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Hi, i wonder if it's better for the income to fill a office with 50 lawyer or as i saw on a online guide ,recruit only around 33/34 because apparently we're not able tu receive all the demand that we can see on MarketInsider.

And btw, for people who have a great knowledge of law firms, what is the best income you know for an office for each district?
Originally posted by Sarsgamer:
Originally posted by LeFanDeFrite:
Originally posted by No gf:
I don’t believe there is a “magical number” of lawyers per district. You can effectively establish law firms in various locations because they tend to be profitable.

The real issue lies with the programming and graphic design business because their hourly charges are so low compared to a law firm's. As of v0.6 spamming multiple law firms in a district ironically still makes more money than diversifying and building one office type of each kind.

Regardless of demand, law firms remain profitable even in districts where the demand is low.

If you want to maximize profit I suggest you take a look at the online cheat sheet and readjust the open hours for your law firm. Office based businesses tend not to get any customers during weekends so you might want to toggle Saturday off for your law firms.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3360421208

Hey thanks you for your answer, yeah i already tried graphics and programers but the income are 4 time lower than for lawyer firm so i will not do more i guess.

on your screen i can see all of your lawyer firm give you 20k/each ,but is this all of them? you haven't establised any lawyer in a bigger building who will give a bigger income? bc for me, yesterday i just put a lawyer firm in a K1 building, ,who seem to give me 50k/day, but i don't understand how some people reach like 200 or 300k per day and per office.
I will try to follow your advice

200k to 300k per day may have been some older versions of the game (might still be able to in Midtown).

I just looked at my biggest law office (50 customer) which is located in lower Manhattan and it makes like 80k a day. And in comparison I have a graphics design in Hells, also 50 customer, that is making almost 40k per day.

While yes the law offices will make more it's still good to diversify, especially when there's a demand for something.

Any of the offices types are crucial to have maxed out skills and then raise the price when all satisfaction is 100%. While true for all business types it just seems more crucial for offices.

If you're not aware each district has different max prices so you can sell things much higher in Midtown compared to Garment District. https://biggerambitions.com/ has some useful things on pricing and other things.

Also try to use just the high traffic office buildings for the actual customer businesses and your HQ's put them in low traffic ones since they don't have any customer demand. On day 240 of my current save and I have 4 HQ offices.. first one was just the initial one (small office) which I could close and merge into a new one (large office) that is my logistics HQ (purchasing agent and logistics agents) then another for HR staff (large office) which will fill up eventually and then another for headhunters (medium office).
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No gf Nov 4, 2024 @ 6:48pm 
I don’t believe there is a “magical number” of lawyers per district. You can effectively establish law firms in various locations because they tend to be profitable.

The real issue lies with the programming and graphic design business because their hourly charges are so low compared to a law firm's. As of v0.6 spamming multiple law firms in a district ironically still makes more money than diversifying and building one office type of each kind.

Regardless of demand, law firms remain profitable even in districts where the demand is low.

If you want to maximize profit I suggest you take a look at the online cheat sheet and readjust the open hours for your law firm. Office based businesses tend not to get any customers during weekends so you might want to toggle Saturday off for your law firms.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3360421208
Last edited by No gf; Nov 4, 2024 @ 6:52pm
LeFanDeFrite Nov 5, 2024 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by No gf:
I don’t believe there is a “magical number” of lawyers per district. You can effectively establish law firms in various locations because they tend to be profitable.

The real issue lies with the programming and graphic design business because their hourly charges are so low compared to a law firm's. As of v0.6 spamming multiple law firms in a district ironically still makes more money than diversifying and building one office type of each kind.

Regardless of demand, law firms remain profitable even in districts where the demand is low.

