Optional original graphics?

[Elkondo]

Is it possible to switch back to original graphics? Would be a cool feature.

[Apogee1]

Yep, it is called Crystal Caves.

[Lunick]

Originally posted by Apogee1:

Yep, it is called Crystal Caves.

I'm not quite sure this snarky reply is warranted when plenty of other modern releases of games include an option to display the old graphics but play with the modern QOL gameplay. Unless you're bundling in the original Crystal Caves, this reply makes no sense.

[Archie Buttle]

Sad to see the game still hasn't been properly aspect-ratio adjusted. The announcement trailer shows uncorrected 16:10 (1:1 PAR); actual output should be 4:3 (1:1.2 PAR). They seem to have settled with 16:11 (1:1.1 PAR) for the "early release code" shown on LGR's video.

[Elkondo]

Originally posted by Apogee1:

Yep, it is called Crystal Caves.

What kind of a snarky answer is that? Just say 'sorry, no'.
It's a legitimate question, Duke3DWT, Monkey Island, even Halo remasters let you switch graphics with a single key press. I know it takes development time to implement, but in a 2D sprite-based game where all you did was add more colours to the existing sprites, you'd think it'd be a no-brainer to implement. Hell, you could probably do that with a screen-space shader for the most part.

So how moddable is the game going to be then? There's custom levels, that's great, but maybe it would be possible for someone to just mod custom sprites in?

[StrikerTheHedgefox]

Yeah, the snark is completely unwarranted. It would be a neat idea to be able to toggle the visuals while keeping the smooth 60fps gameplay, and the various fixes.

DosBox with the original has a few things lost in translation, like the overscan borders, and Episode 3 has that game-breaking bug in the world map without my patch.

While I like the new visuals and would more than likely keep using them, the option being there would be helpful for those who haven't played the original and want to see what it looked like without the nauseatingly jittery 15fps of the original, prefer the higher contrast, or just are feeling nostalgic.

Also, I agree with Archie about the aspect ratio.

[BB Shockwave]

Given that you can play the original anytime you want via DOSBox I dunno why you'd want to switch back. If you want that, GOG has that version for sale too, I think it was like 1EUR a year or so ago. But why would you want to play it like that? You could have done that anytime since DOSBox has existed. I am enjoying the new graphics.

[Elkondo]

Originally posted by BB Shockwave:

Given that you can play the original anytime you want via DOSBox I dunno why you'd want to switch back. If you want that, GOG has that version for sale too, I think it was like 1EUR a year or so ago. But why would you want to play it like that? You could have done that anytime since DOSBox has existed. I am enjoying the new graphics.

I grew to accept them, but the softness of the colours changes the feel of the game for me. But oh well, guess it's not worth complaining about.

[RonjaLin]

It doesn't seem like you can switch to the original graphics in the HD remake.

[Archie Buttle]

Originally posted by Apogee1:

Yep, it is called Crystal Caves.

Lol, this aged well. Crystal Caves was delisted from GOG.com and is now packaged with HD for a 60% markup.

[RKade83]

Just for that snark (because I asked the same question as an accessibility option on the reveal trailer on youtube,) I'm not buying or reviewing this game.

What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ dismissive response. Seriously, what the hell. Even a "it wouldn't be worth our time to implement this feature" is better than "just play the old game lol."

https://ton.twitter.com/1.1/ton/data/dm/1316972578498519045/1316972569640136704/mwSWr5SV.jpg:large

Signal boost, if you would. https://twitter.com/BlindRyan1/status/1316973800890707971

[Mortis]

Thank you Apogee1 for the reply. However please consider at least a "Grey Man" toggle for Milo

[Retodon8]

I figure Apogee's reply up here is the same as their reply in the screenshot, and the same as my reply before in that screenshot: factual. I think up here they were trying to be humourus, not snarky. Did it succeed, was it actually funny? That is of course debatable. I could understand spending a lot of time improving something, only to have someone asking for some of the old stuff back isn't what you're hoping for, being a bit brief because of that in a response. Nobody had even brought up accessability at that point, that came up later. Some of the replies after that actually are snarky, escalating this whole thing.

A bunch of things in this remake have been improved upon the original, so I understand the wish to play it instead. My eyesight is fine, so I'm not sure why someone would like the original graphics instead, but I assume it's the higher contrast. I imagine it wouldn't be impossible to simply redraw the new sprites using the colours of the original ones and forfill the request in that way, so if enough people ask for it, maybe they would consider it? (This is a remake, built from the ground up, carefully comparing gameplay between the versions, no access to the original source code.)

[RKade83]

That is exactly the accessibility rub, in fact. The game is too muddy to be seen properly whereas the original EGA graphics, for all of their simplicity, had a vibrancy unmatched in the modern offering.

But they're being disrespectful. I get being snarky and sweary and unprofessional. The devs I speak to love my candor. But I would NEVER disrespect a dev and the same should ring true for them to their playerbase. A flip dismissal is akin to a slap in the face and, where I come from, if you disrespect a body, that body is apt to put on boots, if you take the origin of the parlance.

[Risingson]

Originally posted by Apogee1:

Yep, it is called Crystal Caves.

You meant

"Hi! We don't feature the option to go back to the original graphics. The option you have for now is to play the original, and we may put this option in the future, who knows!

Thanks for your love for the game. I really hope you enjoy the remake!"

I really cannot understand why are you in charge of PR when you are obviously not capable of this and you have created animosity against the whole Apogee and devs of this game because of your attitude.

[RKade83]

Exactly my point. No is fine. No is expected. ♥♥♥♥ you scrub lol is just disrespectful and, as you can see, Rising, whoever's in charge is acting like this all over the place too.

And, for the record, I'm still pissed about it.