Game needs an evil uncle Fred

[El Presidente]

Every time i restart the game new and read the plot.... and see the image of Fred, the fake white teeth, the "million dollars" smile and the way he delivers his lines ...

I always end up with:

The Game need to have a plot-twist around the middle or endgame were Fred turns out to be evil. Just using you, getting you indebted or secretly all your businesses up onto that point were listed in his name and he takes it all away.

You go to the bank and because of your reputation up until this point ( running profitable businesses) you get a high interest loan and have to build your empire up from scratch.

The difficulty would spike, you are in dire need of money, interest is high and worst of all: you are homeless in NYC.

But you know how to run a business, how to turn a profit, you get back on your feet.

Right as you payback your loan and start to see a glimpse of hope: Ding Dong!

Its "uncle" Fred and he mean business. Undercutting your prices -hard- and recruiting your best employees, getting you into trouble in any way he can. He is not just a competitor. He is THE Competitor.

In the End you finally beat uncle Fred by buying up his last business. You drive him out of the game. You get one last phone call:

A sobbing uncle Fred, confessing that he killed your Grandma in order to inherit your late grandfathers fortune. Why? cause he was in dire need of money. The all knowing mastermind, the successful business man? it was all a lie. Fred was close to bankruptcy and all this time he was just throwing loads and loads of money at the problem..... you.

Yes you. You were meant to inherit the vast fortune that is now gone. Fred was afraid of someone finding what he did.... getting rid of grandma and the last will. He was afraid to loose it all. to him you were never a relative in need.... oh no ... to him you were always a threat. And all of this just because Uncle Fred had: BIG AMBITIONS

[motrhed3]

I like this idea, Dave...

[WordCobbler]

Just my two cents... Uncle Fred is meant to be the tutorial to help you learn things. He's getting an update in 0.9 I think it is and I'm looking forward to that.

I personally don't like the idea of an evil Uncle Fred. The idea of an evil Uncle falls in with the idea of crime in the city. We have rivalries and theft mechanics that have been added. This isn't GTA or Saints Row or any of the more recent simulator games that seem to just be crime.

The original focus of the game was meant to be on legal businesses and building up from there to your own production chains as well as retail outlets and office based businesses. I bought this game to set up and manage businesses and hopefully make a profit. It ticks off all those little spreadsheet and design things that I can't do in real life.

In the future if they wanted to add a preset scenario/challenge that included all these crime ideas that was optional that would be one thing. Personally that's not why I bought this game (or why I constantly recommend it) and I wouldn't be interested in such a feature.

I don't go into the crime game forums and insist on being able to run legal businesses in them. I also don't ask for multiplayer in single player games (or vice versa!). I feel like this is an awesome single player management game and it should shine for exactly what it is. :)

[El Presidente]

Originally posted by WordCobbler:

Just my two cents... Uncle Fred is meant to be the tutorial to help you learn things. He's getting an update in 0.9 I think it is and I'm looking forward to that.

I personally don't like the idea of an evil Uncle Fred. The idea of an evil Uncle falls in with the idea of crime in the city. We have rivalries and theft mechanics that have been added. This isn't GTA or Saints Row or any of the more recent simulator games that seem to just be crime.

The original focus of the game was meant to be on legal businesses and building up from there to your own production chains as well as retail outlets and office based businesses. I bought this game to set up and manage businesses and hopefully make a profit. It ticks off all those little spreadsheet and design things that I can't do in real life.

In the future if they wanted to add a preset scenario/challenge that included all these crime ideas that was optional that would be one thing. Personally that's not why I bought this game (or why I constantly recommend it) and I wouldn't be interested in such a feature.

I don't go into the crime game forums and insist on being able to run legal businesses in them. I also don't ask for multiplayer in single player games (or vice versa!). I feel like this is an awesome single player management game and it should shine for exactly what it is. :)

It s not about "Crime Ideas"

It is about giving the Game ...you know.... a Story that is more than: Grandma dead, you sad, here game, go make money.

And for the evil fred:

He ties into the Rivalry Gamemechanic. The way i envision it, he would just crank it up. Like the worst rival * 2.

The thing is: once you know what to do, it can become more of a grind then anything. Basicly you know what to do, when to do it, and are just waiting for x money because: win game.

But now it is about: Destroying Fred who killed your Grandman..... motivation.

+ a difficulty spike brings in some new wind that makes the game interessting again.

[jhughes]

I get it, but I agree with WordCobbler. I don't want an Uncle Fred who is a jerk to his Nephew who just lost his Grandmother.

Sometimes it is OK for a game to show family in a positive light.

[El Presidente]

Originally posted by jhughes:

I get it, but I agree with WordCobbler. I don't want an Uncle Fred who is a jerk to his Nephew who just lost his Grandmother.

Sometimes it is OK for a game to show family in a positive light.

fair enough

[jon_kim25]

Originally posted by El Presidente:

Originally posted by jhughes:

I get it, but I agree with WordCobbler. I don't want an Uncle Fred who is a jerk to his Nephew who just lost his Grandmother.

Sometimes it is OK for a game to show family in a positive light.

fair enough

However, this sounds like a great challenge mode.

[GorgonCZ]

Evil is quite subjective. It does not need to be crime and it does not need to be cruel torturing of puppies.

But a little heartless capitalism and disregard for poor schmucks would be funny spice to the story.