If you want to maximize profit I suggest you take a look at the online cheat sheet and readjust the open hours for your law firm. Office based businesses tend not to get any customers during weekends so you might want to toggle Saturday off for your law firms.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3360421208

Hey thanks you for your answer, yeah i already tried graphics and programers but the income are 4 time lower than for lawyer firm so i will not do more i guess.

on your screen i can see all of your lawyer firm give you 20k/each ,but is this all of them? you haven't establised any lawyer in a bigger building who will give a bigger income? bc for me, yesterday i just put a lawyer firm in a K1 building, ,who seem to give me 50k/day, but i don't understand how some people reach like 200 or 300k per day and per office.
I will try to follow your advice
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Sarsgamer Nov 5, 2024 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by LeFanDeFrite:
Originally posted by No gf:
I don’t believe there is a “magical number” of lawyers per district. You can effectively establish law firms in various locations because they tend to be profitable.

The real issue lies with the programming and graphic design business because their hourly charges are so low compared to a law firm's. As of v0.6 spamming multiple law firms in a district ironically still makes more money than diversifying and building one office type of each kind.

Regardless of demand, law firms remain profitable even in districts where the demand is low.

If you want to maximize profit I suggest you take a look at the online cheat sheet and readjust the open hours for your law firm. Office based businesses tend not to get any customers during weekends so you might want to toggle Saturday off for your law firms.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3360421208

Hey thanks you for your answer, yeah i already tried graphics and programers but the income are 4 time lower than for lawyer firm so i will not do more i guess.

on your screen i can see all of your lawyer firm give you 20k/each ,but is this all of them? you haven't establised any lawyer in a bigger building who will give a bigger income? bc for me, yesterday i just put a lawyer firm in a K1 building, ,who seem to give me 50k/day, but i don't understand how some people reach like 200 or 300k per day and per office.
I will try to follow your advice

200k to 300k per day may have been some older versions of the game (might still be able to in Midtown).

I just looked at my biggest law office (50 customer) which is located in lower Manhattan and it makes like 80k a day. And in comparison I have a graphics design in Hells, also 50 customer, that is making almost 40k per day.

While yes the law offices will make more it's still good to diversify, especially when there's a demand for something.

Any of the offices types are crucial to have maxed out skills and then raise the price when all satisfaction is 100%. While true for all business types it just seems more crucial for offices.

If you're not aware each district has different max prices so you can sell things much higher in Midtown compared to Garment District. https://biggerambitions.com/ has some useful things on pricing and other things.

Also try to use just the high traffic office buildings for the actual customer businesses and your HQ's put them in low traffic ones since they don't have any customer demand. On day 240 of my current save and I have 4 HQ offices.. first one was just the initial one (small office) which I could close and merge into a new one (large office) that is my logistics HQ (purchasing agent and logistics agents) then another for HR staff (large office) which will fill up eventually and then another for headhunters (medium office).
Steve Cox Nov 8, 2024 @ 8:33am 
I find law offices are cash cows. In the early game, when a rival is losing a lot of money in a law firm (10 or 50 size) I'll buy at a big discount. I either operate the law firm (only full time employees, only weekdays and low price works for me) or if it was a steal and its time I fire all the employees and I have a fully outfitted headquarters.
Testiküler Nov 16, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
I am giving you the biggest secret of employee based businesses:
1st step: Use headhunter and find the lowest skilled lawyers/designers etc
2nd step: train them for like a week and make them %100
3rd step: now you have the lowest costing employees and now you can max profit
Testiküler Nov 16, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by LeFanDeFrite:
Originally posted by No gf:
I don’t believe there is a “magical number” of lawyers per district. You can effectively establish law firms in various locations because they tend to be profitable.

The real issue lies with the programming and graphic design business because their hourly charges are so low compared to a law firm's. As of v0.6 spamming multiple law firms in a district ironically still makes more money than diversifying and building one office type of each kind.

Regardless of demand, law firms remain profitable even in districts where the demand is low.

