Casino Exploit

[Mike]

It is possible to exploit the boat casino

1. Go to slot machine
2. Save the game
3. Spin the slot
4. If lose, quit to main menu and reload, go back to step 2
5. If win, repeat from step 2

[m61a1]

Lol have the mob throw you overboard or break your fingers...that'd be funny

[Naoshi]

If u don't plan remove the casino, then the best is too make the casino less profitable.
To do that you should set a cap for the bet and like in real life once you won a certains amount; the casino will please you to leave.

Cheating on a solo game isn't a sin, but should be a command to type rather than an easy going exploit abuse.

[xNeariax]

Originally posted by ☭ Calabresa ☭:

Why though? It's a single player game, let people cheat. I'm sure if people really wanted, they could even edit the save files to get free money anyway

At a guess I'd think you can probably just use CheatEngine or a similar tool and edit the money value directly in game, no need to even mess with the save file.

Which is why I'm honestly not sure what the point of this discussion is.

If people want to cheat in the campaign/normal mode they'll do it anyway. If you don't cheat this exploit doesn't impact you because it is a singleplayer game. So what - aside from tying to police how others play - is a fix going to accomplish?

Personally, I highly agree with others here who have said the Devs time is probably better spent focusing on other issues.

[s103r]

this nation is like a joke. In a single player game, where do they find the right to interfere in someone else's game

[moozzie]

Originally posted by Magistar:

Originally posted by moozzie:

This is a good one

Does not work, just save manually before the spin and load that one.

Yeah you are right, this only works if there is one save per campaign

[Lint6]

Why do people talk about this exploit like the slot machines are the key?

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Blackjack is where its at! Bet all the money you have, and double it if you win, and reload if you lose.

I got a point where I had $24 Million, but I could only bet $2.4 million because the game wouldn't allow me to bet higher

[Hikyu]

Originally posted by jhovgaard:

Hi there,

You're right. Any suggestions on how we counter that? We couldn't come up with any smart ideas ourselves :D

ive got an idea:
what about pre determined outcome?
Save the outcome anywhere and just use that for the first like 50 rolls.
Instead of random gen at usage

[OnesGuy]

Originally posted by RoofCat:

Originally posted by dubesor:

I went to the boat when my daily profit was around 3k. I used 5k (entry) +3k for gambling = 8k to make 76.000.000 (76 million). I just played blackjack and always doubled my money. Could have made more but was getting bored. There should definitely be a stop to abuse gambling! I think the easiest way would be not to let someone on board without having achieved a point in the story where they already made a lot of money.

edit: or don't allow saving on boat, which would also help a bit.

In real casinos there is a limit on how much you are allowed to double. Minimal and maximal bet. iirc there was some "registered record" (or urban legend of that) of 10+ reds in a row. While max/min bet at particular table is like 3? RND is a b****. Sure, there may be non limit tables, but that one has other hazards. In the end they will just ban you if anything. Casinos are made to make money. Not to spend it.

I have RL seen 10 black in a row... I was looking at the lady that spins the wheel and I was like impossible!!! She agreed :P

[King Of Essex]

So i thought I would exploit the casino as you mentioned, and yes I saved every win and wrote down the sequence I found out that there is no sequence after playing it for three hours in real time the first three like black black red seemed to follow suit, them black or red was a guess well I got to 100 MILLION saved the game THEN went back in and did the maximum bet and it didn't matter which colour I chose on the first spin I lost every time, I tried !7 TIMES iether black or red, what ever colour I chose I couldn't double up,THEN I got bored and went back to my first save of 13 Million, it was a laugh trying it, but as the saying goes " THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS " And yes it was fun trying.. :0 :)

[Pur]

Originally posted by jhovgaard:

Hi there,

You're right. Any suggestions on how we counter that? We couldn't come up with any smart ideas ourselves :D

Another approach that I didn't see listed here is that you could have some casino npc's approach the player and kick them out of the casino if they win too much money in one night. This might be a bit too realistic though. In real life, if I won every hand in a casino or pulled pulled a win at the slots too consistently they would *"politely" ask me to leave for being an "advantage player". Its a casino business decision to express their right to deny service to anyone they think they might lose money on.

[Zentra]

Originally posted by jhovgaard:

Hi there,

You're right. Any suggestions on how we counter that? We couldn't come up with any smart ideas ourselves :D

Couple of ideas.
No saves while at the casino.
Limited stakes only gambling. Smaller bets, smaller payout.

[LCD]

Originally posted by jhovgaard:

Hi there,

You're right. Any suggestions on how we counter that? We couldn't come up with any smart ideas ourselves :D

lol just leave it. youre only supposed to use the casino to up your happiness anyways. it shouldn't be a main source of income. if it is. Out in Nevada we have something called a gambling tax. so all your winnings you get get taxed anyways. I would take that into consideration for gambling if its a big deal. i know you guys have new york and having them leave the city to gamble. but maybe you can re work it so its legal it's just taxed like how other states do it.

[m61a1]

Dev has said the profits do nothing toward your value so really it's a waste other than fun.

[L.Phillipson]

Originally posted by jhovgaard:

Hi there,

You're right. Any suggestions on how we counter that? We couldn't come up with any smart ideas ourselves :D

If people really want to cheat that badly, just let them cheat. I understand why you might want to counter it but at the end of the day, you can't force people to enjoy things in a specific way. Plus if you "fix" this, people will just start using external tools. Also, it's not an online game so it only impacts one player so I don't see an issue with it.

[OTAKUMON]

Hi Guys, i think the Casino should have its own money balance and cash flow, from the beginning, so start with a small quantity and while time passes it increases.

so the player can win but the casino only recover the money after the player losses, so if the player want to win all the money at the beginning, it will earn little and it will make the casino bankrupt and not be able to use it again for a cooldown while it increases the revenue again.

so, the player will understand the balance between win and lose and that both are necesary for the casino to keep floating.

the jackpot awards will increase, but anyone could win it, maybe some npc or AI could win it instead of the player and it will be shown in the news that "somerandomnpc won tja jackpot", and that reset starts the cooldown again.

other option is tha one that other user in this post said, that if the player bets just after loading the save the casino gives him all of the money (infinite) like a cheat code, so it will ruin the experience of cheating for the player.