What are good stores to open?

[RaptorSolutions]

My next goal is apparently 50 mil net worth... I don't even have 10 mil.
So putting aside demand, what stores are really profitable?
Then looking back at demand, from what I see from my gift shops and clothes shops, it seems that 30%+ demand is considered good? Or at least they are making decent money it seems. 30 capacity with 40 or so traffic and they earn 15-30k or thereabouts.
And just to confirm, you always want traffic over capacity right? Cause I see some big 75 capacity retail outlets for rent in Midtown but with abysmal traffic. But well, I want my next store to be some big moneymaker, or something.

What about offices? Do they also really look at traffic? I just have the one lawyer office, didn't touch the default working time, have them work weekends and put 8 desks for the capacity limit. It's making money, just not that much considering it's a lawyer's office. Should I be expanding the working hours? Also seems like no one comes on the weekend? Is that a thing or just a fluke?

[squib]

Offices can be money machines, but your employees will have more satisfy me demands so you have to plan accordingly and they aren't particularly cheap to set up. The Hair stylist is a cash cow if it's in demand in a neighborhood. I don't set them up for any more than the traffic allows and I only use 1 customer service person per 8 hr shift. Make sure to match hair rinse to barber chairs. Use the ? feature to make sure you add items that are allowed add ons for every business.

[ErBruns - www.allkeyshop.com]

I'll try to help as much as I can but I've been playing for like a week or so now so I don't know everything.

Yes, offices look at traffic as every other busines apart from HQ or warehouses (as they don't sell anything).

As a general rule I found that having a big business is worth the investment and you'd be able to get your money back something like a week or so.

Best businesses for me to this day are: law firm, hair stylist, tech store, jewellery. In this order.
I put offices first cause they don't require you to purchase anything if not interiors and if you hire employees that are like 50-60% in their skill, is better for your wallet as your HR staff will train them and the hourly wage won't rise much if not rise at all (100% lawyers as too expensive to have a really profitable business).

Always play with the prices of your goods because depending on the city area of a business you could ask more or less money (ie in midtown my lawyers get me almost 400/hour).

Always try to have enough furniture to reach your business customer capacity, having more than enough doesn't give you any benefit from what I've seen, so not more nor less, just enough.

To know what are the best working hours you need to keep under control the "customers over time" panel, click on "yesterday" and it will show you customers per hour, unfortunately to this day it only lets you see the last day and you can't select day by day so you'll have do this for an in game week to have the best result.
For the law firm the best hours are from 8 a.m to 7 p.m for me as out of that time span I get like 7 customers per hour.


Hopefully I was able to help, feel free to ask more questions.

[RaptorSolutions]

Looks like I'm getting a hair saloon next.
Is there an out of game wiki with all that stuff the F1 menu gives? That one is a pain for constant reference tbh. Otoh I'll need the links for easier ordering of items too...

[ErBruns - www.allkeyshop.com]

Not sure if there's an official one but there could be something on their discord. Not really sure what you meant in the last sentence though.

[RaptorSolutions]

Originally posted by ErBruns - www.allkeyshop.com:

Not sure if there's an official one but there could be something on their discord. Not really sure what you meant in the last sentence though.

The ordering part? There are several shops selling different items, so I can either go through each shop's contact one by one, or go to the help menu to see where it's sold. Which is why imo after we get HQ, just like how we get purchasing agents and logistics managers, we should also get something similar for purchasing furniture.
For the F1 wiki itself, it needs a back and front button, best if it's like normal websites, so we can also use our mouse's back and front button. A search function, though this is really only useful for searching furniture. And a bookmark system, which should be put somewhere else than on the left, that part has a lot in it. Though tbh, after using it more, it's not too bad.

[squib]

I decided to begin a new game. My goal is to have as optimized a store as possible. So far I have opened only the first gift shop and I've got it earning just under $8k daily. That's with 1 full time CS and one part time CS and 1 full time cleaner, 4 hour evening shift. 6 day weeks. I am selling everything that you can in a gift shop except cheap flowers as it's a small first shop. My toon: Aaron Redlights stands next to the register with full happiness :) I'll probably have $100K banked before I complete the second business course. I do have to micro manage it a bit as I'm still using Distro, but I'm finding it pretty fun.

[ErBruns - www.allkeyshop.com]

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

Originally posted by ErBruns - www.allkeyshop.com:

Not sure if there's an official one but there could be something on their discord. Not really sure what you meant in the last sentence though.

The ordering part? There are several shops selling different items, so I can either go through each shop's contact one by one, or go to the help menu to see where it's sold. Which is why imo after we get HQ, just like how we get purchasing agents and logistics managers, we should also get something similar for purchasing furniture.
For the F1 wiki itself, it needs a back and front button, best if it's like normal websites, so we can also use our mouse's back and front button. A search function, though this is really only useful for searching furniture. And a bookmark system, which should be put somewhere else than on the left, that part has a lot in it. Though tbh, after using it more, it's not too bad.

I mean, you do actually get it. Once you have HQ you don't need to purchase wholesale anymore. You should hire 4 purchasing agents and sign shipping contracts with the 4 import/export companies at the port.
When I say you don't need wholesale shops anymore I mean you should definitely avoid those as you pay way less by importing goods.

