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Jor1994 Mar 23, 2023 @ 5:46am
Lawyers suddenly losing money.
Monday i earned 6.2k with 3k in wages and 850 marketing
Tuesday and wednesday that went down to 3.6k with 2.7k wages and 850 marketing

All 3 days had 5 workstations running and i didn't change the cost.

What could be causing this? I thought maybe the wage bill had risen too high but obviously it's actually decreased.
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join.me Mar 23, 2023 @ 5:51am 
there might be a range of reasons. Start checking the satisfaction of your customers. Are they happy with the service, and price?
Check the satisfaction of your workers. They work worse than their maximum if they have it below 80%.
If so, generally it requires some time for the business to grow. Imagine, you had an open-doors day on Monday and now fewer clients. Don't worry, not every business starts with profits and growth.
Iejen Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:21am 
Have you checken MarketInsider, perhaps the need for lawyer hours just decreased. This goes up and down
petehandsome Mar 23, 2023 @ 10:44am 
open hours and marketing were killing me.
first, click on the insider and view the single day customers per hour. you'll notice they are only around during specific times.
also marketing, i don't drop more than 1k. 500 in web 500 in signage. Law firms don't bring in the big bucks.
Hartschteiler Mar 23, 2023 @ 11:16am 
Imo there is a bug that leads to the game not seeing all work-stations at capacitiy so even if you 10/10 30/30 etc. you won't get more customers even at 4x100%.

Edit: Like i have a nice lawyer-agency with 30/30 seats all maxed only getting 3-4 customers per hour at best

And going 7-17 appears to be optimal timewise.
Last edited by Hartschteiler; Mar 23, 2023 @ 11:17am
Kyle Mar 23, 2023 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Hartschteiler:
Imo there is a bug that leads to the game not seeing all work-stations at capacitiy so even if you 10/10 30/30 etc. you won't get more customers even at 4x100%.

Edit: Like i have a nice lawyer-agency with 30/30 seats all maxed only getting 3-4 customers per hour at best

And going 7-17 appears to be optimal timewise.
this is because of district demand and and marketing and etc

buying and shutting down your competitors while your indexes are max'd out should increase this number
Tanyon Mar 23, 2023 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by petehandsome:
open hours and marketing were killing me.
first, click on the insider and view the single day customers per hour. you'll notice they are only around during specific times.
also marketing, i don't drop more than 1k. 500 in web 500 in signage. Law firms don't bring in the big bucks.

What?

Hourly Lawyer Fee = $47,600
Ongoing exspenses - Marketing fee -$6,350
Other fees -$3295
Profit = 37,954

4 Desks 14 hour shifts easiest money I make.
Hartschteiler Mar 23, 2023 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by Kyle:
Originally posted by Hartschteiler:
Imo there is a bug that leads to the game not seeing all work-stations at capacitiy so even if you 10/10 30/30 etc. you won't get more customers even at 4x100%.

Edit: Like i have a nice lawyer-agency with 30/30 seats all maxed only getting 3-4 customers per hour at best

And going 7-17 appears to be optimal timewise.
this is because of district demand and and marketing and etc

buying and shutting down your competitors while your indexes are max'd out should increase this number

Its at mid-town with no competition btw *and ~80%demand . So i am really sure it's a bug. :)
**And i did manage a couple of lawyer-agencies yielding 200k+ befor. Yet after last hot-fix it appears to be broke on new saves.
Last edited by Hartschteiler; Mar 23, 2023 @ 12:10pm
RoofCat Mar 23, 2023 @ 2:07pm 
Lawyers have 30..40% customers. Depends on marketing. No need to hire 10 for a 10 men office. Hire 3, add some marketing (500..1000), make 2k a day. Start playing with pricing.
You could max promotion and get 4 at times, but I'm not sure that's optimal. The game is about making money. Not about filling something up or following some rules you put on yourself. Look at numbers, they will tell you everything you have to do.
Tanzier Mar 23, 2023 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by DarthTanyon:
Originally posted by petehandsome:
open hours and marketing were killing me.
first, click on the insider and view the single day customers per hour. you'll notice they are only around during specific times.
also marketing, i don't drop more than 1k. 500 in web 500 in signage. Law firms don't bring in the big bucks.

What?

Hourly Lawyer Fee = $47,600
Ongoing exspenses - Marketing fee -$6,350
Other fees -$3295
Profit = 37,954

4 Desks 14 hour shifts easiest money I make.

Totally, I run about 12 lawyers and it makes 80-100k on average, more when it's in high demand. Law firms make great money and they're easy... if a bit boring. But they're the gateway to getting access to some good money in the game in story mode. That finally gave me enough capital such that starting a new business was much more affordable and faster.

Then you open a large clothing store and it puts everything else to shame ...
Kyle Mar 23, 2023 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Hartschteiler:
Originally posted by Kyle:
this is because of district demand and and marketing and etc

buying and shutting down your competitors while your indexes are max'd out should increase this number

Its at mid-town with no competition btw *and ~80%demand . So i am really sure it's a bug. :)
**And i did manage a couple of lawyer-agencies yielding 200k+ befor. Yet after last hot-fix it appears to be broke on new saves.
the sudden change after an update totally could be, i didn't have an active save to test so i wont comment on that

the not meeting building capacity isn't, i said it'd increase them, not that you'd meet 100% of the capacity, capacity is just the hard limit on how many you could get and how many you get is affected by several other factors, from store type, to promotion index, to pricing index etc etc

you can directly test this by opening up and staffing more firms of your own in the district and watching your businesses customers plummet per business after a full 24 hour cycle or so

you can also try opening up a fast food place and seeing how it basically always meets capacity/has high numbers regardless of marketing, often marketing isn't even needed to meet 75 in this type; these are high capacity sale businesses where you get an unholy amount of customers, compared to say, a jewelry store that is more about quality of sales over pure quantity

so far in an office the highest i've seen in a single law firm was around 39, when they had 2 competitors in the district (three of their own firms :v), they had like 15 or so, with only 1 competitor (so 2 businesses), they had like 29 per hour
Last edited by Kyle; Mar 23, 2023 @ 9:14pm
Promethium Mar 24, 2023 @ 1:15am 
My pricing for hourly lawyer fee are at least 750/hr try to increase the price as long as the satisfaction doesn't go down.
Z4wias Jun 4, 2023 @ 8:28am 
Hello i Have problem i have late game and i have 250 lawyers 50 desk out of 50 24/7 opened and o lose 50 l a day What can i do ??
Z4wias Jun 4, 2023 @ 8:29am 
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Tanyon Jun 4, 2023 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by Z4wias:
Hello i Have problem i have late game and i have 250 lawyers 50 desk out of 50 24/7 opened and o lose 50 l a day What can i do ??

You do not need that many.. you need as many as there is demand for. it is one of the jobs where the more you have does not mean better.

I would scale it down start at like 5.. then keep adding one every other day until you find out how many you actually need. You can look at the daily breakdown and it will tell you how many clients you had that is how many lawyers you need.
Z4wias Jun 4, 2023 @ 4:36pm 
ok i figure it out first i hire lawyers with sailary over 80 $ wich was less profitable and 2 most important thing i was open 24/7 so for examle at 23:00 notbody was buying lawyers adwice bud i was paying for those 250 lawyer so i hange open hours from 7:00 to 16:00 and now im making 200 k a day
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