Just noticed these guys straight up ripped the Doom 2016 OST for their launch trailer

[Captain_Kaiju]

https://youtu.be/7_2lSiFfMhA




and here's Mick Gordon's At Doom's Gate, they specifically ripped the part from the 6-10 second mark.

https://youtu.be/HsLOxbLZMy8



not sure where this lies legally, but...c'mon guys. Y'all have all this music and still have to resort to using someone else's work? Worst of all, it's beyond obvious it's not even from the same composer as Dread Templar it sounds completely different, and the sudden change to the actual OST is very jarring and sloppy.

[Danotris]

Are you serious ? You are literally accusing them over 4 seconds of music.

4. Seconds.

[Captain_Kaiju]

Originally posted by Danotris:

Are you serious ? You are literally accusing them over 4 seconds of music.

4. Seconds.

That is still someone else's work though. And sloppily tossed in at that.

[ObamaBinBiden (No Monitor)]

Damn. I never really watched the trailer. But pretty sure that's almost a straight up rip from the OST. 4 seconds or not, if you ripped 4 seconds of stairway to heaven, not just the notes, but from the actual original sound file itself, people would lose their ♥♥♥♥. Not a good look, should probably take that trailer down.

[76561199011830944]

Hello!

The track used in the trailer wasn't made for the game and was bought the license for {LINK REMOVED} this track from music library to be used only in the trailer. It wasn't our intention to plagiarize anyone else's work, we simply chose a track that seemed to fit the atmosphere and pace of the game.

[Captain_Kaiju]

Originally posted by 1C_David:

Hello!

The track used in the trailer wasn't made for the game and was bought the license for this track[www.premiumbeat.com] from music library to be used only in the trailer. It wasn't our intention to plagiarize anyone else's work, we simply chose a track that seemed to fit the atmosphere and pace of the game.

uuuuh that's not the part we're discussing at all. We're specifically talking about the first few seconds of your trailer, which CLEARLY uses a few seconds from Mick Gordon's At Doom's Gate, FOLLOWED by this purchased Speed Demon track.


The Speed Demon track isn't the problem at all, it's the part BEFORE THAT where y'all clearly and sloppily used Mick Gordon's work for your "Dread Templar" Title part before your purchased music was used. THAT is the issue here.

[Captain_Kaiju]

Again, listen to the first few seconds of your trailer before the Speed Demon track starts, then listen to the posted Mick Gordon song starting at 0:06. You guys literally ripped it right from the track.

[Löthar Storm]

Sounds like a randomly generated synthesizer algorithm sine wave preset that doesn't require inputting a sequence of notes, tapping keys, telepathy, or otherwise. Maybe rotating a flipping knob. Fairly certain these days that this electro snippet would be the least of his concern. Doom 2016's Soundtrack is mighty damn good. Doom Eternal's soundtrack on the other hand sucks under anyone's musicianship. Least of all Mick's, however. It's not his fault as he had plenty of goading, pissing & moaning from Marty & Beth standing over his shoulder to throw together a generic wanker RATM meets korn meets dehumanized techno soundtrack in the first place. And then at the end of the day they replaced with a total WEAKSAUCE Levy main menu music. Doom Eternal's probably worst music of Mick's entire career & the onus ain't even on him. Wish him all the best.

[Zounderth]

0:06 - 0:011 from Mick's work was taken and used here. just wow. it's important to understand it is not so much about the 6 seconds taken, but it's about honor among artists. One does not simply rip off another artist's work and call it a day. So not cool man. As an artist myself, it's a crappy feeling when others steal your work. This may seem very trivial to other people but I can assure you it is not.

The dev's reply is just dodging the actual issue and pretends to not get the point. Seriously, if this is your first rodeo in making games, my advice is that you need to be honest with your players.

Also, you can just NOT use Mick's track and just use the purchased track from the music library. The track you purchased already have the transition of a muted intro to a full blown heavy guitar and drums. You don't really need to do anything really, just line up the opening title to the in-game footage. I'm sure a YouTuber somewhere can edit this lol.

[Captain_Kaiju]

Originally posted by Zounderth:

0:06 - 0:011 from Mick's work was taken and used here. just wow. it's important to understand it is not so much about the 6 seconds taken, but it's about honor among artists. One does not simply rip off another artist's work and call it a day. So not cool man. As an artist myself, it's a crappy feeling when others steal your work. This may seem very trivial to other people but I can assure you it is not.

The dev's reply is just dodging the actual issue and pretends to not get the point. Seriously, if this is your first rodeo in making games, my advice is that you need to be honest with your players.

Also, you can just NOT use Mick's track and just use the purchased track from the music library. The track you purchased already have the transition of a muted intro to a full blown heavy guitar and drums. You don't really need to do anything really, just line up the opening title to the in-game footage. I'm sure a YouTuber somewhere can edit this lol.

I ended up contacting Mick Gordon, since he's set up a very easy way to do so! Unfortunately, while he did say good job catching this, it's no longer his decision where to go with it. The soundtrack belongs to Id Software....who I feel won't be as polite over this copyright infringement as Mick would.


Just a heads up devs, I haven't contacted Id yet...but it's in your best interest to get this sorted out before they do catch wind. Cause that's gonna be a C&D or full blown lawsuit for sure. It's appalling how the devs can't even read for comprehension what we're trying to say here, it's either extremely amateurish or they're just trying to play stupid and hope it'll blow by. Spoilers: It won't.

[?Syntax Error]

Originally posted by Danotris:

Are you serious ? You are literally accusing them over 4 seconds of music.

4. Seconds.

Claims have been made for that in the past. Even if you would randomly make a guitar song or work with a synthesiser and it would sound the same.
Copyright claims are also valid for 70 years, even if the original artist has died.

In all fairness it would be harsh, but it would be best to remove those 4 seconds of music, it won't change much anyway.

[el helicoptero]

Everybody in here forgetting that the original DOOM (from the 90's) soundtrack is plagiarised heavy metal bands popular songs? So they are just continuing the doom tradition!

[Captain_Kaiju]

Originally posted by el helicoptero:

Everybody in here forgetting that the original DOOM (from the 90's) soundtrack is plagiarised heavy metal bands popular songs? So they are just continuing the doom tradition!

And maybe that's why the only song from those classic Doom games ever reused is At Doom's Gate? God forbid game devs learned a thing or two from that almost 30 year time gap lol

[Reverend Slapimus]

They should probably change the music after this. Whoever made that track needs to be banned from that platform for stealing sh*t.

[Captain_Kaiju]

Originally posted by Party Time!:

They should probably change the music after this. Whoever made that track needs to be banned from that platform for stealing sh*t.

Who made that track was Mick Gordon, the original composer. I think you mean "Whomever made this trailer and chose to steal this song" :p

[Captain_Kaiju]

Originally posted by Party Time!:

Originally posted by Captain_Kaiju:

Who made that track was Mick Gordon, the original composer. I think you mean "Whomever made this trailer and chose to steal this song" :p

You misinterpreted my post. 1c_David said they bought it from www.premiumbeat.com

gotcha, my b