The casino probably needs to go...

[cozmosis]

I have about 45-50 hours at this point, my first play-through is making about 700K a day and it's all been fairly straight forward. I have a lot of feedback i'd like to give (clothing shops are all that matters), but to stay on topic the casino is just game breaking.

I was reading in another thread how there is an 'exploit' that you could save scum to an extent to use the slot machine, but with no disrespect to that poster it's barely relevant for the effort it would take.

Blackjack is far far worse - i went from having around 4 million (net worth of around 25 million) to easily within 10 minutes or so to being way over 100 million just on blackjack. You don't even have to save scum abuse it if you have a bit of capital - just play it smart and the AI always seems to lose, you can make 10's of millions a minute no problem.

Stuff like this always hurts games in my opinion - another example i can think of is X3 Albion Prelude - the moment you can start trading stocks, you can just afk the game and buy/sell every few hours and make infinite money. These systems never really work well and are easily abused - the same is the case with the casino here - couple with the other topic saying it can be abused on the slots, maybe the casino is just not an idea that works at this time.

I've immensely enjoyed playing this game, but the 'end game' tends to dissolve into not much more than just ordering stocks every few days and time skipping; but then I ask myself what i'm time skipping for when i can go and make whatever amount of money I want, whenever I want.

[Sistermatic™]

Don't go there?

[Nayroy]

I love it. I make over 400m in one night, but sadly that's gonna get changed.

[Decker]

In the next update, the save will be removed from the boat.
The link is in your main screen of the game to the road map...top right.

[Sistermatic™]

Started new game, just lost $40k in the casino, everything I had. Had to walk home

And... just lost another $150,000 . Kept a taxi fare this time ;)

[Kyle]

boat definitely needs a limit imo, i don't really care about the saving but what casino lets you win billions and doesn't care (this would work out as a pretty good custom game slider)

'don't go there' doesn't really work, if there are bugs, just don't trigger them, if main things are just unbalanced, don't use the main features, etc

doesn't really make sense to leave in easily exploitable and unbalanced content just because people can choose not to use it, if you want to cheat, use cheats, don't leave it in the main game/campaign readily available for everyone else

we can say devs should work on more 'meaningful' content, but isn't that just what's meaningful to the person saying it? i mean on the original casino post, the developers literally agreed with the OP and asked for ideas on how to solve it

for me, what i care about are the balance changes coming to the over powered stores like clothing shops and the future blueprint update

[Mondo Topless]

I don't use it, but I can see it being a tempting distraction for the campaign player.

Blackjack was always my go-to on GTA:San Andreas, and one non-invasive way to deal with betting games is to have a max bet per hand and a house bank total (affected by difficulty/hidden/slightly randomized) that depletes and cannot be drawn from anymore until it is rerolled by a trigger.

For the slots, how bout a progressive jackpot that takes time to build, again fast or slow depending on difficulty with a slight randomization like bursts or slumps?

Just throwing stuff at the wall.

[Jiamil]

Was also about to mention GTA: San Andreas. There was a save right in front of the Casino and you could simply save scum your way to millions, too -> Save, play with 1mil roulette on number, win 40mil, repeat. It's your choice to do or not. Wasn't even early access that GTA game and never got changed iirc. But who still knows GTA, right? That probably broke their neck, too.

[jhughes]

I never do the casino except as required by the story line in story mode.