If you want to maximize profit I suggest you take a look at the online cheat sheet and readjust the open hours for your law firm. Office based businesses tend not to get any customers during weekends so you might want to toggle Saturday off for your law firms.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3360421208

Hey thanks you for your answer, yeah i already tried graphics and programers but the income are 4 time lower than for lawyer firm so i will not do more i guess.

on your screen i can see all of your lawyer firm give you 20k/each ,but is this all of them? you haven't establised any lawyer in a bigger building who will give a bigger income? bc for me, yesterday i just put a lawyer firm in a K1 building, ,who seem to give me 50k/day, but i don't understand how some people reach like 200 or 300k per day and per office.
I will try to follow your advice
that 300kday is because some people play 60 days a year mod and some play 360 days in a year.
LeFanDeFrite Nov 18, 2024 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by Testiküler:
Originally posted by LeFanDeFrite:

Hey thanks you for your answer, yeah i already tried graphics and programers but the income are 4 time lower than for lawyer firm so i will not do more i guess.

on your screen i can see all of your lawyer firm give you 20k/each ,but is this all of them? you haven't establised any lawyer in a bigger building who will give a bigger income? bc for me, yesterday i just put a lawyer firm in a K1 building, ,who seem to give me 50k/day, but i don't understand how some people reach like 200 or 300k per day and per office.
I will try to follow your advice
that 300kday is because some people play 60 days a year mod and some play 360 days in a year.
first thanks for your advice on the first message, and you mean people divide their income they see on the tax? it not seem to be logic
GunRunner89X Nov 18, 2024 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Testiküler:
I am giving you the biggest secret of employee based businesses:
1st step: Use headhunter and find the lowest skilled lawyers/designers etc
2nd step: train them for like a week and make them %100
3rd step: now you have the lowest costing employees and now you can max profit
Once I have my first head hunter, I stop training employees and search for them as close to 100% (except cleaners) as I can get. I know their wages end up being higher vs employing low and training up, but getting 100% customer satisfaction ASAP maximises profits for me.

Regarding lawyers, I have 100 going in the 50 an hour office 14 hours a day Monday to Friday - yes, that is 100 lawyers per firm. On hard difficulty, all offices get over $100k a day, with Midtown getting close to $200k (around $180k I think?)

I've found success with increasing prices per district using the below multipliers, with 100% customer happiness in each district, based on the base cost of goods/services before you edit them when making a new business.

Lower Manhattan/Garment District: 115%
Hell's Kitchen/the-other-one (can't recall name right now): 120%.
Midtown: 150%

Though that being said, I always make sure my prices are the lowest per district, so the above multipliers may be reduced - maximises customers numbers thus maximises profits!
Last edited by GunRunner89X; Nov 18, 2024 @ 2:34pm
Sarsgamer Nov 18, 2024 @ 6:52pm 
Originally posted by GunRunner89X:
Originally posted by Testiküler:
I am giving you the biggest secret of employee based businesses:
1st step: Use headhunter and find the lowest skilled lawyers/designers etc
2nd step: train them for like a week and make them %100
3rd step: now you have the lowest costing employees and now you can max profit
Once I have my first head hunter, I stop training employees and search for them as close to 100% (except cleaners) as I can get. I know their wages end up being higher vs employing low and training up, but getting 100% customer satisfaction ASAP maximises profits for me.

Regarding lawyers, I have 100 going in the 50 an hour office 14 hours a day Monday to Friday - yes, that is 100 lawyers per firm. On hard difficulty, all offices get over $100k a day, with Midtown getting close to $200k (around $180k I think?)

I've found success with increasing prices per district using the below multipliers, with 100% customer happiness in each district, based on the base cost of goods/services before you edit them when making a new business.

Lower Manhattan/Garment District: 115%
Hell's Kitchen/the-other-one (can't recall name right now): 120%.
Midtown: 150%

Though that being said, I always make sure my prices are the lowest per district, so the above multipliers may be reduced - maximises customers numbers thus maximises profits!

What hours per day are you doing? I've just been following the guide link that you replied on a bit ago so 10 hour shifts 5 days a week and thus 50 employees, or 10, or 4 (plus one for a cleaner) and seems to be working perfectly. I actually thought they weren't reaching max customers but was just looking through a bit ago and surprisingly they are in all office types. Even saw 52 customers one day and not sure how that can happen lol. The demands for each is around 30% in each district so sort of surprised they are doing so well. I have some rivals left, but just the minor ones, I probably have around 15-20 offices of each type scattered between districts.
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