weapon I have at max lvl and Slvl but no enchantments, it has 4,089 attack and 3,624 crit. Getting all 16 of Kirara's costumes that give attack and crit will get only 1,347 attack and 2,908 crit with there only being a single costume costing 150 gems and the rest, that I could see since a bunch are seasonal or limited, were 300 gems which means almost 4,000 gems to get a single character less stats than an unenchanted, always available, gem free UR weapon. Oh and getting those costumes gets you no mileage or desires, both of which are invaluable to F2P. Only get costumes if you like the character and costume, otherwise pretend they don't exist, the stats are marginal and will not make but possibly break your progress.
There is no "weapon gacha" if you are talking "pickup gacha" 500 pulls is in the neighborhood of 20,000 gems which is wild and is really wasteful for a F2P to attempt to copy. Rotation gacha which has specific character weapon pulls has no pity system outside the desires so I don't think you meant that one.
say that to my max UR supports/ UR limited weapons.
upgradin base? you talking as if this is some kind of BASE defend game.
you clealry dont dont JACk, about this game
edit* 105hr in game. yeah, that just confirms it.
-Gosha Academy
-Secret Base B1
-Secret Base B2
Also, I don't see them saying gacha itself is a waste of time, I see them saying it's a waste of gems, which it is given the amount of tickets and gacha coins that get handed out.
If you want a new characters to generate more AP you need to lvl-up all of them. Because character level is major factor it give bonus. AP limit can be also raised by your commandor rank and this is done by lvlup your characters and get experience points - so farming "hard" content. Never mind how you look at this, the most effective way is start from one 81 character. Do tower and then start 2-3 more when you have resources to make them to 81 lvl.
Costumes are constant bonus that stack with everything other to character. It's not choose between your Arena weapon but it's weapon + costumes bonus.
As I told, there is a trap with supporters. There is a few that complatly change combat ability of some characters. And if it's aviable need to sacrafacie everything on accound to get at least one coppy because this supporter may not come back again. Example of such supporter is [Massacre] Shinganji Kurenai for Tokiko and few other girls that need Blue build and do not have own sustain. And this is trap because you need to know what exactly you are need and why. You can almost permanently waste your character by miss a certain supporter, or waste resources on the one you do not need.
The "pickup gacha" can be for supporter or for weapon. In weapon case every 100 draws give voucher as bonus.
Yes, it not include ambitious series - this ones are behind heavy paywall. Still not always the ambitious weapons are the best. In many cases renewal weapons are the best and it can be obtained from this voucher.
Are you try to say spend nearly 5k gems for 4 characters that do nothing, just produce some AP is ok but 20k gems for top endgame weapon is "waste"?
You didn't seem to read my original post about AP over time but it isn't hard to even get your AP gain from the Secret Base up to 7 extra an hour or potentially get the items that can give 25 AP per which is still a 30% increase to your AP, which again is enormous for a new player. Generating constant resources being a waste is a really unusual statement to make considering getting the characters to even level 30, or actually all the way to 75 because really strange concept but there is an exp room in the Secret Base 2 that has been in the game, just not in the Secret Base 2 before, since the start. That means after opening the room it costs the bare minimum upgrade resources to get them to max.
Arena Tower doesn't require a lvl 81, it doesn't even require awakening points to clear 51+ floors, I've done it, it's a pain and more time-consuming than without but doable in around 3 months time of a fresh account while having about 7 characters.
Those "top endgame" weapons, who are you talking about? There are about 6 or 7 characters whose best, maybe 1 more thanks to Sora renewal, come from general gacha and the rest are either limited and on long rotations, come from Taima 5 VR, Spinel, or are special ones that came out with them, Ragnarok.
Also again you mention traps from getting certain supporters and specifically name one you can't even get right now because she is a special limited and can't even be gotten from exchange.
waste of time GEMS HOW?
you get DESIRE POINTS
in which, you can SAVE for future limited DESIRE SHOP costumes/UR SUPPORTS
i mean, what else are you gonna spend gems on, huh?
clearly if you and whoever agrees with you, think spending gems on gacha is a "waste of time" must be those collection hoarders if your seriously low on gems, or think its a waste of time on gacha.
Umm you can get desire points from using coins to roll gacha?
you can get some from events and weekly missions...
That's how i do it
Rolling gatcha with gems too expensiv T_T
Yeah but without some measure of luck, which I clearly don't have, you wouldn't get enough desires to offset poor RNG in gacha pulls. Before Lan Xiang I think I have only gotten 1 of the past 7-8 limited supporters from gacha, pulling 20-30 times each, and otherwise needed to spend the 140 desires to get a single one. Then also getting each release costume makes it still rough for me at least to keep up without pulling at least twice or so with gems on rotated in gacha's.