[RaptorSolutions]

Originally posted by ErBruns - www.allkeyshop.com:

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

The ordering part? There are several shops selling different items, so I can either go through each shop's contact one by one, or go to the help menu to see where it's sold. Which is why imo after we get HQ, just like how we get purchasing agents and logistics managers, we should also get something similar for purchasing furniture.
For the F1 wiki itself, it needs a back and front button, best if it's like normal websites, so we can also use our mouse's back and front button. A search function, though this is really only useful for searching furniture. And a bookmark system, which should be put somewhere else than on the left, that part has a lot in it. Though tbh, after using it more, it's not too bad.

I mean, you do actually get it. Once you have HQ you don't need to purchase wholesale anymore. You should hire 4 purchasing agents and sign shipping contracts with the 4 import/export companies at the port.
When I say you don't need wholesale shops anymore I mean you should definitely avoid those as you pay way less by importing goods.

What I meant is not for goods, but for furniture. Goods are easy now, furniture? That one is still a pain. So we should also have something for furniture like we have for goods.

[big_gun_]

Clothing store is good money maker for starters even after nerf. It does not cost too much to build up.

once you save up enough money, go for ELECTRONIC STORE!!!! It makes 3 times money of what clothing store does. I opened 7 electronic store in Midtown, the demand of those products still 30+%.

spend money on marketing to boost profit!! The large buildings with 10ish traffic in Mitown and Murray hill can still do well if you set up clothing and electronic store.

[RaptorSolutions]

Originally posted by big_gun_:

spend money on marketing to boost profit!! The large buildings with 10ish traffic in Mitown and Murray hill can still do well if you set up clothing and electronic store.

I already have clothing and just setup some E-stores. But this is interesting. So low traffic can still be compensated for with marketing? Was wondering what those 75 capacity stores with 10 traffic are for.

[David Estes Creations]

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

So low traffic can still be compensated for with marketing? Was wondering what those 75 capacity stores with 10 traffic are for.

Basically, take half your marketing and combine with traffic for final promotion. So even with a low 10 traffic, you can push that up to 60 total promotion with marketing

[RaptorSolutions]

Originally posted by David Estes Creations:

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

So low traffic can still be compensated for with marketing? Was wondering what those 75 capacity stores with 10 traffic are for.

Basically, take half your marketing and combine with traffic for final promotion. So even with a low 10 traffic, you can push that up to 60 total promotion with marketing

Oh. That's easy to count. That also means if you already have traffic over capacity, you don't have to bother with marketing right? Like early on you get all these 30-40 traffic buildings with 30 capacity.

[David Estes Creations]

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

That also means if you already have traffic over capacity, you don't have to bother with marketing right?

Traffic/marketing and capacity are not quite directly related like that, no.

Traffic and Marketing combine to make a percentage of how effective your promotion is. But 30 traffic doesn't mean 30 customer per hour - it's not directly tied like that.

However, it is important to note that depending on the store type, and all the other factors combined, you might already be getting all the customers there are, so more marketing might not help in those cases. Some experimentation can help find the exact amount that works for your store!

Final note - the amount of marketing you need to reach a certain percentage depends on how big the store is. Different combinations of the 6 marketing types can result in different percentages, depending on the store size.

[RaptorSolutions]

Originally posted by David Estes Creations:

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

That also means if you already have traffic over capacity, you don't have to bother with marketing right?

Traffic/marketing and capacity are not quite directly related like that, no.

Traffic and Marketing combine to make a percentage of how effective your promotion is. But 30 traffic doesn't mean 30 customer per hour - it's not directly tied like that.

However, it is important to note that depending on the store type, and all the other factors combined, you might already be getting all the customers there are, so more marketing might not help in those cases. Some experimentation can help find the exact amount that works for your store!

Final note - the amount of marketing you need to reach a certain percentage depends on how big the store is. Different combinations of the 6 marketing types can result in different percentages, depending on the store size.

Wait, then how do I tell, things? Maybe we need a daily graph, but that would be a lot of data. Actually, is there a per hour graph somewhere in there? If I open 24 hours, I can't exactly just divide by that, even if I open for shorter periods, I might have some hours in there which just don't see a lot of customers. Perhaps telling me what's the peak hour including how many customers are around during that time would be helpful.

Btw, 100% marketing is just that right? I reach 100% and I don't need to worry anymore?

I wonder if this is why my M1 sized jewelry store in Midtown isn't making anywhere near as much as my M1 Electronics store in the same area. The demand is similar across all products, and both have minimal competition. But perhaps there just isn't many people wanting to buy jewelry.

[David Estes Creations]

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

Actually, is there a per hour graph somewhere in there?

Look at the customer graph, then click "Yesterday" and you'll get that.

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

Btw, 100% marketing is just that right? I reach 100% and I don't need to worry anymore?

Whatever you set up will continue. You might not need 100% marketing. But whatever you need, yes you set it up and you're good to go!

Originally posted by RaptorSolutions:

But perhaps there just isn't many people wanting to buy jewelry.

Precisely! :D