Only 5% of all players have the "play through the game" achievment.

[Chocos Ramabotti]

Even the first and easiest one possess only approximately 57% of all players under this it becomes less and less, are people not interesting in playing the game further or is everyone just using the unlimited lifes cheat?

[dancle]

The game ist out for only 3 days, so give the people time to finish the game, not everyone playthrough at the first day, and also the game really frustrating starts at the radaxien castle-boss, i saw many people break up on this boss (including myself).

Btw: The infinitive life mode is not a cheat, its an official gameplay feature. Nothing whats hidden or need to be activated by a secret button combo.

[Chocos Ramabotti]

Originally posted by dancle:

Btw: The infinitive life mode is not a cheat, its an official gameplay feature. Nothing whats hidden or need to be activated by a secret button combo.

yeah but it behaves like a cheat and renders the challenge of the game trivial, so I will just call it like that.

[dancle]

Its only kinda a "Easy Mode", but not really cheats, makes the game less annoying, nothing what really change the game. If you have always startover a complete level only to fight a boss again, makes this the game not better. You have also fight the bosses to win the game. Nothing what breaks the game or make it too easy. But cheat, no way, thats wrong. Cheat would be infinte hits or a god where you can't die. But this makes the only less annoying, nothing more, so its not a cheat. Esp. when its intended and wanted by the devs.

[Coldflame H (aka H Hog)]

Cheats are basically "gameplay features" by design (at least, when they're put in deliberately). Otherwise they're exploits or glitches.

As far as Radaxian Castle boss (Gooseka 2?) goes... when you get the pattern down he's actually quite easy -- you can literally run up and punch him a bunch of times before he even throws the first ball, hang back for a second til he threw it, then run up again and finish him off ;)

[Chocos Ramabotti]

Originally posted by dancle:

Its only kinda a "Easy Mode", but not really cheats, makes the game less annoying, nothing what really change the game. If you have always startover a complete level only to fight a boss again, makes this the game not better. You have also fight the bosses to win the game. Nothing what breaks the game or make it too easy. But cheat, no way, thats wrong. Cheat would be infinte hits or a god where you can't die. But this makes the only less annoying, nothing more, so its not a cheat. Esp. when its intended and wanted by the devs.

Ok, you clearly haven't played the game, so you don't know how this works.

Unlike the original this remakes gives you infinite continues from startup, so at worst you have to play a short level again.

The infinite lives option, just give you infinite lives, basically, but according to the structure of Alex Kidd, this has huge influence.

So Alex Kidd does not feature any designated checkpoints. Instead, if you die, you will lose one of your lifes and the game places you immediately before the obstacle you've died.
So normally you have 3 starting lifes to beat an level, there is no throwback, but you have just these 3 lifes.

With the infinite lifes option you have no throwback and every time you die you get immediately placed before the obstacle, so this is bascially an god mode and allows for infinite hits. It's makes the game trivial and effortless to complete, if this isn't a cheat, what is it then?

[Coldflame H (aka H Hog)]

Originally posted by Chocos Ramabotti:

Unlike the original this remakes gives you infinite continues from startup, so at worst you have to play a short level again.

....and lose all your cash and items.
Which the infinite lives also helps avoid.

[🐺-Wolferatus-🐺]

i finished the game a few days ago and got not that achivement, maby some bugs or you only get it if you find the island

[dancle]

Originally posted by Chocos Ramabotti:

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Ok, you clearly haven't played the game, so you don't know how this works.

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I played already many times original and few times in the remake, and this is nothing more than an easy mode, but not a cheat at all. "Short" level unlike you are at last castle, this level isn't short at all and frusting too, if you need to redone this after every game over. Unless in the original game, there is no continue mode.

Saying i haven't played the game is only stupid, nothing more.

[Chocos Ramabotti]

Originally posted by dancle:

Originally posted by Chocos Ramabotti:

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Ok, you clearly haven't played the game, so you don't know how this works.

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I played already many times original and few times in the remake, and this is nothing more than an easy mode, but not a cheat at all. "Short" level unlike you are at last castle, this level isn't short at all and frusting too, if you need to redone this after every game over. Unless in the original game, there is no continue mode.

Saying i haven't played the game is only stupid, nothing more.

I'm curious you haven't quoted more than the first paragraph like you didn't read my posting. I already explained to you why this goes way beyond an easy mode.
So sure maybe you have played the remake (but not on steam) and are not aware how huge the difference is, maybe just trying out for yourself.

[dancle]

Originally posted by Chocos Ramabotti:

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I'm curious you haven't quoted more than the first paragraph like you didn't read my posting. I already explained to you why this goes way beyond an easy mode.
So sure maybe you have played the remake (but not on steam) and are not aware how huge the difference is, maybe just trying out for yourself.

I played already both modes, and don't see much difference, only differnce is not to start all over again. You also need fight bosses, run over obstacles or avoid enemies. It makes the game easier, but waaay beyond a god mode, a god mode allows you run through the level without effort and doing noting to win the game. This mode only sets you back on annother point of the level and you don't have to run all over again. you lose nothing be using this, this is only an easy-mode, but far, far away from god mode. Im not sure if you really know what god-mode in a game really do.

[Chocos Ramabotti]

Originally posted by dancle:

Originally posted by Chocos Ramabotti:

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I'm curious you haven't quoted more than the first paragraph like you didn't read my posting. I already explained to you why this goes way beyond an easy mode.
So sure maybe you have played the remake (but not on steam) and are not aware how huge the difference is, maybe just trying out for yourself.

I played already both modes, and don't see much difference, only differnce is not to start all over again. You also need fight bosses, run over obstacles or avoid enemies. It makes the game easier, but waaay beyond a god mode, a god mode allows you run through the level without effort and doing noting to win the game. This mode only sets you back on annother point of the level and you don't have to run all over again. you lose nothing be using this, this is only an easy-mode, but far, far away from god mode. Im not sure if you really know what god-mode in a game really do.

It sets you exactly right before the obstacle you've died. Even if its not a god mode, it's a closer to god any human can become.

[Coldflame H (aka H Hog)]

Clearly you two have different views on what does or doesn't constitute a "cheat mode".
Dancle is of the opinion that a cheat has to be "hidden" to count as a cheat, whereas Chocos believes that any feature that disables certain achievements and makes the game easier beyond its original scope is enough to count as a cheat.
Neither of these two views are inherently wrong, it's just a matter of opinion.

[🌌 LetsPlayNintendoITA 🌀]

there are people that bought it and haven't played it yet, mostly with the summer deals, as I haven't yet cause I've others I'm playing right now. But I intend to fully Let's Play the game soon

I'm waiting for the fist patch too as many are probably

[ZOOCH716]

I'm sure most people who grew up with the game will play without the lives toggle and most new players will because its just a bit of a gaming history lesson for them. (most not all)

As long as the achievements are disabled when the 99 lives are used it doesn't bother me at all, let everyone just have fun how they enjoy playing and with some practice people using the lives toggle may disable it one day.

99 lives wont help in the boss rush mode either way, its not that hard but only punches are aloud(no items) and you have to make it through all four bosses without getting touched.

IMO they did a great job with this DX edition, hopefully they can do Shinobi World one day

[Coldflame H (aka H Hog)]

Originally posted by ZOOCH716:

As long as the achievements are disabled when the 99 lives are used it doesn't bother me at all

I think the only achievement that's actually disabled is the one for finishing the game. Others are still obtainable in Infinite Lives mode, which is kinda handy for achievements like beating the game without buying any shop items.